Questions & Mysteries Enma Is Not Taking On Kaido

[nik87]

Oars isn't kaido. The forces in presence are not the same here, the straw hats are not the same as back then.
Different time, different story, different outcome.

In a way he is even harder to beat than Oars.
Tougher, cannot be harmed by many.
Regeneration of awakened Zoan, Queen recovered in minutes from BM beating.
Can actually harm Luffy unlike Oars.
Unparalleled physical strength.

The only points Oars had is size(paired with speed, he wasnt an easy target like Dragon form Kaido) and zombification which allowed him to ignore any damage until the point the body structure was falling apart. Then there is Luffy whose G4 has a time limit and with new Haki blasting technique he is spending more Haki than ever. How do you expect him to beat Kaido in 1vs1, lol?

 

[Enma]

Two Opponents are already fair enough if we are being realistic. King + be it Kyoshiro/Orochii. I am not even sure he will get even these 2 clear cut, i.e without any form of help or interference.

Orochii df form could still be stronger. It's mythical zoan, don't forget.

He will be Hero in Wano citizen eyes. For its not Kaidou, that is ruling Wano or has claims of beating Oden, bt Orochii. Orochi is the one publicly boiled Oden or shot Yasu, and Is ruling Wano for last 25+ years and has set up factories and ruined Wano. So whoever beats him will be hailed as Hero of Wano by Common citizens.

Last arc, Even Sanji, Jinbei n Bege got the credit and they didn't beat no one of note. So beating King, the 2nd strongest and Orochii, the 2nd antagonist of Wano arc will easily get Zoro enough praises.

Okay, so.

Maybe it is fair, but there are possibility that Kyoshiro is an ally, so -1 fight. And i even if he's an enemy, i don't consider him as strong as Zoro, especially Enma Zoro.

You really want me to believe that Orochi is strong? Even in his hybrid form, he's still a coward who shit his pants and can't even block/dodge a slash from nerfed Zoro. Would it be Orochi like in that Luffy vs Kaido/Zoro vs Shogun Fan-Made, i would agree with you.

King is only fight when Zoro can be pushed to his limit, but... after all his fights, even after a harsher from Mr.1, Zoro was fine, so why should King be different? Zoro beats King, stands and go to cut Kaido.

Okay, fair enough. But still not enough to be recognized as the second Ryuma, don't you think?

From who? All cheers got Luffy as usual.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

In a way he is even harder to beat than Oars.
Tougher, cannot be harmed by many.
Regeneration of awakened Zoan, Queen recovered in minutes from BM beating.
Can actually harm Luffy unlike Oars.
Unparalleled physical strength.

The only points Oars had is size(paired with speed, he wasnt an easy target like Dragon form Kaido) and zombification which allowed him to ignore any damage until the point the body structure was falling apart. Then there is Luffy whose G4 has a time limit and with new Haki blasting technique he is spending more Haki than ever. How do you expect him to beat Kaido in 1vs1, lol?

You said it. He can't be harmed by many. I see only luffy and zoro being able to do it and law via his df.
So it doesn't really matter how many will fight him if they can't do any damage.
Except if they all learn ad coa in those 2 weeks.
And it was never said that luffy is using more haki with the ad coa, I actually think it's the opposite since it comes from a better control over his haki.

 

[Finalbeta]

You said it. He can't be harmed by many. I see only luffy and zoro being able to do it and law via his df.
So it doesn't really matter how many will fight him if they can't do any damage.
Except if they all learn ad coa in those 2 weeks.
And it was never said that luffy is using more haki with the ad coa, I actually think it's the opposite since it comes from a better control over his haki.

Zoro will be the only one learning advanced CoA and thanks to the training he is undergoing. Letting anyone else do that would definitely bad writing.

Him and Luffy are going to tag team the monster

 

[Luffy is the mc]

Zoro will be the only one learning advanced CoA and thanks to the training he is undergoing. Letting anyone else do that would definitely bad writing.

