Who will be the next Strawhat


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By analysing the story, we can see that they are 10 big parameters of construction with different range of importance that all the strawhats are sharing.

For each parameters, I will distribute a few points relatively to their importance.

Here are the 10 pillars of construction for a strawhat:

  1. The quirk. 1 point because it's quite common in One Piece.
  2. The fighting skill 1 Point, it's quite common.
  3. The antagonistic introduction. 2 Points because it impact the narration interestingly.
  4. The multi layered characterization. 3 Points, Interesting but quite common.
  5. The symbolic reach. 3 Points because it impacts the storytelling in an interesting way.
  6. The Strong character arc. 4 Points because strong character arc are in fact quite rare.
  7. The hint of a recrutment. 4 Points. I'll explain in detail what this parameter is about.
  8. The hint of 3 driving forces. 5 Points, you will understand why.
  9. The post. 5 Points, this is one of the most important parameter
  10. The Shining Nakama Action. 6 Points, this is the icing on top of the wedding cake

The quirk

Like most of the character in One Piece the strawhats can be both serious and hilarious. That why each members of the crew have one or more funny quirk related their characterization. Those quirks are here to emplify the comedic aspect of the story but it is also a tool to add interactions and storylines.


Let's see that in the crew

  • Luffy is the captain of the crew, but he is most of the time completely childlish.
  • Zoro is a pirate hunter who always gets lost
  • Sanji is a gentleman who is completely dominated by his love for women
  • Nami is an intelligent navigator but she is completely overwhelmed by the stupidity of her crewmate
  • Usopp is a God afraid of everything
  • Franky is a giant Cyborg with changing hairs and shiny nipples
  • Chopper is a monster acting like a child, making him often completely clueless about certain situations, also he can't hide properly
  • Robin is a silent spy who is very imaginative but in a sadic way, still, she loves cute things.
  • Brook is always joking about is lack of bodypart even tho this is very sad.
  • Jinbe is always formal, meaning that he can have strange reactions in certain serious situations like asking to name a battle plan before the execution.

Concerning our 5 characters...

On this one all the characters beside Marco gets one point. Indeed the comical aspect of Marco as not been introduced yet.

  • Tama is a little girl who has quirky reactions in front of danger, mostly when Luffy is in danger.
  • Momo is a perverse man with a fear of danger that makes him transform into a Heel.
  • Yamato is a confused individual who has strange reaction with people when she tries to impersonnate her idol.
  • Carrot is a bunny teenager who is completely in love with adventure, Carrot loves to mimic the strawhats, mainly Chopper and she gets furiously savage when someone take her Carrots, but pat her and she will be happy again. She is also completely clewless most of the time

Points:

Marco : +0 (0)
Tama : +1 (1)
Momonosuke : +1 (1)
Yamato : +1 (1)
Carrot : +1 (1)

This is how a good analaysis work.. breaking down one by one each parameters.. This was the first one. the 1rst most objective parameters that all the strawhat are sharing.. As you can see.. right now.. it's pretty even as the parameters are pretty regular in the story.

Now, follow THIS link to get to the rest (blog). And you will understand why Carrot is objectively, the best candidate right now.. and that without even taking the real narration into account, just the obvious patterns.

Really. instead of asking me the evidence, you should just take a look.

If that's not enough.. I will copy paste the rest here.
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and yet something you fail to understand. That arbitrary little goal system you developed. Means Nothing.
 
and yet something you fail to understand. That arbitrary little goal system you developed. Means Nothing.
Yes it does. That "little goal system" are the most objective and narrative parameters related to ALL the strawhats.

Those parameters are important because EACH of them plays a narrative role into the characterization of said strawhat, by himself and through the crew.

Those are therefore the most logical parameters to take into account when discussing the similarity between the strawhat .. in order to predict the recrutment of one of them.

You can reject the obvious if you don't want to listen because it hurt your narrative and agenda.... it won't make those dissapear.

I didn't choose them, Oda did.

And in the end, if you keep blinding yourself, you will only be met with dissapointment.

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For example, you will have hard time understanding why Yamato is not recruted by Luffy at the end of Wano.
 
Carrot’s in the new opening. She’s just invisible. Another clear example of Oda’s masterly use of subverting expectations.
No. You’re wrong. This is an example of bad faith argument. Carrot hasn’t been shown to be able to be invisible. She’s in her sulong form and glides really fast from 1 frame to another for the whole opening, that you all can’t see her wonder. Only me, an ultimate Carrot fan, can see that she does that. You need to see the context of the opening to subvert expectations as a surprise factor
 
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No. You’re wrong. This is an example of bad faith argument. Carrot hasn’t been shown to be able to be invisible. She’s in her sulong form and glides really fast from 1 frame to and another for the whole opening, that you all can’t see her wonder. Only me, an ultimate Carrot fan, can see that she does that.


Hope I represent it fair enough
Lol no you are just being toxic for the fun of it xD
 
Yes it does. That "little goal system" are the most objective and narrative parameters related to ALL the strawhats.

