Who will be the next Strawhat


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Jew D. Boy

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With Moral Pillar I think its the mentor.

Yeah Carrot has a strong mentor one panel/page of Pedro before he died the same chapter we learned this such and important pillar Oda hasn't expanded upon at all @Garp the Fist @Van

Like it doesn't make sense, the poster talks about who they actually read and understand One Piece yet shits that shitty post out, Yamato mentor is Oden I know alot are not religious (i'm not either) but when someone uses my bible to refer to Odens words and life its pretty self-expalintory.

@CarrotForNakama math homework by the way 2+2 = Lettuce
I sure hope this is what he was saying, because if I didn’t misunderstand and he really thinks there’s ANY sort of distinction between Carrot and Yamato on the morality scale, what the actual hell are any of us doing here?? :kaidowhat:
 
Yamato story centric arc ever since act 3
Has more much sadder past worth talking about
The character has actively been involved in this war and various panels rather than being absent
She has had five minute conversation with Luffy with her own personal goals and desires
Luffy and other strawhats are dealing with enemies that personal that effect her life style
Her zone transformation 24/7 suslong already
The marketing is already behind her in the official one piece youtube channel. We have seen her alongside with monster trio volume 100. Even the one piece wano cover for the anime as well.
Yamato has also talk about the dawn pedro mention

If anything carrot is just drifting away being left behind while the other strawhats getting stronger.
"has much more sadder past" this is nonsence. Yamato lost noone.
Exactly, 5 minute of conversation with Luffy ended by Luffy being fustrated and calling her Yamao.
The marketing is logical, it happened the same way with Oden. It doesn't mean anything, in fact it means that you should be careful and not trust what is being filled down your throat.

  • Lookout is a position that can be filled by anyone, and in fact has been performed by half of the current SHP with no problem throughout the entire series (and the role argument is bullshit on a fundamental level)
  • No interactions with the Dressrosa SHP, and calling her standing around the protagonists without really speaking to them or doing anything of note an “interaction” is complete nonsense
  • Tearing a wheel off a ship in WCI =\= holding Kaido off long enough for Luffy to come back, and if I have to explain THAT to you, holy shit
  • Moral pillar?? And that makes Yamato immoral?? You have zero evidence for either one, this is straight conjecture and totally illegitimate
Anything else?? We can do this all day, we’ve already done it most days for the last year and a half while Yamato gets more and more attention and the rabbit recedes entirely into the scenery.
- Like most of the job on the Sunny so the argument doesn't stand. And Wrong the role argument is important on a fundamental level
- Wrong. Carrot talked with Robin
- Meaningless this is not a race to who is doing a better job
- You do not understand what a moral pillar is.

- Yamato still has no post nor capacities for a post


Oda said all the SHs perform the lookout position in shifts actually. For Carrot to be the sole lookout, it means she can never sleep and would become even more redundant if she still swaps with the others. Even on the way to Onigashima, Usopp was the lookout even though Carrot was right there.
You should know that a rabbit never sleep totally, they have always their instinct ready for predator, so this is no a problem for Carrot. Plus her position has kingbirds shows that she doesn't have sleeping problem.

Next.

This is the most damning part. Imo it completely destroys Carrot's case. If she's going to be the lookout then why is Ussop doing her job while she's just standing around on the ship?
Because she is not a strawhat yet.

@Jew D. Boy @Sigran101 @Go D. Trussop found it. SBS Volume 74.



D: I would like to know the Straw Hats' bed times and wake up times! Penname fujiyama

O: I see. A very interesting question indeed. These people don't really follow much of a schedule but. In general.

Luffy
Sleep: When sleepy
Wake up: When he wakes up
(Sleeps for around 5 hours)


Zoro
Sleep: 4:00 am
Wake up: 7:00 am
(+naps)


Nami
Sleep: 11:00 pm
Wake up: 7:00 am


Usopp
Sleep: 1:00 am
Wake up: 8:00 am


Sanji
Sleep: 12:00 am
Wake up: 5:00 am


Chopper
Sleep: 9:00 pm
Wake up: 7:00 am
(+naps)


Robin
Sleep: 11:00 pm
Wake up: 6:00 am


Franky
Sleep: 1:00 am
Wake up: 9:00 am


Brook
Sleep: 12:00 am
Wake up: 5:00 am


And thus, even during instances where they have to navigate through the seas during nighttime, there will always need to be at least two people awake at all times in order to keep an eye out in both the front and back directions of the ship, hence every member alternates every 2 hours to stay on the lookout. It isn't too uncommon that these people don't get sufficient sleep.

