Spoiler One Piece Chapter 969 Spoilers Discussion
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Called weakest Admiral by the fandom. * Not a canon manga material.
How can he launch Orochi in the space when the plot demands fail in that instance? You cannot beat plot.
Not just Admirals, even the Yonko, anybody you can think of is helpless against the barrier when it comes to destroying it or there is no sense to it if it can be destroyed.
Barrier has no defense by itself, advanced CoA will do nothing to it. It is broken ability, why are you trying to beat it with logic?
All the broken abilities have a thing in common, they arent a threat to the MC and get taken out by silly things.
No matter who goes after Orochi in that instance, plot demands them to fail, whether it is Oden, Admiral or a Yonko.
How can he launch Orochi in the space when the plot demands fail in that instance? You cannot beat plot.
Not just Admirals, even the Yonko, anybody you can think of is helpless against the barrier when it comes to destroying it or there is no sense to it if it can be destroyed.
Barrier has no defense by itself, advanced CoA will do nothing to it. It is broken ability, why are you trying to beat it with logic?
All the broken abilities have a thing in common, they arent a threat to the MC and get taken out by silly things.
No matter who goes after Orochi in that instance, plot demands them to fail, whether it is Oden, Admiral or a Yonko.
This is impossible; it's like you are arguing against any kind of sanity, dude.
I'm not shitting on Doflamingo, he's simply far weaker than Oden, whether you like it or not.
Okay, so he immobilized Jozu with his parasite? Katakuri immobilized Bound Man with his mochi but as soon as Katakuri tried to block any kind of attack, he was sent flying like a little bitch. Result: Bound Man is FAR stronger than Katakuri physically.
Hence restraining Jozu is easier than matching his raw strength head on. Nothing suggest that Mingo is above YC2 guys.
Meanwhile, Queen cracked the skull of a character whose durability is massively weaker than Kaido's one (e. g. look at @Bogard's post).
DD is old news, he won't deal serious shit against the likes of Queen. Or do you think he can win against Vista who stopped and impressed Mihawk?
You're acting like these aforementioned characters can even put a scratch on Kaido. Overwanking Oden's feat? My ass, dude, you're probably eating too many crayons...
Kaido wasn't damaged at all by a barrage of Kong Guns - that's the guy who utterly embarassed Katakuri and Doflamingo whenever they clashed on CQC, let that sink in.
At this point, even a 5 yo child has a better understanding of plot development and reading comprehension than you if you think Oden's failing to break that barrier makes him look weaker than he is.
I'm not shitting on Doflamingo, he's simply far weaker than Oden, whether you like it or not.
Okay, so he immobilized Jozu with his parasite? Katakuri immobilized Bound Man with his mochi but as soon as Katakuri tried to block any kind of attack, he was sent flying like a little bitch. Result: Bound Man is FAR stronger than Katakuri physically.
Hence restraining Jozu is easier than matching his raw strength head on. Nothing suggest that Mingo is above YC2 guys.
Meanwhile, Queen cracked the skull of a character whose durability is massively weaker than Kaido's one (e. g. look at @Bogard's post).
DD is old news, he won't deal serious shit against the likes of Queen. Or do you think he can win against Vista who stopped and impressed Mihawk?
You're acting like these aforementioned characters can even put a scratch on Kaido. Overwanking Oden's feat? My ass, dude, you're probably eating too many crayons...
Kaido wasn't damaged at all by a barrage of Kong Guns - that's the guy who utterly embarassed Katakuri and Doflamingo whenever they clashed on CQC, let that sink in.
At this point, even a 5 yo child has a better understanding of plot development and reading comprehension than you if you think Oden's failing to break that barrier makes him look weaker than he is.
In a Bubble of Barrier, Orochi is protected against anybody.
Yes.
But, in this case , this is no Bubble, it's half a Bubble and Floor is onlony wood.
Until last chapter I thought that Oden was more or less at Admirals level.
But thing is, a lot of people would have been far more efficient than Oden in such a Situation. ( Oda would have find another Plot way of protecting Orochi but that's not what I'm talking about. )
->>>> Harudjin would have shaken the half Buble until Orochi die inside.
