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[Doggo]

How much Queen was hurt by Hell Memories ? The guy is still in flame and traveled some distance with that kick but he didn’t seem that much hurt

Queen is a motherfucking tank.
I've said it before.
The Raid Suit (now the genes awakening) worked as a way for Sanji to compensate his lack in CoA, compared to some of the big league.
But it doesn't seen enough to beat Queen.

Now, here's the thing. Sanji is currently having trouble with the transformation that might take away his emotions. But Hell Memories is an attack completely based around his anger. If he can't feel anger, due to the heart of ice, could it mean that Hell Memories is actually nerfed here?
And the choice of words here "You'll have to find out for yourself" is actually curious.
When Queen first mentioned the Lunarian stuff, I thought it was merely a way Oda created to introduce King's lineage into the narrative, by comparing it with Sanji's DJ, but Sanji would be his own thing. But this here kiiiiiiiiiiiiinda insists on tying Sanji with this Lunarian story.
From a narrative perspective, at this point, Sanji not having some tie with this Lunarian business (don't know how) would be just a cheap ass bait.
That's called "Chekov's gun". It was one thing when Oda made Sanji having a viable matchup against each of the 3 Calamities before (the clash with King, the interest in flying enemies, then Queen mentioning Judge, then Sanji and Jack running to where the Scabbards were), but this is not the same situation. At that point the author was just "mixing" the options, but eventually picked one. Here there's no such thing. Creating this line only to not follow it through later is lame af.
That's why, after this chapter, I genuinely believe that there will be something Sanji + Lunarian lore. What exactly it is gonna be? Who knows.

Btw, priorities first.
Oda, give Sanji the black hair!

 

[RayanOO]

Queen is a motherfucking tank.
I've said it before.
The Raid Suit (now the genes awakening) worked as a way for Sanji to compensate his lack in CoA, compared to some of the big league.
But it doesn't seen enough to beat Queen.

Now, here's the thing. Sanji is currently having trouble with the transformation that might take away his emotions. But Hell Memories is an attack completely based around his anger. If he can't feel anger, due to the heart of ice, could it mean that Hell Memories is actually nerfed here?
And the choice of words here "You'll have to find out for yourself" is actually curious.
When Queen first mentioned the Lunarian stuff, I thought it was merely a way Oda created to introduce King's lineage into the narrative, by comparing it with Sanji's DJ, but Sanji would be his own thing. But this here kiiiiiiiiiiiiinda insists on tying Sanji with this Lunarian story.
From a narrative perspective, at this point, Sanji not having some tie with this Lunarian business (don't know how) would be just a cheap ass bait.
That's called "Chekov's gun". It was one thing when Oda made Sanji having a viable matchup against each of the 3 Calamities before (the clash with King, the interest in flying enemies, then Queen mentioning Judge, then Sanji and Jack running to where the Scabbards were), but this is not the same situation. At that point the author was just "mixing" the options, but eventually picked one. Here there's no such thing. Creating this line only to not follow it through later is lame af.
That's why, after this chapter, I genuinely believe that there will be something Sanji + Lunarian lore. What exactly it is gonna be? Who knows.

Btw, priorities first.
Oda, give Sanji the black hair!

So Sanji and King are distant cousin ? Uncle ? Sora was King cousin ?

Does Judge only knew it ? Because if he didn’t ignore it it’s stupid not letting his kids to have Lunarians genetics.

 

[BleakAsh]

How much Queen was hurt by Hell Memories ? The guy is still in flame and traveled some distance with that kick but he didn’t seem that much hurt

DJ even more mysterious now.. sanji isn't surprised it seems.

he'll definitely show some aces now to put this behemoth down

and btw what if Queen in the last panels meant that sanji will have to find it out..by becoming the reason why Lunarians were feared by tapping into his potential

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So Sanji and King are distant cousin ? Uncle ? Sora was King cousin ?

