General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet

[Sigran101]

- Yamato tragic backstory flashback
- Yamato owes her life to Zoro's father
- Yamato declared she wants to leave Wano for the 4th time, and this time she was 8, making it her childhood dream
- Yamato wanted to go to sea before she read Oden's journal and found out he sailed with Roger, so her dream to sail with Luffy is confirmed not to be based on that.

Meanwhile we're talking about how she's now LESS likely to join because of some unused concept art

 

[Paperchampion23]

One thing for sure is that no one is allowed to join the Strawhats and share his Sake with everyone before it becomes VERY CLEAR that Sanji is stronger than them. Robin and Franky after EL, and Jinbe after Wano...I don't see Sanji eclipsing her feats before Wano wraps up

I mean, she hasn't even hurt Kaido bruh. If Sanji firest of an AdCoC type attack at Queen and defeats him, while Yamato doesn't damage Kaido with hers and loses, then nothing actually harms the dynamic.

It also...really just doesn't matter.

 

[KenshiraSonata]

If some demented folks still believe Carrot is gonna join and Yamato isn't. I must pay a moment of silence as respect for those awesome peeps. Gambare furtards

 

[JoSeungHun7335]

I mean, she hasn't even hurt Kaido bruh. If Sanji firest of an AdCoC type attack at Queen and defeats him, while Yamato doesn't damage Kaido with hers and loses, then nothing actually harms the dynamic.

It also...really just doesn't matter.

Exactly. People seem to forget that Yamato has already stated that she can’t defeat Kaido, but she’s there to stall Kaido only until Luffy returns. I still don’t understand why people are so afraid the M3 dynamic will be broken, if their dynamic is really that strong. Or is it really that strong?

 

[Paperchampion23]

Huh. So interesting Observation here

- Luffy's 10 member crew is in the middle
- The 2 central "potential" new crewmembers are on the direct opposing ends of the poster


Maybe they really are both meant to join. This seems pretty purposeful.

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Even weirder.....Carrot literally does not belong on that side of the poster, unless there is a reason she's there.

The entire WCI crew is on the right side, including Kata, Reiju, and Pudding. All Wano characters are also on that side with BM and Kaido, with Kiku, Oden, Yamato, and Hiyori. The only exception is Izo because he's with Whitebeard.

Carrot has zero relations to the other side of the poster. Why would Oda put her there if not to parallel Yamato? I think his team 100% knows that the fanbase is vying for both to join.

 

[Queek Hea D Taker]

Huh. So interesting Observation here

- Luffy's 10 member crew is in the middle
- The 2 central "potential" new crewmembers are on the direct opposing ends of the poster


Maybe they really are both meant to join. This seems pretty purposeful.

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Even weirder.....Carrot literally does not belong on that side of the poster, unless there is a reason she's there.

The entire WCI crew is on the right side, including Kata, Reiju, and Pudding. All Wano characters are also on that side with BM and Kaido, with Kiku, Oden, Yamato, and Hiyori. The only exception is Izo because he's with Whitebeard.

Carrot has zero relations to the other side of the poster. Why would Oda put her there if not to parallel Yamato? I think his team 100% knows that the fanbase is vying for both to join.

She's with BlackBeard...

Evil Carrot incoming, BlackBeard spy.

 

[Roosta]

- The 2 central "potential" new crewmembers are on the direct opposing ends of the poster

Yamato on one side, Buggy on the other. Always has been.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Yamato on one side, Buggy on the other. Always has been.

Placements aren't perfect. Not what I'm implying lol. It's just interesting that Carrot is near nobody she's related to, good or bad, and is directly on the other side of the poster. Considering Carrot/Yamato are the 2 big candidates for the crew, and both even have very interesting placements on specific volumes of the manga, it's just another thing to add fuel to the fire.

May not mean anything, but if you are a fan of both and want both to join, this may lend some confidence

 

[Roosta]

Placements aren't perfect. Not what I'm implying lol. It's just interesting that Carrot is near nobody she's related to, good or bad, and is directly on the other side of the poster. Considering Carrot/Yamato are the 2 big candidates for the crew, and both even have very interesting placements on specific volumes of the manga, it's just another thing to add fuel to the fire.

May not mean anything, but if you are a fan of both and want both to join, this may lend some confidence

Yeah, I'm just kidding about Buggy lol. Carrot's closest relationships are with people not in the spread (Pedro, Wando, Perospero) so I'm not surprised she's "alone". I'd also say it's good that she isn't with the WCI squad, since that might make her seem like WCI was the arc with her greatest importance.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Yeah, I'm just kidding about Buggy lol. Carrot's closest relationships are with people not in the spread (Pedro, Wando, Perospero) so I'm not surprised she's "alone". I'd also say it's good that she isn't with the WCI squad, since that might make her seem like WCI was the arc with her greatest importance.

Yeah it's interesting.

Clearly Oda had to work with the popularity contest, but totally. Placing her on one side would have made it seem like she is solely relegated to to those characters and arcs. In the end that may not be true.


Tbh, I'm not one of those people that believes Carrots loss against Peros can be used against her. Chopper lost. Usopp lost. Not every character is supposed to achieve victory, it makes this a bit more realistic. At the end of the day, we will see how important it is for her to adventure. Barring any arguments about her relevancy or uniqueness, she may just end up joining with Jinbe and Yamato.

Her character motivation to want to adventure and essentially act has Pedro's living will didn't disappear, it's just not being focused on or prioritized atm. We'll see how all this goes.

 

[Roosta]

Yeah it's interesting.