So even with 9 people rotating, it's still difficult to get sleep AND you need 2 people at a time. But Carrot is supposed to do it all by herself?
Exactly, because she has experience on it and no sleeping problems.

Nah, only advantages. Do the math.

It’s only a disadvantage if Carrot is the only lookout.

She would actually be helpful if she were a part-time lookout like the rest of the SHs. There would be more people to take on look-out time so they can all collectively get more time to sleep.

But then what is Carrot actual role supposed to be on the crew? Litarally anybody can do what she’s doing. Lol
Like mostly all the job on the Sunny, they can be delt with by another strawhat.

Other than doing something literally everyone can do better, there's nothing else she can contribute... She's still a disadvantage overall...

If we're to get a lookout then it should've been Viola...
no one can be a better sentry than Carrot. It's in her bones.



With Moral Pillar I think its the mentor.

Yeah Carrot has a strong mentor one panel/page of Pedro before he died the same chapter we learned this such and important pillar Oda hasn't expanded upon at all @Garp the Fist @Van

Like it doesn't make sense, the poster talks about who they actually read and understand One Piece yet shits that shitty post out, Yamato mentor is Oden I know alot are not religious (i'm not either) but when someone uses my bible to refer to Odens words and life its pretty self-expalintory.

@CarrotForNakama math homework by the way 2+2 = Lettuce
There is no connection between Oden and Yamato other than Yamato being a fan. Oden didn't know Yamato
 

Jew D. Boy

I Can Go Lower
- You do not understand what a moral pillar is.
Sure, that’s the issue here, has nothing to do with you responding to substantial counterpoints with “Wrong” like some third-rate furry version of my country’s last president. Apropos of nothing, your definition of “interaction” makes me think you say way more in your head on the rare occasion you’re invited to a party than you do out loud :wonderland:
 
There is no connection between Oden and Yamato other than Yamato being a fan. Oden didn't know Yamato
None of that matters.

I mean plenty of people can be inspired by someone they never meet before, plenty of people never meet Martin Luther King but are touched and inspired by his messages and writing, MLK never meet Ghandi but served as his guiding light, Jaime Reyes never meet Ted Cord till way after he took on the mantle of Blue Beetle, Kyle Rayner, etc.

You don't need to meet someone you can look at there life, there actions, there own written words, Yamato knows more about Oden his words, his actions etc with reading his journal.

You really are dumb aren't you?
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@Van Sometimes you got to wish to ban posters for being intellectually dishonest don't you?
 
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You should know that a rabbit never sleep totally, they have always their instinct ready for predator, so this is no a problem for Carrot. Plus her position has kingbirds shows that she doesn't have sleeping problem.


Because she is not a strawhat yet.
"Not a strawhat yet" is not an excuse, and I know you know that. Every strawhat is consistently showcased in their role before they join. There is absolutely no reason for Ussop to do the job when she's standing right there, especially given the lack of attention she's had for the rest of the arc. I don't recall Ussop trying to navigate while Nami was a temporary ally because "she's not a strawhat yet".

Also imagine expecting accurate biology to play a part in a story where a triceritops can fly by spinning it's frills.
 
"Carrot can't join as Lookout because Usopp is already doing the job."

By the logic
Yamao can't join as clown because Luffy, Usopp, Chopper, Sanji, Franky, Brook are already clowning everytimes.

So what's the next excuse?
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"Do we really need another lookout because 1 person is already doing it?"

Do we really need another clown when more than half of the crew already doing it?
 

Jew D. Boy

I Can Go Lower
"Carrot can't join as Lookout because Usopp is already doing the job."

By the logic
Yamao can't join as clown because Luffy, Usopp, Chopper, Sanji, Franky, Brook are already clowning everytimes.

So what's the next excuse?
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"Do we really need another lookout because 1 person is already doing it?"

Do we really need another clown when more than half of the crew already doing it?
Judging by the company you’re keeping here, I’d say you sure know a lot about clowns :luuh:
 
Nah, only advantages. Do the math.
I did the Math and perfectly concluded that Carrot is nothing but a disadvantage...

