Powers & Abilities How deos Haki storage work? Are you boosting Enma or are you downplaying it? Is Enma a power up or a nerf?

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That would be through Zoro own efforts not something you credit to Enma, the ones improving his stamina getting stronger by using a haki draining sword deserves all the cred. Which is why Tenguyama was actually hyping the wielders of Enma more than the sword itself during it's intro Zoro powered himself up to be able to se Enma not the other way around because as i have shown you once fully mastered it's basically just another Shusui
of course bro, everybody always go with the effort, except Sanji's exo and RS maybe lmao, but Luffy, Kidd, and Law always did.

Just consider Zoro's sword as a DF and Enma like an awakening or advanced haki etc, both are tools, both need to be mastered, and both sucked its owner stamina.. if you dont get used to it then you are fucked up (like Luffy when he was drained out by his own G4 and advanced haki)
 
and when did he cut down Kaido without Enma? he always use Enma against Kaido.
Zoro has always been 3 sword style user his best attacks are his santoryu moves, you are talking as if he invented that style against Kaido
you realize Enma was Shusui replacement right what the hell were you expecting :tchpepe:
 
Zoro has always been 3 sword style user his best attacks are his santoryu moves, you are talking as if he invented that style against Kaido
you realize Enma was Shusui replacement right what the hell were you expecting :tchpepe:
ofcourse he always use 3 sword syle, but Kaido never get any significant damage except for asura that unleased more of his CoC potential :okay:
and look again, your friend literally said Zoro is able to cut Kaido without Enma, which he never done it without using Enma
 
And it did make him stronger but not the way you think.
He is stronger when Enma's gimmick works aka Hiryu Kaen and Tatsumaki.
Other than that, Enma has never affected Zoro and changed nothing about him.

When he talks about unleashing Enma, he wasnt even applying Hardening lol.
I dont know how obvious it is that Zoro's firepower is miles above Scabbards who can cut Kaido without Enma but somehow you keep missing that. Enma literally doesnt affect any stat from Zoro aside from firepower and even that is only when it gathers a haki cloud
Mate, I never claimed Zoro has gotten stronger in all stats, I specifically talked about AP. Enma’s PU is not just for few said attacks, but all kinds as long as CoA is used. As far as we know. Zoro would still cut Kaido like the scabbards even without Enma. However, with this blade his AP is stronger than it used to be. In the end you can’t say prior to Enma Zoro is still as strong as he is now. That’s the point of a PU for a fighter to be stronger no matter what stat it affects whether it’s all or one stat.
 
ofcourse he always use 3 sword syle, but Kaido never get any significant damage except for asura that unleased more of his CoC potential :okay:
and look again, your friend literally said Zoro is able to cut Kaido without Enma, which he never done it without using Enma
Zoro best moves incorporate his 3 swordstyl, against a yonko i see no reason why Zoro would be relying on 2 swords just to prove he can hurt Kaido.
 

nik87

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it is, he can cut more than it should be, but the drawbacks is a draining his stamina/haki, just like awakening, Gear 4 or something like that.

and when did he cut down Kaido without Enma? he always use Enma against Kaido.
He can but he never did. HK missed, he could do what Tatsumaki did without Enma did as well so Enma benefit so far is 0.
He cut Kaido even with Oni Giri which is when he didnt release any haki aka no Enma benefit whatsoever.
Mate, I never claimed Zoro has gotten stronger in all stats, I specifically talked about AP. Enma’s PU is not just for few said attacks, but all kinds as long as CoA is used. As far as we know. Zoro would still cut Kaido like the scabbards even without Enma. However, with this blade his AP is stronger than it used to be. In the end you can’t say prior to Enma Zoro is still as strong as he is now. That’s the point of a PU for a fighter to be stronger no matter what stat it affects whether it’s all or one stat.
I am talking about AP too and Enma benefit came in twice - Hiryu Kaen which missed and Tatsumaki, which he could have done without Enma as well. No, Enma doesnt automatically boost him at all if he uses CoA, only when Enma gathers a haki cloud.
He just used hakified Oni Giri on King and there was no boost from Enma.