Clearly Oda had to work with the popularity contest, but totally. Placing her on one side would have made it seem like she is solely relegated to to those characters and arcs. In the end that may not be true.


Tbh, I'm not one of those people that believes Carrots loss against Peros can be used against her. Chopper lost. Usopp lost. Not every character is supposed to achieve victory, it makes this a bit more realistic. At the end of the day, we will see how important it is for her to adventure. Barring any arguments about her relevancy or uniqueness, she may just end up joining with Jinbe and Yamato.

Her character motivation to want to adventure and essentially act has Pedro's living will didn't disappear, it's just not being focused on or prioritized atm. We'll see how all this goes.

I'm still holding out that she lost to Perospero because there's more of a point to him being there than just for them to get revenge.

 

[Paperchampion23]

I'm still holding out that she lost to Perospero because there's more of a point to him being there than just for them to get revenge.

I'm hoping she stops Neko (from killing Peros) and has a signficant speech. There's something good that can come from that moment tbh

 

[humanbeing]

You said:

All 3 of them may have been strong, but when the end of the arc came before they joined Oda ensured that they didn't disrupt the hierarchy in the crew. Luffy/Zoro/Sanji will always be the 3 strongest straw hats, no matter who joins.

Also you:

I greatly struggle to see any plausible way in which Sanji can become strong enough to use advanced CoC attacks and clash with a blood lusted hybrid Kaido. Her power level just has no place in the crew dynamics, so it's a really huge blow against her.

Aren't you contradicting yourself here??

Oda will make it possible Luffy will have people around him who are on the same Level sure Zoro and Sanji will always be higher than Yamato and Momo, but the Volume cover is a hint to that Zoro and Sanji on the front. Yamato and Ace are on the back. Momo will take Ace's spot.

 

[mad monk]

- Yamato tragic backstory flashback
- Yamato owes her life to Zoro's father
- Yamato declared she wants to leave Wano for the 4th time, and this time she was 8, making it her childhood dream
- Yamato wanted to go to sea before she read Oden's journal and found out he sailed with Roger, so her dream to sail with Luffy is confirmed not to be based on that.

Meanwhile we're talking about how she's now LESS likely to join because of some unused concept art

Lol There will be always deniers until it becomes official
Jinbe's deniers back on WCI is the prime example of it

 

[YonkoCommanderBepo]

I mean, she hasn't even hurt Kaido bruh. If Sanji firest of an AdCoC type attack at Queen and defeats him, while Yamato doesn't damage Kaido with hers and loses, then nothing actually harms the dynamic.

It also...really just doesn't matter.

She has advanced CoC, a power said to be wielded by the strongest. She is portrayed as being stronger than Sanji and possibly even Zoro, at least for now. Beating Queen doesn't put Sanji above her. Sanji will have to prove that he is stronger

And it actually does matter a lot. Oda doesn't change his core dynamics no matter what. Zoro and Sanji will always be strongest, Ussop and Nami will always be the weakest and any Strawhat that joins in the Grandline is put into the mid tier between them. Look at how the battles were structured in Onigashima:

Low tier battles (finished and announced together)
Mid tier battles (finished and announced together)
High tier battles

These are not simple power levels, they are part of the characters and go as far back as East blue, Oda isn't going to change them after 1000 chapters. If Yamato were to join, she would be placed into the mid tier clear below Sanji, and given that she knows advanced CoC, I don't see how it works

 

[Ravagerblade]

'People' often forget what portrayal means.
Often the haters judgements gets clouded.
Everything points to one thing, but that's not good enough for some people... I dare say you need go to touch some grass.
Get away from here. Regain the prospective lost.

 

[Roo]

If the impossible happens and Yamato doesn't join I'm definitely investing in Boa stock next.

The more Hancock the better

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Huh. So interesting Observation here

- Luffy's 10 member crew is in the middle
- The 2 central "potential" new crewmembers are on the direct opposing ends of the poster


Maybe they really are both meant to join. This seems pretty purposeful.

Post automatically merged: Sep 3, 2021

Even weirder.....Carrot literally does not belong on that side of the poster, unless there is a reason she's there.

The entire WCI crew is on the right side, including Kata, Reiju, and Pudding. All Wano characters are also on that side with BM and Kaido, with Kiku, Oden, Yamato, and Hiyori. The only exception is Izo because he's with Whitebeard.

Carrot has zero relations to the other side of the poster. Why would Oda put her there if not to parallel Yamato? I think his team 100% knows that the fanbase is vying for both to join.

Hancock’s placement is the most interesting IMO. Not trying to say she’s definitely joining, but Oda could’ve definitely drawn her doing everything but being on the center with the Straw Hats

 

[Queek Hea D Taker]

The more Hancock the better

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Hancock’s placement is the most interesting IMO. Not trying to say she’s definitely joining, but Oda could’ve definitely drawn her doing everything but being on the center with the Straw Hats

Poor Sanji, he will be a stone statue for the rest of One Piece.

 

[Sigran101]

The more Hancock the better

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Hancock’s placement is the most interesting IMO. Not trying to say she’s definitely joining, but Oda could’ve definitely drawn her doing everything but being on the center with the Straw Hats

I was thinking the same thing. I doubt it means anything but Hancock being grouped with the strawhats while Yamato and Carrot are off to the sides is hella weird.

 

[Roosta]

Hancock is together with the Shichibukai. Also, not my observation, but Hancock's heart looks like it's being held by Law, who is the captain of the Heart pirates. The more you look at the spread the more you notice stuff like this, it's fantastic.