Spoiler One Piece Chapter 970 Spoilers Discussion

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Jo_Ndule

Moria was yonko lvl since current Kaido is equal to FB Kaido lmao

imagine having the third biggest bounty in the entire manga to only be weaker than Oden lmao
:choppawhat: Oden > all top tiers currently
Oden has 4.8 billions bluntly

Makes sense :
Yonko level Moriah for losing midd/high diff against Pre Yonko Kaido
Yonko level Mihawk for fighting pre Yonko shanks evenly
Oden Extra Yonko/FA level for matching Kaido
 

Bogard

You can't win
Not you too. This must be a group troll lol
I'm only stating facts. Whether Kaido became stronger or not during the last 20years so far is baseless since it's not mentioned anywhere in the manga

Everyone has a peak of strength, and when he reaches that peak of strength, he stops growing, and with age, and sickness, he can even grow weaker. We just don't know when Kaido reached his peak of strength yet

And considering Kaido is from a older generation than Shanks who was already a yonko 6years ago, it makes it debatable
 
Neat but just for curiosity.

Scarring Kaido same as Oden what proves if happens?

That at least in one aspect he would be close to Oden?or what?
Haki wise probably. But I don't see him fighting toe to toe against kaido.
That looks too much of a jump for me. But him scarring kaido is a possibility, I don't reject that idea as much as some do.
I actually think it's a big possibility.

For some reason, I always picture kaido in the sky in his dragon form bore breathing the shit out of everything and then sanji sends zoro in the air with his "armee de l'air" (not sure if it's the good name for that technique) and zoro ends up cutting him up, and stopping his shit. That would be epic.
 
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Jo_Ndule

It says Moria weakened Kaido army but no kaido himself.

plus we know Kaido murdered all his crew...

Luffy weakened Big Mon army ....yet BM is intact.
Luffy didnt weaken BM army.
Moriah lost and ran away from NW.

Bein intact means nothing, if you lost the war
BM never lost vs Luffy
Moriah did. Losing crewmates and ambition.

New PL :
Oden>=Kaido>=Moriah>top tiers currently
 
Haki wise probably. But I don't see him fighting toe to toe against kaido.
That looks too much of a jump for me. But him scarring kaido is a possibility, I don't reject that idea as much as some do.
I actually think it's a big possibility.

For some reason, I always picture kaido in the sky in his dragon form bore breathing the shit out of everything and then sanji sends zoro in the air with his "armee de l'air" (not sure if it's the good name for that technique) and zoro ends up cutting him up, and stopping his shit. That would be epic.
Toe to toe ? Lmao no.

Nice view tho!

Thanks.
 
It says Moria weakened Kaido army but no kaido himself.

plus we know Kaido murdered all his crew...

Luffy weakened Big Mon army ....yet BM is intact.
The fight with Moria crew weakened Kaido crew, if Moria crew can do that it only make sense that he could give a good fight against Kaido, there's no reason to deny this feat anymore, Moria was a challenge to Kaido back then
 
Luffy didnt weaken BM army.
Moriah lost and ran away from NW.

Bein intact means nothing, if you lost the war
BM never lost vs Luffy
Moriah did. Losing crewmates and ambition.

New PL :
Oden>=Kaido>=Moriah>top tiers currently
Luffy did weakened BM army what you are talking.

His YC1 and YC3 were defeated ,his plan to get the Germa was frustrated, his whole country was devastated with his own Queen destroying it, several of his children lost , the Fishman also left her etc.

Luffy did weaken her army.....

Big Mon only coming with few of his children to Wano is the solid proof.
 
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