Chapter Discussion Beyond dragons and dinos

Zowo

Zowo

cry
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#41
#41
Paperchampion23 said:
I harken it more to "tanking" attacks vs blocking it. An example ive thrown around is Zoro using his blades to block attacks vs Luffy using his arms. It's not really comparable. But seeing how Luffy and Zoro tank damage overall? I'd treat them as similar/equal in that regard. Not because we compare how they block stuff, but compare how they tank damage in the end. Even on that front I'd give Zoro the edge because of Thriller Bark and the shit he's gone through in pre-TS fights.

While yes, King is using his own wings here, we know they seem to be at least part of the reason for his toughness, since they can be used like blades and he does use them to block here.

I'm not saying he can't be "tougher" than Kaido when it comes to blocking attacks, but I think tanking attacks is an entirely different idea and should be a considerable factor.
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still doenst change the fact that king says after zoro talks about dragons and dinos "true but in my specific case it goes even beyond that"
 
Kuro Ashi

Kuro Ashi

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#43
#43
Basically means there's something more that adds to his ability to soak damage beside his DF.


Like Page One, Ulti and X Drake just have Dino DF's but regular human bodies.

Queen has Dino DF + Modified body

King has Dino DF + Lunarian traits


:myman:
 
Trafalgar_D_Law

Trafalgar_D_Law

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#44
#44
Gon’s Missing Arm said:
We just witnessed King say he has a better ability to soak up damage than Kaido. Zoro says, "Hey King, I see you can soak up damage like The Dragon aka Kaido."

King says "Yeah, but even beyond Kaido".
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Can u post the panel of these Quotes lol
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Everything you say is an assumption,
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It’s an assumption that Luffy ACoA bypasses durability?? Clown read the source material, it’ll help Squash some of these delusions!!!
you are just saying nonsense, "oh yeah Luffy G4 Ryou will turn kInG to mUsH".
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So any actual evidence Kings recovery/endurance are even in Kaido stratosphere?? Kaido after Kong gatlin temporarily downed. Any logical reason at all Kings not killed would be greatly appreciated
No proof anywhere, meanwhile King perform better than Kaido with a Dragon Twister.
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Luffy attacks bypass durability!!! Google what that phase mean if ur having trouble. As a direct result of his ACoA, King Wing durability near irrelevant lol. address that, or hurry up an switch up. king needs to dodge

we all know he’s not comparable to Kaido in endurance/recovery. King needs to dodge Or ryou luffy turning him into mush
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Gon’s Missing Arm

Gon’s Missing Arm

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#46
#46
Trafalgar_D_Law said:
Can u post the panel of these Quotes lol
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It’s an assumption that Luffy ACoA bypasses durability?? Clown read the source material, it’ll help Squash some of these delusions!!!
So any actual evidence Kings recovery/endurance are even in Kaido stratosphere?? Kaido after Kong gatlin temporarily downed. Any logical reason at all Kings not killed would be greatly appreciated

Luffy attacks bypass durability!!! Google what that phase mean if ur having trouble. King Wing durability, near irrelevant lol. An we all know he’s not comparable to Kaido in endurance/recovery. Hence ryou luffy turning him into mush
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This is the panel. Zoro isn't separating Oni race or Dragon race, he just simply says, you can soak up damage like The Dragon (aka Kaido).

Yes I know Luffy bypass the skin, Zoro is saying soak up damage so yeah that includes damage internally, so what Luffy bypass the skin, who cares Zoro don't need to because he strong enough to cut the scales and go beneath.

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No need to cope so much guys, Kaido is the captain dont worry, were only talking durability soak up damage here. Were coming for Kaido too:myman:
 
Trafalgar_D_Law

Trafalgar_D_Law

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#50
#50
Gon’s Missing Arm said:
This is the panel. Zoro isn't separating Oni race or Dragon race, he just simply says, you can soak up damage like The Dragon (aka Kaido).

Yes I know Luffy bypass the skin, Zoro is saying soak up damage so yeah that includes damage internally, so what Luffy bypass the skin, who cares Zoro don't need to because he strong enough to cut the scales and go beneath.

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No need to cope so much guys, Kaido is the captain dont worry, were only talking durability soak up damage here. Were coming for Kaido too:myman:
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so basically ur delusional?? I tried anyway

all In all King wing/overall durability irrelevant against Luffy form of ACoA. Based on Kong gatlin effects on Kaido, an Meme reaction. King gets completely obliterated. Hell even base luffy ryou attacks would technically work. G4 overall kill.

Even thinking King Recovery/Endurance is in the same tier with Kaido not something worth discussion. He’d have long been dead, if put thro the amount of attacks Kaido soaked up.
 
The White Crane

The White Crane

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#55
#55
nik87 said:
Next chapter...
Kaido: King is tougher than even me.
Denial squad: What does he mean with that? :sus:
:cantseeme:
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Luffy will then reply with, "There is nothing my partner can't cut" and the denial squad will be like, "Luffy doesn't know about Cook's power-up at this point hurr durr!" :shame:
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ShadyOjiro said:
If Kaido says something like your crew is done for by mentioning King.

Idk what headcanon they will create .
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Probably along the lines of "King and Queen are equal because they are portrayed together all the time, 70 million difference only, wings hurr durr!" :jay-he:
 
nik87

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
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#56
#56
TheAncientCenturion said:
No one besides Nik thinks that but every Kata/Luffy stan out there is foaming at the mouth thinking we're saying that just because King has better durability than a mythical zoan.
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I am not saying that King is stronger than Kaido either but I do wonder what keeps Kaido as stronger considering that King is tougher than him as well as being better in many other stats... Foaming is free salt for popcorn, we should enjoy it. :goyea:
The White Crane said:
Luffy will then reply with, "There is nothing my partner can't cut" and the denial squad will be like, "Luffy doesn't know about Cook's power-up at this point hurr durr!" :shame:
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Probably along the lines of "King and Queen are equal because they are portrayed together all the time, 70 million difference only, wings hurr durr!" :jay-he:
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Zoro vs Kaido woke them all up.
Zoro vs King has thrown them all outta their bed. :cantseeme:
 
Charlotte Horchata

Charlotte Horchata

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#57
#57
And then you remember that Kaido is also an oni, so King's statement is pretty much empty hype for the fight.

Also, the Spanish version speaks of "dragons" in plural, in case you guys want to discuss translations.
 
Finalbeta

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
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#59
#59
It's possible that Hybrid Kaido's durability is better than his Dragon counterpart but evidence suggests King's wing protection makes him more durable than Dragon Kaido, I quite doubt Zoro is so stamina nerfed such a differential was illuded.
 
Lor D. Coast

Lor D. Coast

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#60
#60
Charlotte Horchata said:
And then you remember that Kaido is also an oni, so King's statement is pretty much empty hype for the fight.

Also, the Spanish version speaks of "dragons" in plural, in case you guys want to discuss translations.
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Oni like Yamato? So Kaido's natural durability wouldn't be able to face tank Sasaki and his fodders, forced to use haki and block gunfire from nameless gifters. :rolaugh:


Meanwhile Momo with the same DF as Kaido got so strong that he could bite through Kaido's scales. :denzimote:
 
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