Spoiler One Piece Chapter 970 Spoilers Discussion

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flashback aint trash tho
flaschback trash cause people watch the people they wank to high heaven look human. this w
And say it again with me now: A dying Whitebeard obliterated Akainu.
obliterated?
akainu came back to low diff jimbei ivankov and barely missed a step. while jimbei sent big mom packing like his hoe
 
People who thought Oden was weaker than Doffy and Katakuri are idiots.
oh oden is far stronger, but doffy would manipulate him easily haha

What hostage situation? It'd have to be somebody incredibly important to Oden, but even that would be tough to swallow. People were already suffering throughout the country due to the factories, and Oden would be a fool to think Kaido and Orochi would stick to their end of the bargain. And in the end, Oden still fought Kaido and Orochi. So whatever it was keeping him from acting out wasn't that much of a liability.
bingo he absolutely is

he will eat up any bullshit orochi made
 

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Kaido admitting he'd have been overwhelmed by Wano's forces 5years ago actually goes against the narrative he grew stronger. He was referring to military might

And if 5years ago Kaido was only trying to avoid getting overwhelmed in military, yet 5years later, Oden could individually match if not dominate him, giving him a permanent scar and Kaido needing a distraction from Grandma using Momonosuke's appearance to disturb Oden, to win, it just further shows that 5years prior, Kaido had no chance to win with Hyogoro/Wano's military force


And we know the current scabbards were mentioned to have grown stronger, so just imagine if Oden and the scabbards actually trained during those 5years instead of dancing

It'd have been a massacre in Wano's favor :josad:I'm starting to wonder tho if this Oden didn't have pirate king potential lol
 
admirals fans are letting shit go to there heads again lol. Need we remind them, how admiral finished off YCs at MF. But but awakening, yet no fucks given kaido in base

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What we really should be talking about. How kaido can knock oden cold out in base. While kizaru can't knock out marco while hes at his physical weakest, thanks to dirty tricks(sea stone). So much for the lethality card....
 
No, it's bad writing. Oden knew Orochi was not to be trusted. To suddenly believe him and do nothing about it is contrivance to allow the story to reach its intended point.
is it a bad writing if it is consistent?
he know he is not to be trusted, yet he trust him anyway.
I mean all of this is speculation, you can criticise oda for holding the cliffhanger for long


okay lets say we dont need 5 year... but roger still needs to die and moria still needs to invade.
the bad writing is that when oda forget about them
 
Kaido admitting he'd have been overwhelmed by Wano's forces 5years ago actually goes against the narrative he grew stronger. He was referring to military might

And if 5years ago Kaido was only trying to avoid getting overwhelmed in military, yet 5years later, Oden could individually match if not dominate him, giving him a permanent scar and Kaido needing a distraction from Grandma using Momonosuke's appearance to disturb Oden, to win, it just further shows that 5years prior, Kaido had no chance to win with Hyogoro/Wano's military force


And we know the current scabbards were mentioned to have grown stronger, so just imagine if Oden and the scabbards actually trained during those 5years instead of dancing

It'd have been a massacre in Wano's favor :josad:I'm starting to wonder tho if this Oden didn't have pirate king potential lol
mind you kaido has been a yonko for 6+ years
and thats minimum
people really feel like he grew into a monster in the next 14 or so years at max and this isnt close to his prime despite
being a pirate for about 20 yrs pirates before this event. This aint rookie kaido lmao.
 
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What I see

Kaidou: Yes that’s right...*Worororo* Everything was a lie. At the time we concluded that we were at a disadvantage. You returned to Wano, so if per chance you joined hands with Hyougoro...all of Wano’s Samurai & chivalrous folk would have been our enemies. So it’d have most likely been a tough battle for us that were short on man power at the time.

What most of you see

Kaidou: Yes that’s right...*Worororo* Everything was a lie. At the time we concluded that we were at a disadvantage. You returned to Wano so I needed 5 years to train cuz I was too weak and couldn't win a duel against you.
ps. My crew sucks ass and Jack hmm I mean Lack is still a Kid!!
 
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