Him and Luffy are going to tag team the monster

I don't know if he'll learn the same haki as luffy or one that is a swordsman speciality. Maybe it's the same. Anyway I do think he'll be able to hurt kaido. But I don't see a proper tag team.
Zoro will be busy fighting King. I'll see him more doing something like he did against Arlong, but with more efficiency.

 

[nik87]

You said it. He can't be harmed by many. I see only luffy and zoro being able to do it and law via his df.
So it doesn't really matter how many will fight him if they can't do any damage.
Except if they all learn ad coa in those 2 weeks.
And it was never said that luffy is using more haki with the ad coa, I actually think it's the opposite since it comes from a better control over his haki.

You dont need advanced coa to harm Kaido. Kidd can significantly hurt him with enough metal at his disposal. Oden didnt have advanced CoA and still harmed Kaido significantly. Law has the abilities to harm him. Hawkins is a wild card. Zoro has the best abilities to harm him, anything that Luffy does to him he can probably recover from shortly considering that Awakened Zoans are famous for fast recovery.

 

[Finalbeta]

I don't know if he'll learn the same haki as luffy or one that is a swordsman speciality. Maybe it's the same. Anyway I do think he'll be able to hurt kaido. But I don't see a proper tag team.
Zoro will be busy fighting King. I'll see him more doing something like he did against Arlong, but with more efficiency.

It would actually be nice if Zoro learned his own personal way for advanced haki.

Maybe Oda will show us swordsmanship can be combined with that kind of haki in unique ways.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

It would actually be nice if Zoro learned his own personal way for advanced haki.

Maybe Oda will show us swordsmanship can be combined with that kind of haki in unique ways.

I always thought it was that special kind of haki that could turn a blade black, that's why only skilled swordsman can achieve that.
It would be hype if zoro and mihawk were the only ones to have that type of haki. It would make their last fight epic.
But I don't think it'll be the case.

 

[Finalbeta]

I always thought it was that special kind of haki that could turn a blade black, that's why only skilled swordsman can achieve that.
It would be hype if zoro and mihawk were the only ones to have that type of haki. It would make their last fight epic.
But I don't think it'll be the case.

That's the final stage of advanced CoA I think. The one that lets you blacken your weapon.

I think Zoro will definitely do that and challenge the Grandgrandmaster in an epic clash by EoS. :3

 

[nik87]

And it was never said that luffy is using more haki with the ad coa, I actually think it's the opposite since it comes from a better control over his haki.

It wasnt stated but I thought it was obvious. You blast Haki away, that means it is gone.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

It wasnt stated but I thought it was obvious. You blast Haki away, that means it is gone.

It's not obvious at all. The haki is more concentrated in one place, it's the opposite, he uses his haki with more accuracy and efficiency.
Coating seems more tiring on the body and requires more haki to be used.

 

[Jo_Ndule]

We will come back in 10 chapters
Zoro isn't touching any emperor or any commander

He has no business there for now

 

[nik87]

It's not obvious at all. The haki is more concentrated in one place, it's the opposite, he uses his haki with more accuracy and efficiency.
Coating seems more tiring on the body and requires more haki to be used.

When coating the Haki stays inside the body, blasting is literally throwing it away, lol. How is it not obvious?

 

[Enma]

We will come back in 10 chapters
Zoro isn't touching any emperor or any commander

He has no business there for now

In 10? I doubt they will arrive to Onigashima at that moment and you're talking about fights

 

[Luffy is the mc]

When coating the Haki stays inside the body, blasting is literally throwing it away, lol. How is it not obvious?

The coating doesn't keep it inside. You are still using haki. Otherwise luffy would have no problem using G4 indedinitely.

 

[nik87]

The coating doesn't keep it inside. You are still using haki. Otherwise luffy would have no problem using G4 indedinitely.

