General & Others Unpopular Opinions?

I don't care if its in g4 or not, what I know is that Luffy with his fist broke doflamingo's 16 assassin's bullets covered in haki which is one of Doflamingo's strongest attacks if not the strongest while Zoro couldn't do anything to the birdcage which wasn't covered with haki.

Don't give this crap about Zoro's strong haki, come to me when he defeats someone other than fodders.

This new arguments to put Zoro over Luffy by any means must be driving Zoro fans to craze.

Just admit it, Zoro is trash. Even Sanji had a better feat so far when he blitzed Oven while Zoro fainted over a small injury compared to what Luffy managed to take and remain conscious in Alabasta.
Zoro never tried to cut the birdcage. Are you saying an admiral couldn’t cut it either ? Zoro unlocked haki before luffy and isn’t even the main character but is stronger. You’re talking about Sanji so I know your a troll. Cut your noise
 
G4 covers his trash coa with added force. His coa breaks to hody without g4.
When he uses G4 he spread his total haki throughouthis whole body yet still manages to forcefully breaks things with his fist.

Imagine what he could've done if he took all the haki needed to make G4 and put all of it to his fist or part of his body.

Again, you Zoro fans bringing stupid arguments and think you're onto something but in reality everything you guys say make no sense.
 

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When he uses G4 he spread his total haki throughouthis whole body yet still manages to forcefully breaks things with his fist.

Imagine what he could've done if he took all the haki needed to make G4 and put all of it to his fist or part of his body.

Again, you Zoro fans bringing stupid arguments and think you're onto something but in reality everything you guys say make no sense.
No you illiterate. He has one volume of coa.
His coa isnt stronger in g4. He just covers it with more force.
 
Zoro never tried to cut the birdcage. Are you saying an admiral couldn’t cut it either ? Zoro unlocked haki before luffy and isn’t even the main character but is stronger. You’re talking about Sanji so I know your a troll. Cut your noise
You telling me he can cut the birdcage but wouldn't do it. Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
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No you illiterate. He has one volume of coa.
His coa isnt stronger in g4. He just covers it with more force.
Read what I wrote again before you reply. Thats one of the basics for running an argument you illiterate.
 
You telling me he can cut the birdcage but wouldn't do it. Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
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Read what I wrote again before you reply. Thats one of the basics for running an argument you illiterate.
Why wouldn’t the admiral cut it then? Civilian lives were in danger. And from the start zoro never tried to
Cut it always was trying to push it. Argue against if if you want
 
cutting will not help lol
the cage is to big
zoro and others tried to buy time for luffy
Well, the time he spent trying to push the cage to stop was enough for him with his so called "stronger than Luffy's" haki to break enough strings for people to come of the cage.

Luffy managed with his fist to break 16 sets of strings infused with haki shot in a high speed like bullet, surely a mere string without haki wouldn't be a problem for Zoro.
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He was obviously pushing it back. Even if zoro managed to cut it. the birdcage would’ve reformed again. Pushing it back was the smarter choice
You got no proof of that. The bigger chance that it would have broken the rest of the strings not reforming again.
 
Luffys coa hardening is trash. Dont get it mixed up because he adds force with g4. His hardening is way worse than zoros thats a fact.
you have no proof....stop it...
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You and sentinel did nothing but offer your opinions. You debunked nothing
so yours and his is mere opinion afterall...atleast our opinion backed by logic not wank
 
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Shiryu is as dangerous as a top tier.

I don't know if he literally is top tier as of now, but I think at the bare minimum he is as dangerous as one. Before he ate his DF he should have already been YC1. He was on par with Magellan, who was so strong that Jinbe, Ivankov, and Crocodile were all running away from him. Magellan is arguably even above YC1(IK he had bad feats up against Luffy but Oda's power levels aren't exactly that consistent).

But with his DF, he now has the ability to 1 shot almost any YC with the exception of maybe katakuri. Could haki detect an invisible man? Possibly, but haki has to be activated for it to be used. true 1v1s are frankly quite rare in the grand scheme of things. While in a 1v1, a YC might be able to put up a good fight against Shiryu(albeit I think he could beat most YCs even in a 1v1), Shiryu can assassinate almost all of the YCs.

He could just activate his invisibility, sneak into totland, and literally murder all of the veterans and 2/3rds of the SCs and probably not even get caught. Swords are deadly, when given a free shot, Killer was able to 1 shot Zoro. With his DF, Shiryu can easily get a free shot on someone who either isn't using CoO or doesn't have good CoO.

and even if CoO does counter invisibility. His powers make it to where anyone who fights him needs to use CoO constantly otherwise they're getting cut. Many characters don't have the CoO stamina or mastery to use it that much and will easily fall to shiryu 's blade.
 
OT: Golem Pica is too slow even to defeat randons, he won't be defeating any mid tier with that
There two sides to a fight. How many people can beat him a full power. I can't see Vergo, page one, or even oven beating him.

Don't forget all the way he can manipulate stone. You can trap is opponents in the stone prison then attack them from all directions simultaneously.
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Well, the time he spent trying to push the cage to stop was enough for him with his so called "stronger than Luffy's" haki to break enough strings for people to come of the cage.

Luffy managed with his fist to break 16 sets of strings infused with haki shot in a high speed like bullet, surely a mere string without haki wouldn't be a problem for Zoro.
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You got no proof of that. The bigger chance that it would have broken the rest of the strings not reforming again.
That's why the whole birdcage situation was complete BS. They are in a life and death situation and Zoro, who's a swordsman and fighting style revolves around cutting, never once tried to cut the birdcage. Seriously, how much sense does that make.

Keep it real. If Zoro couldn't have cut the birdcage he would have tried because nothing would have changed. That makes it clear he could have cut it.
 
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Who the fuck are you?
When was it debunked.
Luffys haki couldnt withstand the force of a bite. Thats even less than the bird cage that crushed buildings let alone the golem.
wrong comparison and out of context as usual...
okay by your logic, Luffy could cut strings while Zoro couldn't cut birdcage which are made up of strings (now don't come with he didn't try, because that won't hold any weight to the argument other than brain dead headcanon) or Zoro didn't master CoA properly as he can't use to protect from Hawkins nails or Kamazou piercing....

what do you mean by his haki withstood mountain bursting force??...:suresure::suresure:....do you even know what you are talking??...don't use that shitshio retarded logic...he just didn't shot haki at Pica...he put force+swordsman skill+haki in his attack....and it is a double standard and hypocritical of you to say that G4 is of haki+df while Zoro attack is just haki?...is he shooting haki beams now??...

Yes, Luffy haki didn't withstood "bite" but you don't have proof that Zoro haki can withstand "bite" as he didn't use it against Hawkins or Kamazou...also, later Luffy haki could withstand Cracker piercing in base form.....your statement holds right only when Zoro haki can withstand any of the above scenarios

Since that didn't happen, it didn't hold any weight...
 
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