Spoiler One Piece Chapter 970 Spoilers Discussion
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Top tier MoriahWhose Bounty was frozen at 320 billions
A man who rivaled Kaido is given a low bounty below high tier Luffy pre fs!
Top tier pirates have 1 billion at least.
When Jack hae 1 billions yet Moriah who fought Kaido had only 320 (prior being frozen)
Moriah was at best high high tier.
Which placed Kaido as low top max 23 years ago
who is yc1 cause he lifted rocks .
are we going to stay consistent?
Shanks? No reason for you to think that, given the story.
Never said Oden wasn’t supremely strong. I object to a large sect of fanboys trying to use these spoilers, which were vastly misinterpreted to begin with, to try and say that Zoro will do to Kaido what Oden did, when Zoro is nowhere near where Oden was then, and Kaido is nowhere near where he was then.
It’s been 2,000+ posts of fanboyism, even when it was proven wrong by the detailed spoilers. That’s the only thing this reaction is about. It doesn’t even have to do with Oden. Just fanboyism of another character.
You missed the point of the comparison.
All of the warlords are, but that wasn’t the point. None of that is related to the point. The point is that 20 years ago, the gap between Moria and Kaido wasn’t significant. Unlike now. And they both tie into Luffy.
1.) Here we go with the plot conveniences nonsense. Everything is a plot convenience. Stop using them as a basis for your argument.
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Mm.
3.) There is nothing that suggests Moria was significantly weaker than he was then. Given the track of the story, and every other example of development over time, it’s much more logical that Kaido was significantly less then than what he is now, you know, “when you actually read the manga correctly.”
Never said Oden wasn’t supremely strong. I object to a large sect of fanboys trying to use these spoilers, which were vastly misinterpreted to begin with, to try and say that Zoro will do to Kaido what Oden did, when Zoro is nowhere near where Oden was then, and Kaido is nowhere near where he was then.
It’s been 2,000+ posts of fanboyism, even when it was proven wrong by the detailed spoilers. That’s the only thing this reaction is about. It doesn’t even have to do with Oden. Just fanboyism of another character.
You missed the point of the comparison.
All of the warlords are, but that wasn’t the point. None of that is related to the point. The point is that 20 years ago, the gap between Moria and Kaido wasn’t significant. Unlike now. And they both tie into Luffy.
1.) Here we go with the plot conveniences nonsense. Everything is a plot convenience. Stop using them as a basis for your argument.
2.)
Mm.
3.) There is nothing that suggests Moria was significantly weaker than he was then. Given the track of the story, and every other example of development over time, it’s much more logical that Kaido was significantly less then than what he is now, you know, “when you actually read the manga correctly.”
I personally dont see how this relates to zoro
and if I missed the point of the comparison . what was it?
oh and I am saying I believe kaido grew. just not as significant as people think. when kaido became a yonko is also a good marker. seems like he did for a while given his bounty. prob after killing oden he became a yonko not long after. after all at that point he had secured wano.
and if I missed the point of the comparison . what was it?
oh and I am saying I believe kaido grew. just not as significant as people think. when kaido became a yonko is also a good marker. seems like he did for a while given his bounty. prob after killing oden he became a yonko not long after. after all at that point he had secured wano.
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the WG doesn't fear Kaido and BM that much to be honest that is why they cooperate with indirectly their bounties are more or less are there for the others to not mess with them and don't dare to search for road poneglyphs the WG is gonna regret their defeat as well. after all Kaido is helping them keeping Wano closed . no one dares to challenge them , but Luffy is most reckless one out there and at the end he will earn too much of that and the WG will be at loss here.
Agree it should be a op form but all what we get from Kaido in that form was either his attack get easily dodged, he getting pummeled or get a scar by a enemy. And he isn´t even a normal ancient user as Jack who hasn´t special ability, he is after all a fucking dragon who is large as a mountain(compare to the panel where he stand with his army their). Expect more of this full dragon form Kaido, hope it change later in the fire festival war.
How would end the battle with Katakuri and Luffy if Kata would do the same as Kaido, probably with the lose of Luffy most like. But you can´t have everytime top class pirates as Katakuri who fight fair at least. But be honest I never expect such a move of Kaido, I always see him the guy who don´t let help himself by others in a battle as Katakuri, well I was wrong...
Now I want to see if Oden also use advanced CoA in that chapter. Hurting Kaido he still a big deal, don´t thing a normal CoA(black hardening) is enough to damage after all Kaido.
Agree with you in the point that Zoro shouldn´t pass Oden in this arc if we count the feats of Oden and his powerlvl(at least low top tier-mid top tier).
How would end the battle with Katakuri and Luffy if Kata would do the same as Kaido, probably with the lose of Luffy most like. But you can´t have everytime top class pirates as Katakuri who fight fair at least. But be honest I never expect such a move of Kaido, I always see him the guy who don´t let help himself by others in a battle as Katakuri, well I was wrong...
Now I want to see if Oden also use advanced CoA in that chapter. Hurting Kaido he still a big deal, don´t thing a normal CoA(black hardening) is enough to damage after all Kaido.
Agree with you in the point that Zoro shouldn´t pass Oden in this arc if we count the feats of Oden and his powerlvl(at least low top tier-mid top tier).
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well i really think they will go down together. then Oda doesn't have the time to make another arc for BM , they might be separated though by stalling or another tricks , so that Luffy take one after the another. then i still believe Luffy will be the only one who have attacks powerful enough to finish them
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LoooL
Redon:
This spoiler is FAKE, Orochi doesn't appear in all the chapter and Kaidou Vs. Oden is only the 2 pages that appeared in Spoilers. Be careful
http://forums.arlongpark.net/showthread.php?t=54597&page=19
Redon:
This spoiler is FAKE, Orochi doesn't appear in all the chapter and Kaidou Vs. Oden is only the 2 pages that appeared in Spoilers. Be careful
http://forums.arlongpark.net/showthread.php?t=54597&page=19
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