Does Judge only knew it ? Because if he didn’t ignore it it’s stupid not letting his kids to have Lunarians genetics.

yea that is stupid but what's bizarre is that oda bothered hiding judges eyebrows..when it should in theory be obvious that he had curly brows as well.. unless he had the same pattern as sanji (meaning a failure ).. its either that or Sora and he married with her already bearing these kids and reiju was modified as a kid and not as fetus.

idk Lolda is up to something again

 

[Straight From Laughtale]

IDK but now I need the next chapter to be a Sanji chapter no matter what

 

[RayanOO]

IDK but now I need the next chapter to be a Sanji chapter no matter what

Yeah I want to know how he will overcome Queen durability and pseudo regen. An attack power up is really needed. And Queen like King didn’t show everything they had. I can bet Queen can play with his viruses to boost himself.

and the lunarian/judge/emotions/evil Sanji plot is good

 

[Straight From Laughtale]

Yeah I want to know how he will overcome Queen durability and pseudo regen. An attack power up is really needed. And Queen like King didn’t show everything they had. I can bet Queen can play with his viruses to boost himself.

and the lunarian/judge/emotions/evil Sanji plot is good

I mean dude I am sure Sanji has some powerful attacks that he never used and I crave to see them

 

[Doggo]

I still want to see Sanji using Anti-Manner Kick Course on Queen.
I just love the name of this attack.

 

[Straight From Laughtale]

I still want to see Sanji using Anti-Manner Kick Course on Queen.
I just love the name of this attack.

Sanji is the best

 

[RayanOO]

I mean dude I am sure Sanji has some powerful attacks that he never used and I crave to see them

I don’t know. It seemed hell memories was his best attack from post TS. I know Sanji never had any major 1 vs 1 post Ts and never went completely all out but it would be weird if he had an hidden Ace all along.

 

[Doggo]

My problem with Sanji vs Queen, despite the fact that it is going for several chapters, is that this fight is more "lore based" than "choreography based".

We have a lot of "few panels" here and there with them trading blows. We have Queen shooting lasers, we have Queen using his claws, he have Queen using the sword (and breaking it kekw), but it always feel like Queen is just spamming lasers, because the fight itself is broken into tiny doses throughout several chapters.
They feel like those little update panels from Jinbe vs Whoswho, before we got on the ACTUAL fight chapter. Kinda wasted that the brachio launchers never were used effectively.
But I'm REALLY intrigued to see what is gonna be Sanji's PU. If his attacks MAGICALLY start working and he low diff Queen like the Jinbe vs Whoswho, I'm gonna be so fucking mad, it's actually not even funny.

 

[BleakAsh]

I don’t know. It seemed hell memories was his best attack from post TS. I know Sanji never had any major 1 vs 1 post Ts and never went completely all out but it would be weird if he had an hidden Ace all along.

why would it be weird it he wasn't pushed to use those aces..

lets not forget he has yet to even intensify his kicks..

 

[RayanOO]

My problem with Sanji vs Queen, despite the fact that it is going for several chapters, is that this fight is more "lore based" than "choreography based".

We have a lot of "few panels" here and there with them trading blows. We have Queen shooting lasers, we have Queen using his claws, he have Queen using the sword (and breaking it kekw), but it always feel like Queen is just spamming lasers, because the fight itself is broken into tiny doses throughout several chapters.
They feel like those little update panels from Jinbe vs Whoswho, before we got on the ACTUAL fight chapter. Kinda wasted that the brachio launchers never were used effectively.
But I'm REALLY intrigued to see what is gonna be Sanji's PU. If his attacks MAGICALLY start working and he low diff Queen like the Jinbe vs Whoswho, I'm gonna be so fucking mad, it's actually not even funny.

I don’t think Sanji will magically destroy Queen. The way I see it : Sanji unlocks something to really hurt Queen, Queen is on the backfoot and suffering, then Ice Oni Queen gains the upper hand and they mighty clash between the two with their strongest techniques = Sanji wins

 

[Straight From Laughtale]

I don’t know. It seemed hell memories was his best attack from post TS. I know Sanji never had any major 1 vs 1 post Ts and never went completely all out but it would be weird if he had an hidden Ace all along.

