Spoiler One Piece Chapter 970 Spoilers Discussion

[Albino 👑]

I hope people will stop hyping zoan animal forms from now on. People used to put them on par with hybrid forms. That's OBVIOUSLY WRONG, based on this & Jack vs minks chapters.

Whos ever hyped the animal forms to be equal to the hybrid form lol
Thats crazy if people believe that

 

[sanjikun]

Oden is at worst inbetweener, at best Low top tier (average admiral) like Prime Ray.

Base Kaido AP is just crazy, a clean strike finishes you.

He was about to 2-shot Kaido.... How is that "at best Low Top Tier"

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

There goes Mihawk fans who were saying Oden used one blade and Yoru can do the same.

This battle wasn't even a battle

Oden was fighting kaido hencmen, kaido was attacking the castle
Oden attacks Kaido offguard and scars him
Kaido falls
Oden thinks he won and then he gets fooled by the old hag
Kaido catches Oden offguard and oneshots Oden

So this is another Jozu vs Kuzan
A superior fighter getting a free hit means game over

Both damaged each other with free hits offguard

Oden attack with Enma couldn't K.O Dragon Kaido, he was naive to think he won there.
Kaido only needs one hit to Finish Oden.
Both of their feats were offguard free hits.

And Calamities didnt even look impressive vs retainers. King had to sneak attack Shuten.

So this is the legendary Kaido vs Oden?
Battle of Free hits/catching the other offguard

We were all fooled thinking Oden didn't cheapshot Kaido
We thought Oden was dominating and both were matched
It turns our Oden got a free hit. Kaido didn't defend nor was he focused on Oden.

Except Mihawk Blade>>>Oden

 

[OmegaPsyche]

I dont ever see roger or white beard or akainu ( aka pirate king level fighters) getting one shotted

Do u see Old Sengoku getting one shotted? Cause he da weakest top tier. If he don't get one shotted then Oden ain't top tier, simple as that.

 

[Homelander]

Lmfao the hypocrisy. You guys kept saying how could Boundman be Low/Mid Admiral level when Kaido "one shot" him. I kept explaining that even guys like Fujitora/Rayleigh wouldn't be able to eat that attack cleanly, and if Luffy's FS was working properly, he'd avoid it.

Oden didn't even eat a Thunder Bagua. It was just a base hit. And this dude was about to kill Kaido.

Clearly oden was on another level.

I think that kaido vlub is something btw one hit he can batshit the opponent.

I get the feeling luffy will destroy it.

 

[MonsterZoro]

Chaden was mentioned in the same breath as WB and Roger by Kaido

Oden=Rayleigh confirmed. Dont know whos stronger but they're definitely yonko and admiral league.

Oden is stronger than rayleigh and way more important than him. Oda made it clear oden can only be taken out by Rayleigh + scopper combined.

 

[sanjikun]

I hope people will stop hyping zoan animal forms from now on. People used to put them on par with hybrid forms. That's OBVIOUSLY WRONG, based on this & Jack vs minks chapters.

You guys literally have no clue.

The Zooan form is physically STRONGER than Hybrid form. The Hybrid form is just FASTER than Zooan form and more agile.

 

[Jo_Ndule]

Since Kaido winning via cheapshot is cancelled by the fact Oden didnt a cheapshot too
Oden himself wanted to kill a drunk Kaido but his plans were exposed.

The traitor is shinobu! She is playing both Kozukis and Kurozumis

 

[MonsterZoro]

Garp and Sengoku will never get one shotted ever

Do u see Old Sengoku getting one shotted? Cause he da weakest top tier. If he don't get one shotted then Oden ain't top tier, simple as that.

Post automatically merged: Jan 31, 2020

This sandman new summary may change the perspective little bit...

damn, even Kaido acknowledged the Oden and at the same time Roger and WB.....

link it

 

[Rmstorm]

Which panel ?? Can you show me.

Third page, look at Kaido and hsi retainer. Kanjuro is facing the otherside.

 

[Albino 👑]

Luffy will be the first person we see tank multiple hits from the one hit club on screen

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

Woah so Oden cut off Kaido skin with both swords? Judging by the panel Oden seems now using advanced CoA as Roger did in the flashback, Oden learn it under Rogers crew.
At this point I don't think even that Kaido face Roger but just Garp who punch him down. Roger advanced CoA was insane strong and would deal more damage to Kaido overall.

But Oden did it very well though against Kaido and he also get praised again shich get put to top tier lvl alongside legends.
Kaido feat aren't bad either, even if it was a cheapshot, hurting that much Oden with just one attack(it wasn't even a thunderclap attack) is a very nice feat.

But the fight was really fast over, so Oda didn't even skip anything but he make the battle short. Oden vs Kaido without any distract would be kinda nice though but we know Oda saving it for later.

 

[OmegaPsyche]

Whos ever hyped the animal forms to be equal to the hybrid form lol
Thats crazy if people believe that

They said they have more durability than hybrid forms & are faster than hybrids, in exchange for losing ability to use hands. That was da argument.

 

[nik87]

Lmfao the hypocrisy.

The rubber MC has no excuses for not tanking it.

 

[Pantheos]

Itd be funny if oda made it be raizo only because hes arguably the only ugly scabbard lol

funny yeah, but why did Raizo then hide at Zuo? He could have just let Jack get rid of everything there and wait for Momo.

 

[King7]

Now i think any sword can injure Kaidou ..... from 21 Great Grade and up at least , as long as the user has enough strength to do it

I dont ever see roger or white beard or akainu ( aka pirate king level fighters) getting one shotted

Oden actually ate Kaido's Heat Breath as well

 

[MonsterZoro]

I can honestly seeing oden go from Yonko commander level to Yonko level after being with roger/whitebeard 5 years and then another 5 years from the failed plan. Thats a lot of time gone by he isn't just gonna sit a round. He got inspired by the roger and white beard fight. I think oden surpassed Rayleigh and Scopper gaben who are only sitting at admiral level.

 

[sanjikun]

The rubber MC has no excuses for not tanking it.

 

[Lifeismeh]

Kaido attack power is insane lmao

Kaido could've probably defeated Oden without help, Oda just wanted Oden to look decent here lol

 

[Jo_Ndule]

You guys literally have no clue.

The Zooan form is physically STRONGER than Hybrid form. The Hybrid form is just FASTER than Zooan form and more agile.

Being stronger and useless in a fight makes the form weaker than the other.

Zoan form is sure stronger physically but overall it is weak for 1 vs 1 battle

Sanjikun you should stop thinking "having strength " means you are automatically strong
What matters is how good that form is against skilled fighters
This is why g4 Boundman was useless and less effective against Cracker or Katakuri.

Hybrid >base>Zoan kaido
Hybrid form is always the trump card of zoans