Because she is not a strawhat yet.
This argument is in bad faith... It should've been the good time to showcase that so-called lookout skills of your hero...

no one can be a better sentry than Carrot. It's in her bones.
ROFL...

Yeah right, it's in her bones... To be a flop queen...



None of that matters.

I mean plenty of people can be inspired by someone they never meet before, plenty of people never meet Martin Luther King but are touched and inspired by his messages and writing, MLK never meet Ghandi but served as his guiding light, Jaime Reyes never meet Ted Cord till way after he took on the mantle of Blue Beetle, Kyle Rayner, etc.

You don't need to meet someone you can look at there life, there actions, there own written words, Yamato knows more about Oden his words, his actions etc with reading his journal.
This... Which reminds me, one of Oda's inspirations are the Vikings... Which he never met obviously...

Sure, that’s the issue here, has nothing to do with you responding to substantial counterpoints with “Wrong” like some third-rate furry version of my country’s last president. Apropos of nothing, your definition of “interaction” makes me think you say way more in your head on the rare occasion you’re invited to a party than you do out loud :wonderland:
Exactly this...

"Carrot can't join as Lookout because Usopp is already doing the job."

By the logic
Yamao can't join as clown because Luffy, Usopp, Chopper, Sanji, Franky, Brook are already clowning everytimes.

So what's the next excuse?
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"Do we really need another lookout because 1 person is already doing it?"

Do we really need another clown when more than half of the crew already doing it?
ROFL... Clown post... :denzimote:
 
"Carrot can't join as Lookout because Usopp is already doing the job."

By the logic
Yamao can't join as clown because Luffy, Usopp, Chopper, Sanji, Franky, Brook are already clowning everytimes.

So what's the next excuse?
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"Do we really need another lookout because 1 person is already doing it?"

Do we really need another clown when more than half of the crew already doing it?
At least try.
 
So, no counter arguments at all?

When you all kept bringing "Carrot can't join cuz Usopp already a lookout", it is only natural for one to question Yamao's future job, considering more than half of the crew already doing it.
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At least argue something like "but Yamao has been consistently doing her clowning job for 20 years. She has 10 times more experience compared to half of crew who only do it for 2 years." instead of throwing insults and crying.
 
Sure, that’s the issue here, has nothing to do with you responding to substantial counterpoints with “Wrong” like some third-rate furry version of my country’s last president. Apropos of nothing, your definition of “interaction” makes me think you say way more in your head on the rare occasion you’re invited to a party than you do out loud :wonderland:

All your counter points are baised on bias and/or bad faith analogy, so don't worry, I know what the problem is here ;)

:cheers:


"Not a strawhat yet" is not an excuse, and I know you know that. Every strawhat is consistently showcased in their role before they join. There is absolutely no reason for Ussop to do the job when she's standing right there, especially given the lack of attention she's had for the rest of the arc. I don't recall Ussop trying to navigate while Nami was a temporary ally because "she's not a strawhat yet".

Also imagine expecting accurate biology to play a part in a story where a triceritops can fly by spinning it's frills.
And that has been the case for Carrot on every but one instance and you know, If you see a problem and taking that one instance to show that Carrot is not doing her job when we see she is just getting ready to fight.., you are using bad faith. There are no other words for what you are doing ;)

So "not a strawhat yet" is the right answer.

Judging by the company you’re keeping here, I’d say you sure know a lot about clowns :luuh:
You must know a lot of bad people then..

I did the Math and perfectly concluded that Carrot is nothing but a disadvantage...



This argument is in bad faith... It should've been the good time to showcase that so-called lookout skills of your hero...



ROFL...

Yeah right, it's in her bones... To be a flop queen...





This... Which reminds me, one of Oda's inspirations are the Vikings... Which he never met obviously...



Exactly this...



ROFL... Clown post... :denzimote:
You did the math wrong, count again.
 
"has much more sadder past" this is nonsence. Yamato lost noone.
Exactly, 5 minute of conversation with Luffy ended by Luffy being fustrated and calling her Yamao.
The marketing is logical, it happened the same way with Oden. It doesn't mean anything, in fact it means that you should be careful and not trust what is being filled down your throat.



- Like most of the job on the Sunny so the argument doesn't stand. And Wrong the role argument is important on a fundamental level
- Wrong. Carrot talked with Robin
- Meaningless this is not a race to who is doing a better job
- You do not understand what a moral pillar is.