->>>> With Akainu, the castle would be in fire anyway and Lava would met the floor fast
->>>> Caesar just take out Oxygen and wait patiently
->>>> Kuzan freeze everything making the temperature unbearable.
Yes.
But, in this case , this is no Bubble, it's half a Bubble and Floor is onlony wood.
Until last chapter I thought that Oden was more or less at Admirals level.
But thing is, a lot of people would have been far more efficient than Oden in such a Situation. ( Oda would have find another Plot way of protecting Orochi but that's not what I'm talking about. )
->>>> Harudjin would have shaken the half Buble until Orochi die inside.
->>>> With Akainu, the castle would be in fire anyway and Lava would met the floor fast
->>>> Caesar just take out Oxygen and wait patiently
->>>> Kuzan freeze everything making the temperature unbearable.
Can you stick to one thing please. Like you keep saying nothing can be done as in literally nothing can be done in any instance whatsoever and then I present you with a scenario of Fujitora and then you ignore whay I say and say PLOT.... The fuck dude, is it plot or literally nothing can possibly ever happen in any scenario conceivable by man? Pick one. Because one is lazy writing and the other just proves Oden is not Admiral level
Also Advanced armament is literally defined as something that ignores defense. Is the barrier not a type of defense? Luffy blew up a tree from behind by ignoring it's front defence. What's stopping rayleigh from just blowing up that old man with advanced armament while ignoring the defence of the barrier. Geez this is literally Luffy’s entire plan to beat Kaido and you are saying it just can't work on this old man?
Also Advanced armament is literally defined as something that ignores defense. Is the barrier not a type of defense? Luffy blew up a tree from behind by ignoring it's front defence. What's stopping rayleigh from just blowing up that old man with advanced armament while ignoring the defence of the barrier. Geez this is literally Luffy’s entire plan to beat Kaido and you are saying it just can't work on this old man?
People stopped realizing that for plot purpose dumb things have to happen...
The sole purpose of the Barrier is that nothing can bypass it, to keep the user safe. It isnt a coincidence that it was given to Bartolomeo.
It can protect from literally everything otherwise, what is the purpose of magic barrier ability?
I said theoretically a bubble. What has this chapter changed abt Oden's power level? Magical barrier doesnt affect Oden's PL.
I am sticking to the claim that nothing can break the barrier itself, not even sending it into space like you said and I said the user can be beaten, sending it into space could theoretically work and be one of the examples how you defeat a Barrier ningen.
For plot purposes, Fujitora wouldnt be able to send Orochi flying into space because Orochi needs to survive so we can have the current timeline 25 years later. Plot induced stupidy would kick in if necessary, just to protect Orochi.
Advanced CoA is bypassing natural defenses but Barrier is a magical thing with a sole purpose, to shield and it does shield, from everything. Kaido's scales=/=magical barrier. Why is it hard to accept that it is stupid ability that makes no sense and move on without it affecting Oden's power lvl?
The sole purpose of the Barrier is that nothing can bypass it, to keep the user safe. It isnt a coincidence that it was given to Bartolomeo.
It can protect from literally everything otherwise, what is the purpose of magic barrier ability?
I said theoretically a bubble. What has this chapter changed abt Oden's power level? Magical barrier doesnt affect Oden's PL.
I am sticking to the claim that nothing can break the barrier itself, not even sending it into space like you said and I said the user can be beaten, sending it into space could theoretically work and be one of the examples how you defeat a Barrier ningen.
For plot purposes, Fujitora wouldnt be able to send Orochi flying into space because Orochi needs to survive so we can have the current timeline 25 years later. Plot induced stupidy would kick in if necessary, just to protect Orochi.
Advanced CoA is bypassing natural defenses but Barrier is a magical thing with a sole purpose, to shield and it does shield, from everything. Kaido's scales=/=magical barrier. Why is it hard to accept that it is stupid ability that makes no sense and move on without it affecting Oden's power lvl?
oden wanted to cut orochi but he got blocked by a barrier
similar with mihawk when he wanted to cut luffy but got blocked by daz bones but then mihawk cuts daz bones with ez
but idk if oden tries to cut the barrier waiting for more panels
similar with mihawk when he wanted to cut luffy but got blocked by daz bones but then mihawk cuts daz bones with ez
but idk if oden tries to cut the barrier waiting for more panels
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