How? I mean he never got to go out at all so on whom could he go out like this? Doffy? he got trapped in doffy's web so didn't get the chance to fight further and other than that here he is today with queen with whom he can go all out

and if this was Sanji's best attack then Sanji should had a reaction like -

But it looks like Sanji have no problem that queen is still fine as new
Sanji's just too cool to care
​

 

[BleakAsh]

My problem with Sanji vs Queen, despite the fact that it is going for several chapters, is that this fight is more "lore based" than "choreography based".

We have a lot of "few panels" here and there with them trading blows. We have Queen shooting lasers, we have Queen using his claws, he have Queen using the sword (and breaking it kekw), but it always feel like Queen is just spamming lasers, because the fight itself is broken into tiny doses throughout several chapters.
They feel like those little update panels from Jinbe vs Whoswho, before we got on the ACTUAL fight chapter. Kinda wasted that the brachio launchers never were used effectively.
But I'm REALLY intrigued to see what is gonna be Sanji's PU. If his attacks MAGICALLY start working and he low diff Queen like the Jinbe vs Whoswho, I'm gonna be so fucking mad, it's actually not even funny.

i agree.. i believe Queen wasn't meant to be sanji's blow for blow intense 1v1.. more like he provides enough to keep sanji on his toes and wondering or bamboozle to an extent .. but doesn't intervene in sanji's character development.....

and his character development hasn't anything to do with fighting capability but its internal conflict..

 

[Straight From Laughtale]

My problem with Sanji vs Queen, despite the fact that it is going for several chapters, is that this fight is more "lore based" than "choreography based".

We have a lot of "few panels" here and there with them trading blows. We have Queen shooting lasers, we have Queen using his claws, he have Queen using the sword (and breaking it kekw), but it always feel like Queen is just spamming lasers, because the fight itself is broken into tiny doses throughout several chapters.
They feel like those little update panels from Jinbe vs Whoswho, before we got on the ACTUAL fight chapter. Kinda wasted that the brachio launchers never were used effectively.
But I'm REALLY intrigued to see what is gonna be Sanji's PU. If his attacks MAGICALLY start working and he low diff Queen like the Jinbe vs Whoswho, I'm gonna be so fucking mad, it's actually not even funny.

Agree

 

[RayanOO]

why would it be weird it he wasn't pushed to use those aces..

lets not forget he has yet to even intensify his kicks..

How? I mean he never got to go out at all so on whom could he go out like this? Doffy? he got trapped in doffy's web so didn't get the chance to fight further and other than that here he is today with queen with whom he can go all out

and if this was Sanji's best attack then Sanji should had a reaction like -

But it looks like Sanji have no problem that queen is still fine as new
Sanji's just too cool to care
​

If Oda pulls something like Sanji hidden card he had all along he could maybe work but I would find that not that good. Waiting so much time to show that Sanji has an OP ability that he never showed before his PU is a bit lame for me.

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I don’t want a flashback PU

 

[Straight From Laughtale]

If Oda pulls something like Sanji hidden card he had all along he could maybe work but I would find that not that good. Waiting so much time to show that Sanji has an OP ability that he never showed before his PU is a bit lame for me.

yeah maybe... Let's wait and see what Oda decides to do with Sanji's fight
Though what he is doing with his character is something I am satisfied with

 

[RayanOO]

Yeah agree Queen vs Sanji really needs a complete chapter of fighting for them and not a panel here and there

 

[Straight From Laughtale]

Me when its a sanji chapter -

 

[BleakAsh]

If Oda pulls something like Sanji hidden card he had all along he could maybe work but I would find that not that good. Waiting so much time to show that Sanji has an OP ability he never shown that he never showed before his PU is a bit lame for me.

atm oda has just been recycling sanji's move sets.. we know sanji on panel has abstained from using a technique against Judge... tru? he might have a completely different set of moves based on what he was about to pull against judge.. and by ace i mean his strongest or top tier attacks or abilities like intensifying his leg in his arsenal which he hasn't been pushed enough yet in post time skip to execute until no atleast or in a life or death battle which he never has

yea if sanji suddenly has a whole new DJ that would be an asspull and lame coz there is no prior development..

but still think there is still alot more he can do with DJ and haki.. or whatever else he learned in Okama kingdom of DJ or haki.