- Yamato still has no post nor capacities for a post




You should know that a rabbit never sleep totally, they have always their instinct ready for predator, so this is no a problem for Carrot. Plus her position has kingbirds shows that she doesn't have sleeping problem.

Next.



Because she is not a strawhat yet.



Exactly, because she has experience on it and no sleeping problems.



Nah, only advantages. Do the math.



Like mostly all the job on the Sunny, they can be delt with by another strawhat.



no one can be a better sentry than Carrot. It's in her bones.





There is no connection between Oden and Yamato other than Yamato being a fan. Oden didn't know Yamato
Are you kidding me? Yamato a person/Oni who has been prisoner under her father’s organization for 28 years who has been physically and mentally abuse by their own real father. She Barely had a life call her own. Always in hiding and running away from him. Anyone who shows any form compassion to her whine up being dead. The girl has been crying for freedom for 28 years. Carrot’s mentors sacrifice himself to push other characters along and yes, her home was being attack by Kaido's forces beforehand. However, the minks did not seem to mind laying down their lives protecting their leaders’s friend. In other words, there was no personal conflicts between the tribe. As well zou flashback it did not center around carrot as a character.



Do you know what never got elaborate backstory? Her relationship with Pedro. Yes, Pedro showed us he lost years of his life and sacrifice his own eye. However, we never got in depth flashback between the teacher(Pedro) and student ( Carrot). Who resolved Carrot personal trauma that affect her life after going on adventure with the strawhats? Oh, right it was Cat Viper and Dogstorm who defeat both Perospero and Jack.

After having a five-minute conversation with Luffy. Luffy does question her allegiance if it is okay fight against her father. Yamato does not seem have a problem with it since both her and her father do not like each other. In turn Luffy frees Yamato from her explosive cuffs. When momo was in danger, he trusted her not once but twice to look after momo in the meantime. Yamato has done things outside of Luffy orders hold off Kaido until Luffy recovers. Trying to minimize explosive killing everyone on the island teaching momo little bit how use flame clouds. Taking out the giant oars like creature that was chasing Franky. What did Luffy trust Carrot to do? Tell the strawhats plus her keep eye on the sunny while he deals with katkurai which remarkably similar response that he gave to the crew when they were heading to zou. Yes, Carrot did take down some of Big Mom’s fleet of ships, she did try save brook, she did help rescue the vinesmoke, she had help chopper defeat bruelee, and she also protected Nami.But after saving Marco Carrot has not been shown for quite number of chapters. When she did return, she practically lost the fight that was off screen, and she did not do much anything remaining throughout the rest of the arc. None of the strawhats came to her aid in order help in her time of need. Yes, half strawhats thank for Carrot saving them against big mom’s fleet of ships. Luffy has also thank Yamato for holding off Kaido for him. King and queen and even jimbei acknowledge someone was holding off kaido. Jimbei does question why isn't Kaido is not down here where the rest strawhats are when Luffy taken out for the second time who is holding him off.





Coming from you who believes the excuse that carrot needs be stowaway because lack of attention she does not have in this arc tells me your worried that Yamato might steel her spotlight as last strawhat member. Let us face it Yamato has sad past than carrot does. Her resolution for own personal trauma is already being resolve by the strawhats as while we are reading Wano. She kind owe Luffy a bit of gratitude not just freeing her from her predicament and but also defeating the major villain that had personally affected her lifestyle. As well the marketing for her has been more explosive been advertise in comparison to carrot despite the fact was already in top ten list. So, she has enough motivation and push her forward alongside with Luffy and rest of the strawhats. Her zone transformation is 24/7 suslong with additional haki alongside with it. The girl has not had life call her own while carrot did not have trouble past, but Carrot did have an experience change her life forever. The resolution for Carrot problem was resolve by non-strawhat members. Yamato getting more characterization and screen time. While Carrot remains in the background and has become more of support character.
 
Are you kidding me? Yamato a person/Oni who has been prisoner under her father’s organization for 28 years who has been physically and mentally abuse by their own real father. She Barely had a life call her own. Always in hiding and running away from him. Anyone who shows any form compassion to her whine up being dead. The girl has been crying for freedom for 28 years. Carrot’s mentors sacrifice himself to push other characters along and yes, her home was being attack by Kaido's forces beforehand. However, the minks did not seem to mind laying down their lives protecting their leaders’s friend. In other words, there was no personal conflicts between the tribe. As well zou flashback it did not center around carrot as a character.
This is basically Grief+hardship against solitude, abuse and hardship. I consider grief+hardship as a major trauma over the rest, you consider the opposite. There is no right or wrong answer here. Let's agree to disagree.