Those parameters are important because EACH of them plays a narrative role into the characterization of said strawhat, by himself and through the crew.

Those are therefore the most logical parameters to take into account when discussing the similarity between the strawhat .. in order to predict the recrutment of one of them.

You can reject the obvious if you don't want to listen because it hurt your narrative and agenda.... it won't make those dissapear.

I didn't choose them, Oda did.

And in the end, if you keep blinding yourself, you will only be met with dissapointment.

:fujilaugh:

For example, you will have hard time understanding why Yamato is not recruted by Luffy at the end of Wano.
You are not Oda, Therefore your little system has no merit.
 
Mr. Berry Rich, it's nice to see you again :catsweat:
Good to see you too Topi Jerami :catsweat:Been awhile since OJ.

I see you are not a fan of Yamato. :brootea:
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There is no proof of that. Until further data, Carrot is the studient of PEdro, therefore one of the most trained Mink in the whole island.
Pedro may have other students besides being Pedro's student doesn't mean she is a Top 10 Mink.

Yes it was stated taht Carrot had a a special gift for the Sulong ability. Check the Vivre card of Carrot ;) Plus it's logical, Carrot is only 15, she might be (and surely is) the youngest of all the mink is both the musketeer and the gardians squad reunited. Carrot's rival the SUlong ability of Character like Wanda who is much older or even Shishilian.
Hmm... well the Vivre Card says she learned with control young so she is ahead of the curve in that respect. It doesn't say her Sulong form multiplies her base more than other Minks. My point still stands as of her being a genius isn't stated. It is your implication.

Sulong enhances the base. Base Carrot <= Base Wanda < Base Sicilian.
This two data plus one of the setup in chapter 889, makes me think that Carrot has the potential to uncover the true power of the Sulong, that power being.. unleashing the form without the moon.
Doesn't seem likely. Visible full moonlight seems to be the power trigger. Chopper had to use a Rumble Ball for years for his transformations.
Remember there are two reason that made Carrot lose :

- The narration, Oda had a message to display
- The lack of moon

Without that.. There was no debate that Carrot actually had a shot
Sulong Carrot AND Sulong Wanda had a shot not singular Carrot.
Indeed but Carrot has the potential to go for it.

Indeed, for that I think we will have to wait. But the power is there.

Hm.. There is a lot of Room for that. For starter:

- The sulong without the light of the moon would definitely be a power up. indeed, the Sulong is just a form buried deep into the subconscient of the Mink.. it wouldn't be far fetch to think that a powerful mink could be able to access it without the light of the moon.. The moon being in that case just a memory trigger.
Carrot has not been displayed as a powerful mink. The trigger could be the moonlight energy so the moon must be visibly seen for transformation. This possibility you present has no allusion from the material. If it were just a memory trigger, than the Minks could just look at a picture of a full moon to transform or envision it in their mind.

- Carrot could also grow her haki and develop a strong armement Haki which would enhance her Sulong and base technics.
What Haki? Carrot doesn't posses any. Not saying she couldn't develop it but her having haki at age 15 seems unlikely as someone with that capability IMO would be treated as more capable.
- Carrot could also developp a capacity to fly in base form (we know she can float in base and fly in Sulong, but not strictly fly in base) This would be a logical take on the story of the Rabbit told by Oda in the preface of volume 8

- Carrot could develop a stronger electro, with long range attacks. Something maybe similar to Kamehameha. Imagine KaCarrot in full Sulong mode, concentrating her Electro to make a giant ball full of electricity that she could play with like a volley ball, with the help of her flying ability and speed.. "With a name like Celestial planet" or something like that. I'm mean.. That would be so dope..

- Carrot could increase her speed to such an amount that her electricity and her would make one giant missile of lighting..


I mean.. there is so much Oda can play with it's infinite.
Infinite sure but not probable. Lightning Kamehameha is awesome but why give that to Carrot? Why not Dog or Cat?
Well, that's what appears in chapter 888, even the strawhats call her strategy brilliant.

It would depend on the context of the fight.

Well i'm not an electrician, but it seems like the voltage can be increased.. some electro shot seems more hurtfull than others.
Electro has been displayed poorly IMO. So much potential but has been underutilized.
Same, it highly depends on the context. He would suffer long before that. but yeah, Jinbe can surely wistand the electro for a bit.

It never leaves my mind.
Jinbe is not losing to Carrot be her Strawhat or not.
 
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The big issue with Carrot joining at this point, is that narratively could be great...
But it feels as bad as Drake still doing nothing xD
It simply doesnt look right for the majority of the fans, even being narratively logical...
 
Lmao, you have a lot to learn.
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No, you have a lot to learn. You are not the one making the final decisions. Your little rabbit is irrelevant to the story. Pedro had and will always be more relevant.
Your narrative is nothing but wishful thinking and a great deal of bias. Give it up, even children would realize this.
 
