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How much did King surpass your expectations?

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Sure, this shit looks powerful and highly destructive but what is a city to a mountain?

Look what King demonstrated this chapter.

Beak missile:


This beak missile destroyed several mountains. Those mountains are a few hundreds of meters, at least 10x taller than the Numbers. This attack has the potency to destroy several cities at once.

Then you have King matching Zoro's hardening slashes and overpowering him in said clash, destroying a mountain just by launching Zoro there:


How does Pica match this shit?
Erm those are just rocks tho? In the missile head scene there is a house besides the rocks, the size of the house isn't miniscule compared to the rocks, so those rocks are not mountains imo. King launched Zoro to destroy a house-sized rock as well, if its a mountain then Zoro's body isnt gonna be visible since the size difference.

...not talking about the powerlevel of Zoro's block tho since it will add to the calc, but saying those are mountains is incorrect imo, Pica's hand is much bigger than the individual rock King destroyed.
 
I'm losing my mind for not putting King at top tier level?

One of my recent posts:



Buuuuuut, on this case, Zoro kind of hinted a mysterious ability about King which could be the reason why his durability is this exceptional.
It wouldn't wonder me if King has his own "FS" version of his COA + fire ability but this time Oda didn't make it as obvious as Katakuri's observation haki.

^This one is from the spoiler thread which I couldn't quote anymore but you get the picture.

Edit: Second quote was about Cinera asking Shishio whether he thinks "King > Kaido in durability".
You saying shit like King is destroying mountains lmao. How can you even see that.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
Erm those are just rocks tho? In the missile head scene there is a house besides the rocks, the size of the house isn't miniscule compared to the rocks, so those rocks are not mountains imo. King launched Zoro to destroy a house-sized rock as well, if its a mountain then Zoro's body isnt gonna be visible since the size difference.
That isn't a normal house though? That's like the entrance to Onigashima - an Island where everything is oversized in everyway and form.
 
Erm those are just rocks tho? In the missile head scene there is a house besides the rocks, the size of the house isn't miniscule compared to the rocks, so those rocks are not mountains imo.
No, those "hills" are actually mountains. Onigashima is surrounded by a whole mountain range according to Law.

The mountains on top of the skull are 7 - 10x larger than the Numbers. The numbers are ~60m in size. This site calced the mountains - it's a general calc about Kaido lifting Onigashima but they had to do smaller calcs for their end result - of the skull.

Also, houses and buildings are generally rather big in scale since everything is big in Onigashima.

if its a mountain then Zoro's body isnt gonna be visible since the size difference.
It's one of Oda's inconsistency examples, you could see Zoro's body when he cut Pica's golem as well.
His scale drawings are especially inconsistent in Onigashima but if he purposely draws those mountains far larger than numbers, it's definitely a statement.

You saying shit like King is destroying mountains lmao.
Because that's happening on panel lol. Sorry for analyzing what Oda draws...
 
That isn't a normal house though? That's like the entrance to Onigashima - an Island where everything is oversized in everyway and form.
Is it the entrance? Its located on the very edge of the island, and i remember the entrance to be more decorated and theres a river etc? Onigashima also have other houses, no reason to assume that remote house as the big entrance imo.

No, those "hills" are actually mountains. Onigashima is surrounded by a whole mountain range according to Law.

The mountains on top of the skull are 7 - 10x larger than the Numbers. The numbers are ~60m in size. This site calced the mountains - it's a general calc about Kaido lifting Onigashima but they had to do smaller calcs for their end result - of the skull.

Also, houses and buildings are generally rather big in scale since everything is big in Onigashima.



It's one of Oda's inconsistency examples, you could see Zoro's body when he cut Pica's golem as well.
His scale drawings are especially inconsistent in Onigashima but if he purposely draws those mountains far larger than numbers, it's definitely a statement.



Because that's happening on panel lol. Sorry for analyzing what Oda draws...
In the panel i can compare King's pteranodon body and his beak snap to the destroyed rocks and the hole, the smoke ring doesnt depict mountain-sized at all, the rock formation doesnt necessarily the mountains that surround Onigashima either, its not convincing at all to state that those rocks are the surrounding mountains. The Dressrosa's rocky mountain being destroyed by Fuji's named attack toward Luffy was much more consistent with mountain size. Imo those rocks are not even hills, those are way too small for that considering the rocks' comparison to Zoro and King.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
Is it the entrance? Its located on the very edge of the island, and i remember the entrance to be more decorated and theres a river etc? Onigashima also have other houses, no reason to assume that remote house as the big entrance imo.
Yeah it is the entrance, it isn't the centre one but the route Denjiro used to enter Onigashima. Look at my other post where I tagged you for the exact size of that entrance.
 
@uyuu @Sentinel here are some panels where the size of those rocks are elaborated more.