Do you know what never got elaborate backstory? Her relationship with Pedro. Yes, Pedro showed us he lost years of his life and sacrifice his own eye. However, we never got in depth flashback between the teacher(Pedro) and student ( Carrot). Who resolved Carrot personal trauma that affect her life after going on adventure with the strawhats? Oh, right it was Cat Viper and Dogstorm who defeat both Perospero and Jack.
There is no need to have a long backstory to understand a grief (or you lack empathy) same case as Usopp, we did not get a long backstory on his grief yet we understand it full well. We had what we needed. Also careful, Carrot's personal trauma has not be delt with yet. The defeat of Perospero is just a part of Carrot's arc

After having a five-minute conversation with Luffy. Luffy does question her allegiance if it is okay fight against her father. Yamato does not seem have a problem with it since both her and her father do not like each other. In turn Luffy frees Yamato from her explosive cuffs. When momo was in danger, he trusted her not once but twice to look after momo in the meantime. Yamato has done things outside of Luffy orders hold off Kaido until Luffy recovers. Trying to minimize explosive killing everyone on the island teaching momo little bit how use flame clouds. Taking out the giant oars like creature that was chasing Franky. What did Luffy trust Carrot to do? Tell the strawhats plus her keep eye on the sunny while he deals with katkurai which remarkably similar response that he gave to the crew when they were heading to zou. Yes, Carrot did take down some of Big Mom’s fleet of ships, she did try save brook, she did help rescue the vinesmoke, she had help chopper defeat bruelee, and she also protected Nami.But after saving Marco Carrot has not been shown for quite number of chapters. When she did return, she practically lost the fight that was off screen, and she did not do much anything remaining throughout the rest of the arc. None of the strawhats came to her aid in order help in her time of need. Yes, half strawhats thank for Carrot saving them against big mom’s fleet of ships. Luffy has also thank Yamato for holding off Kaido for him. King and queen and even jimbei acknowledge someone was holding off kaido. Jimbei does question why isn't Kaido is not down here where the rest strawhats are when Luffy taken out for the second time who is holding him off.
Luffy trust his close ally, it comes with the package, this is not something surprising. For the rest your are making my point for me.



Coming from you who believes the excuse that carrot needs be stowaway because lack of attention she does not have in this arc tells me your worried that Yamato might steel her spotlight as last strawhat member. Let us face it Yamato has sad past than carrot does. Her resolution for own personal trauma is already being resolve by the strawhats as while we are reading Wano. She kind owe Luffy a bit of gratitude not just freeing her from her predicament and but also defeating the major villain that had personally affected her lifestyle. As well the marketing for her has been more explosive been advertise in comparison to carrot despite the fact was already in top ten list. So, she has enough motivation and push her forward alongside with Luffy and rest of the strawhats. Her zone transformation is 24/7 suslong with additional haki alongside with it. The girl has not had life call her own while carrot did not have trouble past, but Carrot did have an experience change her life forever. The resolution for Carrot problem was resolve by non-strawhat members. Yamato getting more characterization and screen time. While Carrot remains in the background and has become more of support character.
I'm sorry I didn't understand a thing. If your point is that Yamato has been in the front page for long enough, don't worry, it's logical as a decoy.
 
This is basically Grief+hardship against solitude, abuse and hardship. I consider grief+hardship as a major trauma over the rest, you consider the opposite. There is no right or wrong answer here. Let's agree to disagree.



There is no need to have a long backstory to understand a grief (or you lack empathy) same case as Usopp, we did not get a long backstory on his grief yet we understand it full well. We had what we needed. Also careful, Carrot's personal trauma has not be delt with yet. The defeat of Perospero is just a part of Carrot's arc



Luffy trust his close ally, it comes with the package, this is not something surprising. For the rest your are making my point for me.





I'm sorry I didn't understand a thing. If your point is that Yamato has been in the front page for long enough, don't worry, it's logical as a decoy.
Carrot backstory panel was very similar that of paulie, otama,chew chew and bartolomeo. There characters are not strawhat worth might as well ally. If yamato such decoy how come carrot has not done nothing throughout this arc how come she has not seen. While other strawhats doing work while she has done nothing.
 
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