Powers & Abilities Sanji, raid suit and invisibility

ZenZu

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Read what I said:
It's invisibility. There's no indication of it being speed anywhere. Never seen Oda draw speed in that manner. There's usually lines indicating displacement or movement.
This chapter he drew it exactly like I mentioned above. Completely different from the last time he disappeared, very clear motion lines indicating movement. If it turns out the last one was also movement then it's bait writing on Oda's part. He purposefully drew it wrong/differently (as invisibility vs movement) to trick the audience, a cheap writing tactic so his audience draws the wrong conclusion. Now he went back to drawing it the way it should have been drawn in the first place, no one would be having this debate if he did the same the first time, anytime an author does something like this it shows a lack of their own creativity.

Either that or it was still invisibility the first time around.
 
Read what I said:


This chapter he drew it exactly like I mentioned above. Completely different from the last time he disappeared, very clear motion lines indicating movement. If it turns out the last one was also movement then it's bait writing on Oda's part. He purposefully drew it wrong/differently (as invisibility vs movement) to trick the audience, a cheap writing tactic so his audience draws the wrong conclusion. Now he went back to drawing it the way it should have been drawn in the first place, no one would be having this debate if he did the same the first time, anytime an author does something like this it shows a lack of their own creativity.

Either that or it was still invisibility the first time around.
Boy you gotta read, because you were WRONG and I told you why lol. You just don't listen and can't take an L with grace.

"A cheap writing trick to draw the wrong conclusion" that several of us called immediately.
 
You were wrong as well, you know. You thought Niji could use invisibility, Queen confirmed it's just Stealth Black's thing. And why tagging nik87 when he too thought Sanji used invisibility ? This isn't a Zoro vs Sanji thread so no reason to ask for a pat on the back from other Zoro fans.

That being said, yes, Sanji didn't turn invisible, I was wrong about that and I can admit without feeling any shame. And I want to add that I apologize for having been to categorical about this whole thing, the way Oda drew Sanji disappearing made me genuinely think there was no way it could be super speed. Last chapter made it clear it was super speed because Oda drew speed lines instead of this weird effect resembling water evaporation in chapter 1031 (that and characters saying it clearly, of course).
 
You were wrong as well, you know. You thought Niji could use invisibility, Queen confirmed it's just Stealth Black's thing. And why tagging nik87 when he too thought Sanji used invisibility ? This isn't a Zoro vs Sanji thread so no reason to ask for a pat on the back from other Zoro fans.

That being said, yes, Sanji didn't turn invisible, I was wrong about that and I can admit without feeling any shame. And I want to add that I apologize for having been to categorical about this whole thing, the way Oda drew Sanji disappearing made me genuinely think there was no way it could be super speed. Last chapter made it clear it was super speed because Oda drew speed lines instead of this weird effect resembling water evaporation in chapter 1031 (that and characters saying it clearly, of course).
The people tagged and not quoted can pull up with popcorn. However they lean, they were also right


Queen said nothing about Niji btw, but I never insisted on camouflage tech or whatever. The point is that he has stealth abilities that don't have an indication of sheer speed unless he just says "stealth" when he approximates Soru
 
The people tagged and not quoted can pull up with popcorn. However they lean, they were also right


Queen said nothing about Niji btw, but I never insisted on camouflage tech or whatever. The point is that he has stealth abilities that don't have an indication of sheer speed unless he just says "stealth" when he approximates Soru
He said invisibility was Stealth Black's ability so you were wrong about invisibility being something Sanji's siblings can use.

Popcorn for what, exactly ? Like I said, you tagged nik87 who thought Sanji used invisibility in chapter 1031. So I'm really curious to know what you're celebrating exactly.
 
He said invisibility was Stealth Black's ability so you were wrong about invisibility being something Sanji's siblings can use.

Popcorn for what, exactly ? Like I said, you tagged nik87 who thought Sanji used invisibility in chapter 1031. So I'm really curious to know what you're celebrating exactly.
Because he would probably enjoy the goofs. Like anyone can be wrong but the "obviously he's using invisibility" "look at the sfx" type shit is hilarious.

Again, Niji is irrelevant also. Because we straight up saw him say "stealth" and disappear. Queen says nothing about how he does it, just that invisibility is Sanji's signature RS power. Queen doesn't use rocket boots or a spear, etc. so it's silly to define Germa by him.
 
We see the zip lines along with the dialogue. You can even see Sanji panting to go along with what Queen says... before Sanji explicitly acknowledges super speed while saying nothing about invisibility.

Are you in denial?
The vanishing Zip lines?.. With the puffing effects stll there?.. He's listing his abilities that he already has from the timeskip training on top of the new exoskeleton and combining all togheter, basic CoA, Strenght, Exoskeleton and High Speed Movements..

Sanji was panting before that after he got hit by Queen many times..
Yeah because he's not aware he has invisibility without the suit?..
 
The vanishing Zip lines?.. With the puffing effects stll there?.. He's listing his abilities that he already has from the timeskip training on top of the new exoskeleton and combining all togheter, basic CoA, Strenght, Exoskeleton and High Speed Movements..

Sanji was panting before that after he got hit by Queen many times..
Yeah because he's not aware he has invisibility without the suit?..
Oh you're not in denial, Queen and Sanji are
 
Oh you're not in denial, Queen and Sanji are
Why wouldn't Sanji be able to replicate invisibility from the suit if he got exoskeleton from it too?..
It makes more sense that Sanji can use invisibility unconciously than a yc2 not being able to spot him because he's so fast.. Queen would be a complete joke..

And with Niji, his stealth technique aside, how do you explain that he used electric move without raid suit?..
 
Why wouldn't Sanji be able to replicate invisibility from the suit if he got exoskeleton from it too?..
It makes more sense that Sanji can use invisibility unconciously than a yc2 not being able to spot him because he's so fast.. Queen would be a complete joke..

And with Niji, his stealth technique aside, how do you explain that he used electric move without raid suit?..
Sanjis just that fast. And Sanji wasn’t fully transformed. Hence his hair still yellow and emotions in check
 
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