Powers & Abilities How deos Haki storage work? Are you boosting Enma or are you downplaying it? Is Enma a power up or a nerf?
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I wasnt aware that the reason for his greatest feats, blocking and tanking Hakai was all because of Enma.
Or that his god mode is also thanks to Enma. Or the reason for best evasive feat from pre-TS was because of Enma.
Enma too stronk.
Or that his god mode is also thanks to Enma. Or the reason for best evasive feat from pre-TS was because of Enma.
Enma too stronk.
I dont even think Oda knows how Enma works.
What it was initially described to be has changed and it contradicts what se characters say about it.
I'm not a fan of Oda keeping things vague to allow him se wiggle room.
As far as I know it's a bullshit magical sword that's a power up l Iike every other strawhat that got one this arc.
What it was initially described to be has changed and it contradicts what se characters say about it.
I'm not a fan of Oda keeping things vague to allow him se wiggle room.
As far as I know it's a bullshit magical sword that's a power up l Iike every other strawhat that got one this arc.
I wasnt aware that the reason for his greatest feats, blocking and tanking Hakai was all because of Enma.
Or that his god mode is also thanks to Enma. Or the reason for best evasive feat from pre-TS was because of Enma.
Enma too stronk.
Or that his god mode is also thanks to Enma. Or the reason for best evasive feat from pre-TS was because of Enma.
Enma too stronk.
I am sure you did want to write that but you got it right, Zoro before Enma is stronger than Zoro after Enma.
Accidentally you got it right.
Also, he didnt show greater strength. All he has shown, he was already capable of and it is unaffected by Enma.
I was always aware that Anti-Zolo Pirates dont know that Zoro's greatest feats have nothing to do with Enma. :cheers:
Accidentally you got it right.
Also, he didnt show greater strength. All he has shown, he was already capable of and it is unaffected by Enma.
damn i wasnt aware that you really trying to pull unecesary and unrelated things to counter the argument lmao
I am sure you did want to write that but you got it right, Zoro before Enma is stronger than Zoro after Enma.
Accidentally you got it right.
Also, he didnt show greater strength. All he has shown, he was already capable of and it is unaffected by Enma.
I was always aware that Anti-Zolo Pirates dont know that Zoro's greatest feats have nothing to do with Enma. :cheers:
Accidentally you got it right.
Also, he didnt show greater strength. All he has shown, he was already capable of and it is unaffected by Enma.
I was always aware that Anti-Zolo Pirates dont know that Zoro's greatest feats have nothing to do with Enma. :cheers:
for him to tank hakai or using asura is nothing to do with enma, but his AP is, since enma sucked and unleased more of his haki and you cant deny that. stronger doesnt mean in every state, just like Nami with Zeus, its never gonna make her stronger to tanked any attack, but her AP does stronger because of Zeus.
am sure you did want to write that but you got it right, Zoro before Enma is stronger than Zoro after Enma.
Accidentally you got it right.
Also, he didnt show greater strength. All he has shown, he was already c
Accidentally you got it right.
Also, he didnt show greater strength. All he has shown, he was already c
Yes they are. However growing up , heading to the gym and training aren't. That's what we call natural progression. What you benefit as a result of it is a powerup.
Example going to the gym isn't a powerup since going their doesn't increase my stats UNLESS I PUT IN THE TRAINING. Therefore it classify as a training tool. However upon what I benefit from it is am increase via natural progression.
Example going to the gym isn't a powerup since going their doesn't increase my stats UNLESS I PUT IN THE TRAINING. Therefore it classify as a training tool. However upon what I benefit from it is am increase via natural progression.
Zoro was chopping up town sized golem in Dressrosa without going all out without Enma his AP has always been ridiculous. It has increased even further in Wano because of his training not Enma that sword sucking out your haki and releasing it at once is a nerf actually one needs to overcome and not a PU.
That seem to be exactly what happened since Zoro came down from the roof we see none of that crap when facing King. Enma will only be able to take as much haki as Zoro channels through it so how is it better than Shusui exactly when fully mastered.
That seem to be exactly what happened since Zoro came down from the roof we see none of that crap when facing King. Enma will only be able to take as much haki as Zoro channels through it so how is it better than Shusui exactly when fully mastered.
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Can you explain yourself better?
How Enma's power changed from when we first met it by now?
How Enma is a power up if we didn't saw Zoro doing anything he couldn't before?
It unleashe more haki than it needed. It can't unleash more haki than Zoro have. That's why he almost lost his own arm on first usage.
Is not a benefit it is essentially a nerf.
How Enma's power changed from when we first met it by now?
How Enma is a power up if we didn't saw Zoro doing anything he couldn't before?
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It unleashe more haki than it needed. It can't unleash more haki than Zoro have. That's why he almost lost his own arm on first usage.
Is not a benefit it is essentially a nerf.
Zoro was chopping up ywon sized golem in Dressrosa without going all out without Enma his AP has always been ridiculous. It has increased even further in Wano because of his training not Enma that sword sucking out your haki and releasing it at onve is a nerf actually one needs to overcome and not a PU.
That seem to be exactly what happened since Zoro came down from the roof we see none of that crap when facing King. Enma will only be able to take as much haki as Zoro channels through it so how is it better than Shusui exactly when fully mastered.
That seem to be exactly what happened since Zoro came down from the roof we see none of that crap when facing King. Enma will only be able to take as much haki as Zoro channels through it so how is it better than Shusui exactly when fully mastered.
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nope, its still benefical at some point for his attack, same case of Luffy G4, because its sucking more of Luffy haki to get the stronger attack.
His AP didnt benefit from Enma so far.
The only time it could have benefited from it, he somehow missed the slash, I guess since Kaido would have died from it...
He was able to cut Kaido without Enma and he did it. Scabbards can cut Kaido and Zoro's AP has been miles above their long before Enma.
And it did make him stronger but not the way you think.
He is stronger when Enma's gimmick works aka Hiryu Kaen and Tatsumaki.
Other than that, Enma has never affected Zoro and changed nothing about him.
When he talks about unleashing Enma, he wasnt even applying Hardening lol.
I dont know how obvious it is that Zoro's firepower is miles above Scabbards who can cut Kaido without Enma but somehow you keep missing that. Enma literally doesnt affect any stat from Zoro aside from firepower and even that is only when it gathers a haki cloud.
The only time it could have benefited from it, he somehow missed the slash, I guess since Kaido would have died from it...
He was able to cut Kaido without Enma and he did it. Scabbards can cut Kaido and Zoro's AP has been miles above their long before Enma.
And it did make him stronger but not the way you think.
He is stronger when Enma's gimmick works aka Hiryu Kaen and Tatsumaki.
Other than that, Enma has never affected Zoro and changed nothing about him.
When he talks about unleashing Enma, he wasnt even applying Hardening lol.
I dont know how obvious it is that Zoro's firepower is miles above Scabbards who can cut Kaido without Enma but somehow you keep missing that. Enma literally doesnt affect any stat from Zoro aside from firepower and even that is only when it gathers a haki cloud.
That would be through Zoro own efforts not something you credit to Enma, the ones improving his stamina getting stronger by using a haki draining sword deserves all the cred. Which is why Tenguyama was actually hyping the wielders of Enma more than the sword itself during it's intro Zoro powered himself up to be able to se Enma not the other way around because as i have shown you once fully mastered it's basically just another Shusui
