Powers & Abilities Sanji, raid suit and invisibility

[Sir Yasheen]

He's not shown to be that fast before.. There's no partial transformation, his genes awakened or not, its everything or nothing..
This chapter has shown that gene manipulation had no effect on emotions, it was fake tension..

Yes he has? It’s the same ability he showed in WCI

 

[BOCCHI]

Sanji’s linage factor should either provide invisibility like how his brothers can use their abilities without the suit or DJ aka fire is his ability. It shouldn’t be tied with the RS cuz his brothers ain’t tied to them.

 

[Rootbeer]

Yes he has? It’s the same ability he showed in WCI

It's not, in WCI the readers can see him in 2 distinct panels, which is consirably slower than Soru.. In the recent chapter he's constantly hidden.. Also with movements there's intent, Queen should be able to sense Sanji with CoO..

 

[Fn Lucci]

Why wouldn't Sanji be able to replicate invisibility from the suit if he got exoskeleton from it too?..
It makes more sense that Sanji can use invisibility unconciously than a yc2 not being able to spot him because he's so fast.. Queen would be a complete joke..

And with Niji, his stealth technique aside, how do you explain that he used electric move without raid suit?..

Even your Sanji senpai is trying to talk sense into you.

The RS doesn't GIVE powers, it activated his latent powers. So if he wasn't programmed with invisibility then there's no reason to believe he would have it from the RS. What makes more sense than anything id abandoning your headcanon.

Niji could use electric because he has electric powers. Sanji doesn't.

 

[Rootbeer]

Even your Sanji senpai is trying to talk sense into you.

The RS doesn't GIVE powers, it activated his latent powers. So if he wasn't programmed with invisibility then there's no reason to believe he would have it from the RS. What makes more sense than anything id abandoning your headcanon.

Niji could use electric because he has electric powers. Sanji doesn't.

Sanji was programmed just like his brothers to have an exoskeleton and powers like them, the drug didn't cancel those it made them dormant.. Exoskeleton was not his only latent power.. Give powers or activated his latent powers, end result is the same..

 

[Lunaria]

Because he would probably enjoy the goofs. Like anyone can be wrong but the "obviously he's using invisibility" "look at the sfx" type shit is hilarious.

Again, Niji is irrelevant also. Because we straight up saw him say "stealth" and disappear. Queen says nothing about how he does it, just that invisibility is Sanji's signature RS power. Queen doesn't use rocket boots or a spear, etc. so it's silly to define Germa by him.

Queen knows what Sanji's brothers can do. He knows Ichiji can use laser beams, he knows Niji can use lightning, he knows Yonji can stretch his arms. There's no reason he wouldn't know they can use stealth if that was the case. He said nothing about a "signature move", he only said invisibility was Stealth Black's power.

"He would probably enjoy the goofs" = he's in Zoro camp and Zoro fans won. You're making it about Zoro vs Sanji without outright saying it, but it's not about Zoro vs Sanji. He was wrong too and so were you. Maybe it'd be a good thing to admit his own mistakes before making fun of people and telling them to take their L.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

It's not, in WCI the readers can see him in 2 distinct panels, which is consirably slower than Soru.. In the recent chapter he's constantly hidden.. Also with movements there's intent, Queen should be able to sense Sanji with CoO..

The reader sees it because we saw things from his perspective it’s much faster than Soru. And Sanji spent two years running and hiding from CoO users. He probably knows how to mask his presence like the Minks.

 

[phatltse62882]

How hype if the screen will happen in the future:
Kizaru: Kuro ashi have u ever been kicked by the light speed?
Sanji's answer: Kizaru-san have u ever been kicked by the thing faster than the light speed?

 

[Rootbeer]

The reader sees it because we saw things from his perspective it’s much faster than Soru. And Sanji spent two years running and hiding from CoO users. He probably knows how to mask his presence like the Minks.