Here's the house in question -
At the panel "...the plan evolves on the spot" its visible that the rocks are everywhere, small ones near the stairs, larger ones near the trees etc. To say that Zoro's ichidai sanzen as mountain-level is believable to me, but to state that those destroyed rocks are mountains while at Onigashima the rocks are literally everywhere in various shapes and size, it doesnt convince me as much, especially with Zoro being thrown away and still big enough to be visible when coming in contact with the rocks.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
At the panel "...the plan evolves on the spot" its visible that the rocks are everywhere, small ones near the stairs, larger ones near the trees etc. To say that Zoro's ichidai sanzen as mountain-level is believable to me, but to state that those destroyed rocks are mountains while at Onigashima the rocks are literally everywhere in various shapes and size, it doesnt convince me as much, especially with Zoro being thrown away and still big enough to be visible when coming in contact with the rocks.
Right after ISDS Zoro with CoA hardening nameless slashes was slicing up Pica.

But I dont think the rock where Zoro was sent after the swordfight was that large thats a small one. The rock that the beak attack destroyed was big though.
 
Originally I didn't think we'd get Zoro vs Kaido or ZKK. So I was happy with King because I knew he'd be strong. The problem now though is that since we did get Zoro vs Kaido, then having King be his only achievement in the arc would be disappointing.

I'll get an OP tattoo if Zoro solo walks King, and I'll post it here.
I'm terrified by the off chance that someone actually believes in Sanji vs King.

A guy who got sky raped by Dofy is gonna go in the air and use flaming kicks against a pterodactyl who has fire as his whole fucking theme. Because now he has the power of the guys who got beaten up by some other billion dollar pirate.

As opposed to Zoro with his new sword named after the king of hell and a seeded fascination with cutting through fire.
 
The problem now though is that since we did get Zoro vs Kaido, then having King be his only achievement in the arc would be disappointing.
I mean, as much as certain people here are now trying to pretend the rooftop didn’t happen or downplay it massively- it did. Blocking Hakkai and scarring Kaido are still massive achievements, even if he doesn’t do anything else other than beat King (again, a massive achievement on it’s own as well).

Remember that after the rooftop some folk (same certain people, funnily enough) were trying to say Zoro had done enough for the entire arc and would stay down for good lol.

I still think he’ll do something else to Kaido, though. One more attack over the Flower Capital like Ryuma did.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
You keep saying that as if repeating it will make it happen, Ill give you faster and maybe more durable but thats pretty much it. Not sure how agressiveness is an actual stat btw. He spams attacks faster than Kaido and yet did not do as much as one hit from TB did to Zoro.
Why are you acting that this is something that has to happen? It already happened.
One hit from TB did nothing to Zoro, he was already collapsed and exhausted before it.
It didnt even manage to break an additional bone. It couldnt even affect someone like Law, lmao.
Aggressiveness isnt a stat indeed but his personality - stays on your neck attack after attack, unlike Kaido...

No I am not, those two things are not comparable because one can block in that form whereas the other cannot.
Did he block Oni Giri? lmao
No matter what you say, King is handling damage better than Kaido does.

Last time I checked, he was called the World's Strongest Creature.
:milaugh:
And? Is there a point in saying something we all knew?
Or you forgot that he is also called the toughest in the world?

Stop the King > Kaido thing but most people were absolute idiots for underestimating King.
Nobody is saying King is stronger than Kaido, we are saying he is better at many things than Kaido.
To the point that I am wondering why is Kaido even stronger... :sus:

Bro, I legit have to explain to him why King's AP is far stronger than Pica's. It's legit peak levels of desperation what he's demonstrating here lmao.
I think it's a weird comparison you two are making, hard to find a common ground to compare those two. It's different.

Well, Pica's AP causes good environmental damage but if he were to clash with King's hakified sword slash, he'd immediately lose the clash despite his city sized punch since King's AP is much stronger.
Pica has size and weight. His weakness is golem body being brittle and breaking apart because it is made of stone.
If that huge body was flesh and bones, King would lose the exchange.
Im just not wanking him to retarded lvls anymore.
Maybe you should because the guy is straight-up tougher than even Kaido. :saden:
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
King is a YC 1. Anyone with a lick of sense should have known he was extremely powerful from the get go, without needing a single feat to suggest it. Oda is very specific in his tier level portrayals.
I like how you discard everything we saw by labelling him a yc1...
It's like we didnt see with our own eyes that he literally is better than top tier in toughness and many other things.
Not just any top tier but the number 1 in the manga...
Beckman is also a yc1 and comparable to Shanks. YC1 is just a ranking for crew members, not for their stats.
 
I like how you discard everything we saw by labelling him a yc1...
It's like we didnt see with our own eyes that he literally is better than top tier in toughness and many other things.
Not just any top tier but the number 1 in the manga...
Beckman is also a yc1 and comparable to Shanks. YC1 is just a ranking for crew members, not for their stats.
Kaido would mid diff King no one cares about ur fetish of wanking every Zoro opponent to the moon. When all King is doing is show why he's Kaido's right hand, something you would expect from a yonko right hand.
 
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