Spoiler One Piece Chapter 970 Spoilers Discussion

[Geo]

What did I say?
Complete relief on Kaido's face. He knew he was about die

 

[Finalbeta]

Well he became a yonkou in these two decades so that is a clear sign of some type of growth

I wonder who he got to fight, I doubt he trained

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

 

[comrade]

2 sword Oden > 1 sword Oden > Prime Kaido > Current Kaido

:yasu:

 

[Ganja userr]

God damn so kaido had to imprison momonouske to beat oden, oden really was a good damn monster holy shit.
Also keep in mind kaido wasn't as strong in wano as he us today.

 

[Blackbeard]

There must be a temple in Onigashima where the old Clone Clone user hag is worshipped everyday by beasts pirates

 

[Sentinel]

Well they did that with far many other characters than Oden.

Which makes it even more ironic and funnier.

 

[pedxi]

2 sword Oden > 1 sword Oden > Prime Kaido > Current Kaido

:yasu:

where is Asura?

 

[Buusatan94]

And yet the mocking of Kaido will stop as soon as he shows his true power in Onigashima.

 

[Jo_Ndule]

Are we now starting that context shit?

What about Fujitora being called a failure for having a single bandage after a fight which we still got NOTHING about?
Why were yonkou fans so fast to judge that one ?

Yeah Admieal Fuji and admiral GB vs Sabo and 3 vet tiers
Fuji still damaged

Comparable to Kaido (pre yonko) fighting Oden

Even though Kaido looks meh here. You are comparing prime versions of current top tiers to a past version of a top tier

 

[Red Admiral]

2 sword Oden > 1 sword Oden > Prime Kaido > Current Kaido

:yasu:

Kaido fans : Kaido is stronger than Roger

Roger:

 

[HA001]

Where was it said this is pre yonko kaido ?

 

[Red Admiral]

And yet the mocking of Kaido will stop as soon as he shows his true power in Onigashima.

let us enjoy

clearly Kaido back then and now are not in same level

but I think Big Mom helped Kaido to power up and become the monster he is now today

I'm 100% sure 20 years ago Big Mom > Kaido ...

 

[Gran D. Master]

where is Asura?

It's too scared to come out in front of Kaido. Only Kaku saw it

 

[Buusatan94]

Which makes it even more ironic and funnier.

This is why I have never taken in account this kind of moments to evaluate a character's power. If it was judged by the character's past defeats, nerfed and ridiculous moments Luffy would still be in East Blue.

 

[Gargo]

Douglas Bullet is stronger than Kaidou ( against Oden ) is now confirmed.

Was Kaidou weaker than Rayleigh too ?

😳

 

[Patryipe]

such a waste.

Disgusting

This is the Kaido who grew to be Number 1 currently?

Just how weak are other top tiers currently .

Teach calling Kaido a monster doesnt even make sense anymore
BM hyping Kaido
Sengoku hyping Kaido and BM
Oden hyping Kaido strength in novels manga , during bouny reveals

They all don't make sense.

What exactly happened in these 20 years for Kaido get such WSC and 1 vs 1 hype , and be Yonko

I expected Oden wank but not this.

Just make Luffy become a Dragon and defeat Kaido
Coz I cant even believe how kaido lasted 38 years in NW with a trash crew

So much for king/queen being above even Cracker
Even Kaido (top1 currently) got wasted

King is actually the real captain of the crew. He's stronger than Kaido. That's why he's the one that went to take care of Meme and his crew.

 

[Deleted member 83]

My new avatar when the chapter officially comes out

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

I wonder who he got to fight, I doubt he trained

You don't need to fight any specific person to become a yonkou... Just gather enough territory and fight a reasonable amount of relatively strong people and get a big enough and strong enough crew and then you become a yonkou

That's how both Blackbeard and Luffy became yonkou.... Given how easily Oden stomped this man, there's no way he would've become a yonkou without getting stronger... He doesn't have to fight a specific top tier or anything, he just has to get strong enough not to get stomped by a nerfed samurai

 

[Buusatan94]

let us enjoy

clearly Kaido back then and now are not in same level

but I think Big Mom helped Kaido to power up and become the monster he is now today

I'm 100% sure 20 years ago Big Mom > Kaido ...

I have no doubt that Big Mom was stronger than him 20 years ago.