Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1033 Spoilers Discussion
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Who knows....infinite possibilities....you and I both can "imagine" many scenarious....at the end of the day, it doesn't matter.....
It is no boxing match.....just a duel between pirates.....there is no such thing as pure or impure.....circumstances and stuff everything included because with ifs and buts there will be no single outcome one can reach....
Ask Oda why he said that way then......there is no throwing logic out of window....you can say Zoro vs Pica is not a "pure" 1 vs 1 then....or even right now with King....
It is no boxing match.....just a duel between pirates.....there is no such thing as pure or impure.....circumstances and stuff everything included because with ifs and buts there will be no single outcome one can reach....
Ask Oda why he said that way then......there is no throwing logic out of window....you can say Zoro vs Pica is not a "pure" 1 vs 1 then....or even right now with King....
Don't forget Doflamingo surviving an entire round of G4 then Luffy requiring an entire hoard of citizens and warriors to protect him before he regains his strength and haki. That fight had fuck-ton of outside interference, mostly in Luffy's favor.
Brulee bought him even more time to figure out KK and FS. Flambe completely fucked up the flow of fight and caused a lot of unnecessary damage to both side- I can argue that Katakuri would've handled Snakeman way better and would've been able to stall it out if it wasn't for the fact that he was on timer and had a gaping hole in his stomach. But either way, that wasn't a man to man, 1v1 dual if it had multiple outside interference that directly hurt the two fighting participants.
Brulee bought him even more time to figure out KK and FS. Flambe completely fucked up the flow of fight and caused a lot of unnecessary damage to both side- I can argue that Katakuri would've handled Snakeman way better and would've been able to stall it out if it wasn't for the fact that he was on timer and had a gaping hole in his stomach. But either way, that wasn't a man to man, 1v1 dual if it had multiple outside interference that directly hurt the two fighting participants.
Luffy used CoC coating snakeman against base Kaido and it didn't do shit, he has been using gears the whole time and his fruit is overpowered, it's giving him forms like Toriyama gives Goku new transformations. 
Not really........then Oda is not a person with "proper" brain functioning....
Anything opposite at that point of time is foolishness...it is not cowardly....you don't even know the meaning of "cowardly".....Luffy need not to come back again if it is "cowardly"....he can just simply go away with brulee by trapping Katakuri in the mirror world forever....
Pekoms even came into picture only after Katakuri accepted his defeat....Luffy still ready to fight before Katakuri accepting his loss.....only then Luffy relaxed.....
Anything opposite at that point of time is foolishness...it is not cowardly....you don't even know the meaning of "cowardly".....Luffy need not to come back again if it is "cowardly"....he can just simply go away with brulee by trapping Katakuri in the mirror world forever....
Pekoms even came into picture only after Katakuri accepted his defeat....Luffy still ready to fight before Katakuri accepting his loss.....only then Luffy relaxed.....
The same guy they always love to downplay :laughmoji:
We have to be objective here with Enma. I trashed Zoro when people suggested he could do shit to Kaido, or his disappointing upper body physical strength display against King (Jozu would have laughed off King's attacks).
But Zoro here is objectively nerfed. He's struggling to use Enma. This ordeal will make him stronger LONG TERM, but for the short term he is nerfed, especially if he is down to 1 sword as per spoilers.
If Zoro was in "normal" mode with Shusui, a fucking black blade, he'd do much better against King. That's the sword of a "Sword God" who sliced dragons.
Until Zoro masters Enma, it is a clear nerf.
But Zoro here is objectively nerfed. He's struggling to use Enma. This ordeal will make him stronger LONG TERM, but for the short term he is nerfed, especially if he is down to 1 sword as per spoilers.
If Zoro was in "normal" mode with Shusui, a fucking black blade, he'd do much better against King. That's the sword of a "Sword God" who sliced dragons.
Until Zoro masters Enma, it is a clear nerf.
Zoro was controlling himself due enma.
Exactly. It's a dual between pirates, circumstances can be wildly different. But it's not a 1v1, man to man combat if there's someone directly harming both of them significantly and ruining the flow of battle. Who knows if Katakuri would be able to just outstall Snakeman (which has a timer) or not if he wasn't having heavy blood loss with a gaping hole in his stomach.
Either way, I honor Luffy's win as a victory over Katakuri as a pirate, but it definitely was not a fair dual where Luffy won purely from his own capabilities.
Zoro vs Pica fight was a dual, but him saving King Riku wasn't. Orlumbus sent him towards Pica, but Zoro proved he can cut him even without that momentum when his follow-up vertical ISDS cleaved even more area in half than the direction where he was thrown.
King vs Zoro is fair from this point onward. You can argue that he was exhausted by Marco and say "Zoro only beat exhausted King in fair 1v1", then that's w/e (I disagree, but that's different thing).
I just corrected someone saying Luffy won against everyone 1v1. Those were clearly not 1v1. Maybe he would've won without outside stuff as well, but it still wasn't 1v1.
Either way, I honor Luffy's win as a victory over Katakuri as a pirate, but it definitely was not a fair dual where Luffy won purely from his own capabilities.
Zoro vs Pica fight was a dual, but him saving King Riku wasn't. Orlumbus sent him towards Pica, but Zoro proved he can cut him even without that momentum when his follow-up vertical ISDS cleaved even more area in half than the direction where he was thrown.
King vs Zoro is fair from this point onward. You can argue that he was exhausted by Marco and say "Zoro only beat exhausted King in fair 1v1", then that's w/e (I disagree, but that's different thing).
I just corrected someone saying Luffy won against everyone 1v1. Those were clearly not 1v1. Maybe he would've won without outside stuff as well, but it still wasn't 1v1.
No need....but someone like Brulee who puts Katakuri in a higher pedestal saying is altogether different....forget her, Katakuri himself acknowledged Luffy as his equal....but we ignore all these things and interpretations or see only what we want to see or ignore rest just cause of some hidden agenda.....right....
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