Pedro may have other students besides being Pedro's student doesn't mean she is a Top 10 Mink.
Unlikely. Carrot is one Mink with a green cape. Meaning that she is the only musketeer with "a guardian hearth", that should mean that she was the only musketeer trained by a guardian.


Hmm... well the Vivre Card says she learned with control young so she is ahead of the curve in that respect. It doesn't say her Sulong form multiplies her base more than other Minks. My point still stands as of her being a genius isn't stated. It is your implication.
You are right, genius my be a stretch but it's a logical appreciation when ther VIvre card says that "The mastery of Sulong to such a young age is unusual"

Tho I didn't said that Sulong was multiplying her base ability.


Doesn't seem likely. Visible full moonlight seems to be the power trigger. Chopper had to use a Rumble Ball for years for his transformations.


Carrot has not been displayed as a powerful mink. The trigger could be the moonlight energy so the moon must be visibly seen for transformation. This possibility you present has no allusion from the material. If it were just a memory trigger, than the Minks could just look at a picture of a full moon to transform or envision it in their mind.
Yes she was. by being put against Zoro first. Oda narratively made a point about her strenght. Plus, remember what the light of the moon is. It's just the sun reflection on the moon. There might be more to the Sulong transformation that just that.

What Haki? Carrot doesn't posses any. Not saying she couldn't develop it but her having haki at age 15 seems unlikely as someone with that capability IMO would be treated as more capable.
Why not ? Being able to use Sulong at the age of 15 is also unlikely. So having Haki for Carrot wouldn't be a stretch.

Infinite sure but not probable. Lightning Kamehameha is awesome but why give that to Carrot? Why not Dog or Cat?
Because Carrot's Sulong design might be directly inspired by Goku's Saiyan 3 form. The Sulong being also inspired by the Ozaru transformation, giving Carrot a form of Kamehameha would be more that fitting. (and mega cool lol)

Also remember, we are talking here of the case if Carrot was a future strawhat. In that matter, she is bound to surpass the capacities of Inu and Neko in term of originality.

Also this would not be such a stretch as Carrot's Electrical Luna begin also like a Kamehameha at first



Electro has been displayed poorly IMO. So much potential but has been underutilized.
I wouldn't say poorly but I agree yeah
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No, you have a lot to learn. You are not the one making the final decisions. Your little rabbit is irrelevant to the story. Pedro had and will always be more relevant.
Your narrative is nothing but wishful thinking and a great deal of bias. Give it up, even children would realize this.
Lmao I don't even know why I reply to you, it's completely useless, you are unable to understand

Feel like in your case, you will have to experience the reality of the writings of Oda.

So sad..
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The big issue with Carrot joining at this point, is that narratively could be great...
But it feels as bad as Drake still doing nothing xD
It simply doesnt look right for the majority of the fans, even being narratively logical...
Narratively carrot is logical, and she has done more in whole cake that Brook in his own arc of recrutment. So there is no reason to feel that Carrot joining is unearned. Now.. being absent from an arc doesn't negate what has been written. The narration doesn't forget.

And we are not talking here about a real recrutment, just a joining by stowaway. Carrot's moment will come after that.
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Shit goin backfired I promise you that
They have no idea:hihihi:
 

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Unlikely. Carrot is one Mink with a green cape. Meaning that she is the only musketeer with "a guardian hearth", that should mean that she was the only musketeer trained by a guardian.




You are right, genius my be a stretch but it's a logical appreciation when ther VIvre card says that "The mastery of Sulong to such a young age is unusual"

Tho I didn't said that Sulong was multiplying her base ability.








Yes she was. by being put against Zoro first. Oda narratively made a point about her strenght. Plus, remember what the light of the moon is. It's just the sun reflection on the moon. There might be more to the Sulong transformation that just that.



Why not ? Being able to use Sulong at the age of 15 is also unlikely. So having Haki for Carrot wouldn't be a stretch.



Because Carrot's Sulong design might be directly inspired by Goku's Saiyan 3 form. The Sulong being also inspired by the Ozaru transformation, giving Carrot a form of Kamehameha would be more that fitting. (and mega cool lol)

Also remember, we are talking here of the case if Carrot was a future strawhat. In that matter, she is bound to surpass the capacities of Inu and Neko in term of originality.

Also this would not be such a stretch as Carrot's Electrical Luna begin also like a Kamehameha at first



I wouldn't say poorly but I agree yeah
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Lmao I don't even know why I reply to you, it's completely useless, you are unable to understand

Feel like in your case, you will have to experience the reality of the writings of Oda.

So sad..
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Narratively carrot is logical, and she has done more in whole cake that Brook in his own arc of recrutment. So there is no reason to feel that Carrot joining is unearned. Now.. being absent from an arc doesn't negate what has been written. The narration doesn't forget.

And we are not talking here about a real recrutment, just a joining by stowaway. Carrot's moment will come after that.
Uhhh...Carrot is the only musketeer who uses guardian gloves. Pedro is/was the only guardian who uses/used a sword.

Carrot had no talent in swordsmanship so Pedro taught her how to use the gloves.
 
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