Spoiler One Piece Chapter 970 Spoilers Discussion

[MarineHQ]

Admiral fans earlier: “20 years ago Kaido was already in his prime! He didn’t improve at all since then!”

Who in the fuck is saying that?

I made a thread a couple days ago even talking about Flashback Kaido's Power level, while in the same thread i placed CURRENT Kaido at High Top Tier

 

[Zowo]

can t wait king vs zoro

 

[Blackbeard]

Higurashi is really the reason why Kaido and Orochi are alive now.

 

[pedxi]

Wait what is the steam looking smoke coming out of Queen weapon?

 

[Jo_Ndule]

So it seams like Oden won against Kaido, but his retainers lost against the Calamities, which seems fair and logical. Although I think that Ashura, Neko and Inu we able to give them a good fight.

Where did Oden win? Or dominate?
The battle starts with Dragon kaido vs Oden
Then base Kaido vs Oden evenly matched
Kaido wins via distraction.

 

[KINGKONGGUN15]

is the gas around his weapon the same gas from his poison to poison his enemies when he hits them?

 

[ShadyOjiro]

ZOROBOIS WHERE U AT?????
ITS HAPPENING

Na

Enma Is a magic sword

 

[Lifeismeh]

people freaking about because of a panel about something we already knew happened months ago lmao

Oden damaged Kaido big deal, in 5 years Kaido reached Loden lvl lmao, current Kaido would lol diff him

 

[HA001]

Im starting think hybrid kaido is the one we see lol maybe he was a dragon that ate the oni fruit

 

[Ganja userr]

Man i can't wait for the fucking chapter.

 

[Shiroyru]

Who in the fuck is saying that?

I made a thread a couple days ago even talking about Flashback Kaido's Power level, while in the same thread i placed CURRENT Kaido at High Top Tier

Plenty of people on the first pages saying that he was already at his prime or very close to it

 

[Shura]

I could have lost because I’m still growing in power and wasn’t as strong as I am now”

did he say this???

 

[HA001]

people freaking about because of a panel about something we already knew happened months ago lmao

Oden damaged Kaido big deal, in 5 years Kaido reached Loden lvl lmao, current Kaido would lol diff him

The 5 years wasnt kaido getting stronger lmfao it was about turning wano on oden

 

[Finalbeta]

can t wait king vs zoro

It will be fast

 

[Drachenblut]

OK say it with me now:

Admirals > Yonko.

The Admirals were clearly always meant to be endgame antagonists while the Yonko were a last-minute decision because Oda felt there aren't enough strong pirates. Try to debunk this

Some hours ago I wrote this.




"Why can't the people just accept that kaido did not get "much stronger" but just that, oden was equally strong or slightly stronger? That doesn't dehype the yonkos, it just show HOW STRONG roger and wb was, just how strong rogers crew was and just whom the strawhats have to surprass.

End I am highly certain, that with imu and the gorosei, the endgame opponents won't be yonkos or admirals, but them. Meaning, it's veeeery veeeery likely that imu+gorosei > yonkos and admirals.
Which is logical, because luffy and the strawhats have to do that, which roger couldn't, simply because he was not the right one (too early at that time and so on. And it was/is luffy's fate)...
So, the strawhats at the end must be even stronger than the roger pirates, strong enough to take the gorosei on. Considering that, it isn't bad power scaling or story telling but just people interpreting things, that simply do not exist.

E.g. the narration said he got defeated and captured x times and said, on 1 vs 1 people would always bet on kaido. He is on land, sea and sky the strongest creature.

There are just soooo many ways to twist this in the story, to show why he ISN'T THE STRONGEST, which WILL BE DONE.
Come on guys"



To add something, I can't imagine the admirals as the absolute endgame... for example fujitora fighting for imu? For real?

 

[KINGKONGGUN15]

people freaking about because of a panel about something we already knew happened months ago lmao

Oden damaged Kaido big deal, in 5 years Kaido reached Loden lvl lmao, current Kaido would lol diff him

thank you people saying ''LAIDO'' even though we knew oden would scar him

 

[Chrono]

Another blade user that Sanji defeated. And also stronger than T-bone

Sanji defeated a swordsman that is stronger than the one Zoro beat.:holdthisl:

 

[Gran D. Master]

E.Oda : Kaido > Akainu
:holdthisl:

As far as feats and portrayal go tho, Akainu taking a shit is more intimidating than anything the Lonko have done up to this point

 

[CbShadow]

Admiral fans earlier: “20 years ago Kaido was already in his prime! He didn’t improve at all since then!”

Kaido: “If you attacked me 5 years ago, I could have lost because I’m still growing in power and wasn’t as strong as I am now”

Oden was fighting evenly with Base Kaido, and Kaido wasn’t even in his prime yet. Non-prime base Kaido getting stalemated by Oden, a low/mid top tier, changes nothing. He’s still a high top tier and beats anyone alive

We literally saw a scene of Kaido being hurt in the dragon form yet you are going to stick to the whole Kaido was in his base form argument.

 

[JerAx]

can t wait king vs zoro

Ill still think king lowdif zoro,
dude can fly haha