Soru would have insta teleported to Oven, we wouldn't have seen Sanji make acrobatic rolls, that's slower than Soru..
Saying Sanji can mask his presence like the Minks is a stretch, he wasn't hiding, he escaped in the air with Sky walk..

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Soru would have insta teleported to Oven, we wouldn't have seen Sanji make acrobatic rolls, that's slower than Soru..
Saying Sanji can mask his presence like the Minks is a stretch, he wasn't hiding, he escaped in the air with Sky walk..

You get that Soru is just a special way of running? We saw Sanji moving because we were watching from Sanjis point of view. Are you seriously trying to say that Gear 2 luffy is faster than sanji...

 

[Rootbeer]

You get that Soru is just a special way of running? We saw Sanji moving because we were watching from Sanjis point of view. Are you seriously trying to say that Gear 2 luffy is faster than sanji...

Soru's not running it's leaping.. Hitting the floor multiple times to get to a another place.. Gear 2 is easily faster than Sanji..
We were watching from Sanji's perspective while Oven had the time to speak a whole sentence in between..

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Soru's not running it's leaping.. Hitting the floor multiple times to get to a another place.. Gear 2 is easily faster than Sanji..
We were watching from Sanji's perspective while Oven had the time to speak a whole sentence in between..

Dude gear 2 is no where’s near as fast as sanji. Gear 2 is tracked by fodder fishmen. Sanji can’t be tracked by a Commander…

 

[Rootbeer]

Dude gear 2 is no where’s near as fast as sanji. Gear 2 is tracked by fodder fishmen. Sanji can’t be tracked by a Commander…

Yeah not sure this commander is worth his title he's a complete joke.. If it's speed and not invisibility, then Sanji would be as fast as Gear 2, but it would make more sense if its invisibility than speed..

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Yeah not sure this commander is worth his title he's a complete joke.. If it's speed and not invisibility, then Sanji would be as fast as Gear 2, but it would make more sense if its invisibility than speed..

Sanjis just faster than Gear 2 significantly. And yeah he’s worth 1.3 billion berries. He’s shown skills that makes him well above the likes of Jinbe

 

[Rootbeer]

Sanjis just faster than Gear 2 significantly. And yeah he’s worth 1.3 billion berries. He’s shown skills that makes him well above the likes of Jinbe

Nothing shows that Sanji is faster than gear 2.. And this is not a Jinbei vs Sanji discussion..
I think Sanji turned invisible in this chapter, until further details.. I know a lot of Sanji fans want Sanji to have incredible speed to counter Zoro whos supposedly mostly strenght or whatever but that's not the case here..

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Nothing shows that Sanji is faster than gear 2.. And this is not a Jinbei vs Sanji discussion..
I think Sanji turned invisible in this chapter, until further details.. I know a lot of Sanji fans want Sanji to have incredible speed to counter Zoro whos supposedly mostly strenght or whatever but that's not the case here..

The chapter literally outright states it. You’re just in denial.

 

[Rootbeer]

The chapter literally outright states it. You’re just in denial.

Sanji's speaking of his WCI speed which is the speed he developed in the timeskip training, with his strenght and CoA.. What's new is he's adding all that with the new Exoskeleton..

While Queen is assuming, he's moving fast and burning stamina, does Queen know the Vinsmoke brothers can use their abilities to some extent without the suit?..

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Sanji's speaking of his WCI speed which is the speed he developed in the timeskip training, with his strenght and CoA.. What's new is he's adding all that with the new Exoskeleton..

While Queen is assuming, he's moving fast and burning stamina, does Queen know the Vinsmoke brothers can use their abilities to some extent without the suit?..

Very likely because he studied Germa science.

The speed is something he's had. The only thing the exoskeleton is adding is more defense so he can use more fire on his leg without hurting himself. The exoskeleton does not make him invisible.

 

[vikas]

Gear 2

 

[Heinrich]

I honestly preferred Sanji going "invisible" this way via his own speed and techniques than due to Stealth Black.