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Spoiler One Piece Chapter 969 Spoilers Discussion
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So this amazing barrier fruit can stop an angry Oden, the same one who clashed against Prime WB and took a named attack from Roger like nothing.
But yet It was useless against a huge giant monster like Golem Pica (Barto words).
Damm I thought Pica was just YC3, it turned that He is at least YC1 in his Golem form :
But yet It was useless against a huge giant monster like Golem Pica (Barto words).
Damm I thought Pica was just YC3, it turned that He is at least YC1 in his Golem form :
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No. Bege's fruit is bege's fruit. His fruit makes his body the castle itself. Thats all. There nothing about the barrier fruit beig explained as something that turns the person's body into a barrier.
You are extrapolating things with no reason. Not every devil fruit literally works the same way. And haki works ONLY ONE WAY. It hurts a devil fruit user's real body. It doesn't turn off DF powers or nullify them or magically transfer power through them
For example if your explanation is correct then Attacking Doffy's bird cage with haki would have somehow magically transfered the damage to Doffy himself somehow which is not the case at all since thats not how Doffy's power works. That's even the same as saying destroying Doffy's black knight with haki would also magically transfer the damage to Doffy which we clearly saw isn't true
You are extrapolating things with no reason. Not every devil fruit literally works the same way. And haki works ONLY ONE WAY. It hurts a devil fruit user's real body. It doesn't turn off DF powers or nullify them or magically transfer power through them
For example if your explanation is correct then Attacking Doffy's bird cage with haki would have somehow magically transfered the damage to Doffy himself somehow which is not the case at all since thats not how Doffy's power works. That's even the same as saying destroying Doffy's black knight with haki would also magically transfer the damage to Doffy which we clearly saw isn't true
haki does not do what you think it does.
Bege transforms his body into the castle. the castle is him. damage to the castle is damage to Bege.
if you hit Mr. 3s wax with haki then Mr. 3 would remain just fine. its not an extension of himself. he creates wax.
logia can turn into an element. and you can touch them with haki even if they do. it would still not hurt a logia if you punched the element they created.
creating != turning into
Bari Bari creates a barrier. the user itself is not the barrier.
you can hammer away with haki at it and still not get through and the user could not care less if you did. its the perfect defense.
Bege transforms his body into the castle. the castle is him. damage to the castle is damage to Bege.
if you hit Mr. 3s wax with haki then Mr. 3 would remain just fine. its not an extension of himself. he creates wax.
logia can turn into an element. and you can touch them with haki even if they do. it would still not hurt a logia if you punched the element they created.
creating != turning into
Bari Bari creates a barrier. the user itself is not the barrier.
you can hammer away with haki at it and still not get through and the user could not care less if you did. its the perfect defense.
Those "low diffed" tags you guys hand out every time you somehow are disappointed in a character are ridiculous.
He was caught by surprised and couldn't overcome a DF, that nobody else has overcome so far. No big deal.
WB couldn't break the marineford walls, Mihawk couldn't get past Vista, Akainu couldn't kill Luffy when he was only inches away from him several times etc.
Stuff like that happens.
He was caught by surprised and couldn't overcome a DF, that nobody else has overcome so far. No big deal.
WB couldn't break the marineford walls, Mihawk couldn't get past Vista, Akainu couldn't kill Luffy when he was only inches away from him several times etc.
Stuff like that happens.
So what? Broken abilities get beaten all the time.
Like I said you could cut the castle in half and have it fall down to force the old guy to break his balance or you know, you can wait them out.
There's no broken ability that can't be out done in some way since the broken ability is attached to a real person. Law's fruit is broken but it's attached to Law who has low stamina so the ability isn't dangerous. Sugar is the most broken person in the verse but she s also a little kid so you can just bear her up and that's it.
This old man isnt a juggernaut who can last days or whatver
Like I said you could cut the castle in half and have it fall down to force the old guy to break his balance or you know, you can wait them out.
There's no broken ability that can't be out done in some way since the broken ability is attached to a real person. Law's fruit is broken but it's attached to Law who has low stamina so the ability isn't dangerous. Sugar is the most broken person in the verse but she s also a little kid so you can just bear her up and that's it.
This old man isnt a juggernaut who can last days or whatver
Dude, step back, take a deep breath, scratch your nuts a little and then start looking at things in a rational way.
We know jackshit about the chapter. We have a few pics and a very bad translation of other parts. We literally have zero idea what happened after Oden got stopped.
Wait for the chapter and then draw a conclusion.
We know jackshit about the chapter. We have a few pics and a very bad translation of other parts. We literally have zero idea what happened after Oden got stopped.
Wait for the chapter and then draw a conclusion.
Oden could have :
-> destroyed the floor, making the barrier guy fall and defeated Orochi
-> Calling a retainer, or any soldier really to fight barrier guy while he defeat Orochi
-> Used Conqueror Haki, and Defeat Orochi
-> Make the ceiling falls on them, and defeat Orochi
-> Get out of the building and smoking the castle, an when the rat get out of his hole, defeat Orochi
-> destroyed the floor, making the barrier guy fall and defeated Orochi
-> Calling a retainer, or any soldier really to fight barrier guy while he defeat Orochi
-> Used Conqueror Haki, and Defeat Orochi
-> Make the ceiling falls on them, and defeat Orochi
-> Get out of the building and smoking the castle, an when the rat get out of his hole, defeat Orochi
Well the plot demanded that Oden couldn't do anything and that's all there is to that. So its still fuckin dumb. There are ways to end all these things but plot says otherwise and that's all. So as far as the plot says, Oden not only FAILED to beat Orochi, it was a one sided defeat completely and so He got LOW DIFFED.
Akainu tore through a number of guys and then failed to catch Luffy. Mihawk chose to do other things and left the fight with vista. None of these situations that end with Akainu or mihawk GETTING ONE SIDEDLY DEMOLISHED so once again it's Oden who gets Low diffed and no one else
Akainu tore through a number of guys and then failed to catch Luffy. Mihawk chose to do other things and left the fight with vista. None of these situations that end with Akainu or mihawk GETTING ONE SIDEDLY DEMOLISHED so once again it's Oden who gets Low diffed and no one else
As I said, just because we can think of a solution(waiting it out and cutting from below) it doesnt mean Oda will make the character do that when he needs from him to do the exact opposite - to fail at killing Orochi.
Which broken ability has been beaten? Has Kuma's repel ever failed? Has Barto's barrier ever failed? They havent.
That is why such broken abilities are not given to major obstacles that MCs have to defeat but instead it is given to a rookie who fanboys Luffy more than his entire fandom.
To give Oden more credit, you do realize that everyone would fail against the Barrier itself? Nobody can go through it. Not Oden, not Luffy, not Zoro, not Mihawk, not Kaido... Nobody. That is the purpose of the barrier fruit - indestructibility. Of course, there are ways to defeat the user of such fruit but there is no way to break the barrier since that is its core purpose.
Which broken ability has been beaten? Has Kuma's repel ever failed? Has Barto's barrier ever failed? They havent.
That is why such broken abilities are not given to major obstacles that MCs have to defeat but instead it is given to a rookie who fanboys Luffy more than his entire fandom.
To give Oden more credit, you do realize that everyone would fail against the Barrier itself? Nobody can go through it. Not Oden, not Luffy, not Zoro, not Mihawk, not Kaido... Nobody. That is the purpose of the barrier fruit - indestructibility. Of course, there are ways to defeat the user of such fruit but there is no way to break the barrier since that is its core purpose.
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