Powers & Abilities Queen proves that Shiryu’s DF is dogshit

#46
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compare niji's use of lightning to enel's goro goro no mi and review the thread you just made.


stealth black/roronao tier thread
Eh i don't really think thats a fair comparison
Like niji/minks use electricity enel is electricity and can use it to a way larger extent
Same with kinemon to ace, kiku to monet, etc.

Queens science tech makes him invisible. Shiryu's fruit makes him invisible
Shiryu can make other objects and people invisible like absalom could do. Which is definitely a plus that queen doesn't have. But specifically queen/stealth black making himself invisible shouldn't be better or worse than shiryu doing the exact same

Unless he can also be intangible too than obviously him making himself invisible is significantly better
 
#47
Eh i don't really think thats a fair comparison
Like niji/minks use electricity enel is electricity and can use it to a way larger extent
Same with kinemon to ace, kiku to monet, etc.

Queens science tech makes him invisible. Shiryu's fruit makes him invisible
Shiryu can make other objects and people invisible like absalom could do. Which is definitely a plus that queen doesn't have. But specifically queen/stealth black making himself invisible shouldn't be better or worse than shiryu doing the exact same

Unless he can also be intangible too than obviously him making himself invisible is significantly better
can use it to a way larger extent
rest is meaningless to me

what you have just highlighted is that
there are levels to df use if thats not clear. ..........
point made.
 
#51
Actually what Queen just proved is that he is a dogshit.. lol.
Not a haki fighter or at least to combine the powers properly.
It's not like he is weak or something but he lacks a lot of stuff that strong fighters have..
His reaction speed is none to be found.
Him using invisibility and at the same time makes himself vulnerable attacking a woman just for giving her a lesson and give away his position was tragic to say at least.
Sanji himself used that ability way better even though he barely knew about it.
So no shyriu's df it's not a dogshit.
And before sanji vs Queen many people hype the fight between sanji and shyriu because they thought that sanji would fight king..
People should stop the hate..
 
#52
apparently in the ace novel thatch claimed thats the one BB wanted while he was wrong, its interesting thats the fruit that was mentioned.
BB's crew are on the hunt for wicked abilities ,not just any fruit so its interesting than the most terrifying pirate's n2 got that fruit
one which we assume oda has revealed the capabilities of prets so why would he bring it back?


oda isnt going to have shiryu show just what absalom did , that would be repetitive
the fruit already allows you to make anything(your environment?) you are in contact with invisible so what are the plans to awakening
what is the potential of the fruit in the hands of a capable user?
thats what you should be asking because that may well be terrifying .


comparing sanji , queen knockoff to it or absaloms disgraceful use of it is most likely not how this goes.


and this thought process is well in line with zoro his most likely opponents development.
will he be harder to cut because he is more durable than kaido or king? hard to cut for someone who can coat his swords in coc?
likely not
if it can be imperceptible beyond the realms of reg coo that is most likely the intention. No matter the attack power if you cant detect where he is
you arent touching him.

and ps he will be much stronger than king
much stronger than this zoro eow
its just how opponents are .
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#53
in every crew/organization, the superior fighters get the stronger fruits/abilities.

and catarina devon, shiryu's inferior, has a mythical zoan. that alone shows that there is a lot more to the invisibility fruit than what meets the eye lmao.

that fruit is being mad underrated just because it was introduced early in the series.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
#54
Yeah but it would be weird if Shiryu can awaken a DF that he’s had for one month when Luffy has had his DF since he was 5 and still hasn’t awakened it

How an ability will work depends on oda or specifically it's about how user use it.


What you have seen is basic invisibility which doesn't correlate to the numerous abilities given by a df.

It's like comparing a pond with a river system


Primary difference comes from the narration itself - Invisibility is just making yourself disappear while suke suke no mi is termed as Clear Clear Fruit/Clear Human.


The dimensions are very broad in this scenario - Hiding your senses making it difficult even for CoO user to detect your presence, Invisible Slashes, disappearing anything you are in contact with and so on


Suke suke no mi can make a swordman more lethal which in itself is huge plus.
 
F

Formerly Seth

#56
Queen’s tech let’s him turn invisible just as well as Shiryu, and that’s just one of the many features of Queen’s tech. The RHM of a future PK+ level character has a DF that provides much less benefits than Queen’s tech.
Depends. It's just a shitty copy of actual abilities that exist.

Actual DF's invisibility > copied stealth ability.

You get the shit. We will see what Oda will do with Shiryu's fruit.
 
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stealthblack

#57
Oda recyle pre ts villains fruits, not even main villains, for guys that are the Raftel matchea of SHs roflbriliant writing

BB himself got quake fruit and darkness so that is Cool
But zoro's enemy is now abslom rofl


Devon has mr2 power, not same fruit but does exact same thing

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#58
in every crew/organization, the superior fighters get the stronger fruits/abilities.

and catarina devon, shiryu's inferior, has a mythical zoan. that alone shows that there is a lot more to the invisibility fruit than what meets the eye lmao.

that fruit is being mad underrated just because it was introduced early in the series.
It has to be special, because adCoC Zoro needs a challenging opponent. I dont think Shiryu will have CoC, so his DF can be the only advantage against Zoro. Common sense.
 
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stealthblack

#60
Pacifista proves Pika Pika is dogshit
Kizaru can spam way more lasers, pacifista just has the default laser finger( same way You would get just the gomu no pistol of luffy but not gears) can turn into light himself, has speed of light
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You convinced me. Cook will fight Shiryu and Zoro will fight Aokiji at Raftel, then. Deal? :milaugh:
Great so You guys think both mihawk and aokiji are villains and legit pirate aokiji. Next You Tell me luffy will fight Dragon eos because he is evil, or maybe garp
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Depends. It's just a shitty copy of actual abilities that exist.

Actual DF's invisibility > copied stealth ability.

You get the shit. We will see what Oda will do with Shiryu's fruit.
Sanji fighting absalom shows the tech based invisibility is the same thing. He easily found absalom
 
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