What you want to say is this - his AP CAN BE stronger while it isnt by default.
I can say that he is just as strong because Zoro is a character who didnt lack AP before Enma, he was mincing mountains.
Everything else is the same, little AP difference which occurs only sometimes didnt make Zoro stronger...
The point of PU is for the fighter to be able to do something that he wasnt able to do before and Enma sadly doesnt bring anything new.
 
Zoro best moves incorporate his 3 swordstyl, against a yonko i see no reason why Zoro would be relying on 2 swords just to prove he can hurt Kaido.
without Enma, he cant give any significant damage to Kaido (except if he use asura)

He can but he never did. HK missed, he could do what Tatsumaki did without Enma did as well so Enma benefit so far is 0.
He cut Kaido even with Oni Giri which is when he didnt release any haki aka no Enma benefit whatsoever.

0 benefit? lmao Kaido literally said the stinging sensation came from Enma, never came from any of Wado or Sandai.
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Maybe Oda should feed Kaido df to Enma that would make both of you happy :cheers: @mugiwalaw @BOCCHI
dont make yourself look stupid, if you dont agree then counter it with another logical argument just like an adult.
 
Bro you just posted the perfect panel disproving this, Kaido is cut and coughing up blood you also ignored how Big mom and Killer acknowledges the damage Zoro inflicted:milaugh:
If only BM and Killer were on the rooftop when the scabbards were fighting Kaido they would have seen Kaido cut over and over. BM and Killer noted how Zoro was able to cut Kaido and that’s it.
 
It really isn't just your head canon and bias against Zoro, but it would be with a df since you guys are absolutely desperate to make it so special :kata:
Huh! I like Zoro enough. However, that doesn’t mean I’ll ignore when a PU is shown. And there’s no shame in admitting that he has gotten stronger just for oni island raid. For you guys whenever someone acknowledge Zoro has gotten stronger through said PU no matter what stat has risen it translate in your head as Zoro hater :kayneshrug:
 
If only BM and Killer were on the rooftop when the scabbards were fighting Kaido they would have seen Kaido cut over and over. BM and Killer noted how Zoro was able to cut Kaido and that’s it.
Trying to use the scabbards to downplay the feat lmao is it really that painful Big mom and Killer acknowledge Zoro that you are talking about what if scenarios:yasu:
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Huh! I like Zoro enough. However, that doesn’t mean I’ll ignore when a PU is shown. And there’s no shame in admitting that he has gotten stronger just for oni island raid. For you guys whenever someone acknowledge Zoro has gotten stronger through said PU no matter what stat has risen it translate in your head as Zoro hater :kayneshrug:

Zoro grew stronger due to his own efforts sorry Enma will never work like a df or the magical sword version of it you have in mind:catsure:
 
He did notice the sword that gave him his only ever scar used by Oden how is surprising :bignews:
We saw the damage big mom and killer comment on it as well i think that is more than enough as proof it was a significant damage Zoo dealt Kaido :catrude:
lmao base ryou Luffy (G4 too) also makes this bunch commented and some of them including Big Mom speechless and thats not even really impressive :suresure:
try more.
 
Trying to use the scabbards to downplay the feat lmao is it really that painful Big mom and Killer acknowledge Zoro that you are talking about what if scenarios:yasu:
I’m not saying they didn’t acknowledge the feat lol. And downplay that feat? It was good, but was done over and over that’s it. That doesn’t change that even BM acknowledged that there’s an aura/feeling different in enma and mind you she never met Oden or fought him.
 
I’m not saying they didn’t acknowledge the feat lol. And downplay that feat? It was good, but was done over and over that’s it. That doesn’t change that even BM acknowledged that there’s an aura/feeling different in enma and mind you she never met Oden or fought him.
Right but you guys treated big mom reaction as gospel during this panel when undermining Zoro with Enma, who is the one performing the attack using his own haki but somehow when the same yonko acknowledges him it's less impressive as the scabbards could also do the same lmao the double standards

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lmao base ryou Luffy (G4 too) also makes this bunch commented and some of them including Big Mom speechless and thats not even really impressive :suresure:
try more.
I don't see Big mom screaming her lungs out to dodge any of those attacks:milaugh:
 
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