It keeps it inside but you have a point on it being used constantly, at least in G4. However, blasting throws Haki away every punch he does and you have to use a significant amount to deal some damage. Rayleigh's blast on elephant used significantly more haki than Hyo's blast on Alpacaman. Paired with G4, haki blasts are bad news for the duration of the gear because he will burn through Haki more than ever.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

It keeps it inside but you have a point on it being used constantly, at least in G4. However, blasting throws Haki away every punch he does and you have to use a significant amount to deal some damage. Rayleigh's blast on elephant used significantly more haki than Hyo's blast on Alpacaman. Paired with G4, haki blasts are bad news for the duration of the gear because he will burn through Haki more than ever.

That's why he'll maybe use a new G4 form, less taxing on the body and easier to combine with advanced CoA.

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

Okay, so.

Maybe it is fair, but there are possibility that Kyoshiro is an ally, so -1 fight. And i even if he's an enemy, i don't consider him as strong as Zoro, especially Enma Zoro.

You really want me to believe that Orochi is strong? Even in his hybrid form, he's still a coward who shit his pants and can't even block/dodge a slash from nerfed Zoro. Would it be Orochi like in that Luffy vs Kaido/Zoro vs Shogun Fan-Made, i would agree with you.

King is only fight when Zoro can be pushed to his limit, but... after all his fights, even after a harsher from Mr.1, Zoro was fine, so why should King be different? Zoro beats King, stands and go to cut Kaido.

Okay, fair enough. But still not enough to be recognized as the second Ryuma, don't you think?

From who? All cheers got Luffy as usual.

Kyoshiro could be the ally hence the slash Orochii.
And Kyoshiro already proved himself to be worthy foe when he no sell Zoro attacks n even mocked him with that Grin.

Yup, Orochiu himself is fodder. Bt like i said his df is the mythical zoan. That itself is strong.

You remember Luffy vs Katakuri? How difficult that fight was, it continued for 10 hours and what condition Luffy was in after that fight.
And you are expecting Zoro to come out of King fight and slash Kaidou, like he came out of Mr1 fight?
We both know this is going to be hardest fight for Zoro ever been, with Zoro putting everything in to beat King and still might need PUs or help to achieve victory.

Maybe Not.
Bt then again, do every expectations are met as exactly we want Oda to? No.

I rather think only reason Orochii has mythical zoan is for the same, his Zoan form will recieve hype and Zoro will slash it to complete two or more pieces like he did with Pica. If he draws it epic, Zoro could be recognised as second Ryumma, its dpnd on how Oda sells it.

 

[HA001]

Kyoshiro could be the ally hence the slash Orochii.
And Kyoshiro already proved himself to be worthy foe when he no sell Zoro attacks n even mocked him with that Grin.

Yup, Orochiu himself is fodder. Bt like i said his df is the mythical zoan. That itself is strong.

You remember Luffy vs Katakuri? How difficult that fight was, it continued for 10 hours and what condition Luffy was in after that fight.
And you are expecting Zoro to come out of King fight and slash Kaidou, like he came out of Mr1 fight?
We both know this is going to be hardest fight for Zoro ever been, with Zoro putting everything in to beat King and still might need PUs or help to achieve victory.

Maybe Not.
Bt then again, do every expectations are met as exactly we want Oda to? No.

I rather think only reason Orochii has mythical zoan is for the same, his Zoan form will recieve hype and Zoro will slash it to complete two or more pieces like he did with Pica. If he draws it epic, Zoro could be recognised as second Ryumma, its dpnd on how Oda sells it.

Kata hit luffy 54 times.
54.
Theres no chance king or zoro can have a fight where they constantly land hits and still be fighting hours later.

Orochi is not a dragon. Orochi is a snake
And if oda wanted zoro to go for orochi he would have given him the ame no habikiri the snake slayer sword the sword literally famed in japan for slaying the yamata no orochi

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Killing Orochi wll not make Zoro the second Ryuma