Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1037 Spoiler Discussion

[Sadistic Senpai]

Really?....it didn't happen with Shanks though....

He blocked a magma punch intended for freaking Koby, great congrats… let’s see him do that with his more fierce attacks.. or is he gonna ask gorosei for protection lol

 

[MonsterKaido]

Kaidou changes to his hybrid form and uses a new battle style.

Kaidou: "“Warai Jogo” (Laughing Drunk Mode - 輪雷上戸 (わらいじょうご))!!!"

Then Kaidou hits Luffy with his kanabo.

Kaidou: "Woororo!!
“Ragnaraku!!!” (Ragnaraku - 引奈落 (ラグならく))!!!"

Kaidou's attack has been so strong that people on the Live Floor see how part of the roof collapses. Luffy suffers the blow, Kaidou hit him on the forehead.
@Hades

 

[ConquistadoR]

If its Red Roc in chapter 1000 i can agree about, but in this spoiler it's Roc Gatling which clad with skysplitter CoC right? I'm quite certain this version of Roc attack is clearly stronger.

You're most probably right. I would say the 103 Mercies Dragon Damnation, the finisher Zoro used on King is also stronger than Ashura Farce of the Dead he used on the rooftop.

That's a pretty nerfed version with 30 broken bones and with unconscious Conquerors coating (?). Conscious Conquerors coating attacks are stronger.

 

[Julius]

Luffy is literally 1v1-ing the WSC and is making his eyes go out with simple G3 Gatling moves coated with Conquerors Haki.

If you think Adv.CoC is not the biggest AP boost in the series, then I don't know what to say.

Thats not because it is Adv.CoC at all, its because this is Luffy and the Main Character

The Adv.CoC is an excuse to make him much stronger than he should be, it doesn't mean it works the same way around for everyone, or that Adv.CoC is some divine shit that you absolutely need to have in order to be strong or fight another CoC user or even beat him

 

[Hades]

Luffy is literally 1v1-ing the WSC and is making his eyes go out with simple G3 Gatling moves coated with Conquerors Haki.

If you think Adv.CoC is not the biggest AP boost in the series, then I don't know what to say.

This is the problem with people lol...they follow binary rule....either 0 or 1 for them for everything....

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Base Luffy can low diff yc1s now lol

 

[ConquistadoR]

Thats not because it is Adv.CoC at all, its because this is Luffy and the Main Character

Yes, and the powerup he recieved which enabled him to do so is Advanced Conquerors Haki.

I can see why you're downplaying it right now since you're fav didn't get that powerup. But the rules don't change - Advanced Conquerors Haki is by far the strongest AP boost in the series bar none - no matter what the character is. The potency of Conquerors Haki varies though.

 

[Rayleigh-Sama]

Can current luffy defeat rooftop luffy + rooftop zoro???

 

[soheilhazrat]

Can current luffy defeat rooftop luffy+zoro???

Yes he is on kaido's level and kaido defeated these two + killer kidd and law

 

[MonsterKaido]

Yes he is on kaido's level and kaido defeated these two + killer kidd and law

Luffy doesn't have Kaido's defense

 

[ConquistadoR]

This is the problem with people lol...they follow binary rule....either 0 or 1 for them for everything....

Same users will make 10s of threads and 100s of arguments for their favourite to get Conquerors and Advanced Conquerors

 

[soheilhazrat]

Luffy doesn't have Kaido's defense

He is tanking Adv.CoC attacks easily

 

[uyuu]

You mean the panels where King tried to abandon his style of fighting to please Zoro?

Luffy and Kaidou laughing was cringe too


Waiting for Tama taming Kaidou its gonna be the peak fiction

 

[Hades]

problem is that even kata and luffy fight took 9 10 hours , luffy learned FS end of the fight . and he cannot use this COO to win battle. Again he used G4 snakeman which he improved in training island. Luffy got KOed with two show by Kaido . No continiously fight. And he said i got it you use coating coc . Okay that is easy i am making now.

All haki learning won't work in a same way.....Luffy learnt coating and applied with CoC...while FS won't develop that way...even now if you see Luffy is more proficient in using CoC than FS.....FS require utmost focus while CoC coating requires "control"....so, there is no comparison....

Dof is more than 40 yeaars old , Kata is 48 years old . even katas mom is emperor . They dont know how to use coc coating in many years since childhood . But luffy got it directly and applying instanly. make sense ?

That just talks about their potential......who knows maybe they can or atleast if Oda shows Katakuri he can use it as Katakuri has thrown away his facade.....Luffy didn't get it directly....he learnt CoA coating and applied with CoC.....

Problem is not storyline thing. Zoro dont event have a little idea how to manage fight. But he learned in the desperate moments he has advanced coc . all wanokuni fight depends on luck . Like lets go guys . in the middle of fight , we can take powerups no worry.d That is just funny.

Zoro with the help of enma developed or awakened CoC coating....he can't control it yet at his will.....he will once he becomes king of hell or whatever it is.....it is not luck.....why do you associate development with luck......

She used DF awakening unnecessarily.

yeah sure, now getting serious is unnecessary right?...

Just one hit with advanced CoC smash kid and law .

Law and Kid endured more than just to get KOed by one hit adCoC ......besides, fight is ongoing, so all complaints are redundant at this point of time

 

[Julius]

Yes, and the powerup he recieved which enabled him to do so is Advanced Conquerors Haki.

I can see why you're downplaying it right now since you're fav didn't get that powerup. But the rules don't change - Advanced Conquerors Haki is by far the strongest AP boost in the series bar none - no matter what the character is. The potency of Conquerors Haki varies though.

That still doesn't explain why Zoro needed Adv.CoC to beat a non CoC user

Or why the heck Luffy is the only one being praised as the worthy opponent by Kaido, before and after the CoC coating, even after the "Top Tier Adv.CoC user" Yamato fought Kaido

Bringing Sanji here just reinforces my argue, he will beat opponents close to the ones Zoro will beat, or equal by the EoS, with or without CoC coating, know what im sayin?

By the end of the series we may have non Adv.CoC users just as strong as Adv.CoC users, or more.

I see that ability as something much more deeply connected to the character itself, like Zoro for example, this is related to his willpower to reach his dream and make his name "reach the heavens", such a great willpower that he literally uses that as an offensive power.

Thats about it

 

[MonsterKaido]

He is tanking Adv.CoC attacks easily

Yeah but he doesn't have regen like him plus sword attacks are lethal

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Luffy is calling all of his new attacks Roc and he used Red Roc before AdCoC, so I'm starting to think that Zoro can and will use King of Hell attacks without CoC. These new styles aren't specific to a form of haki.

 

[uyuu]

yeah with CoC coating but Kaido ultimately dominated him.....

You have to tell me the source of your avy man it looks majestic

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Kaido better have awakening cause Luffy didnt use g4 yet

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

there's a difference between serious things and things that you take seriously, for example:
exams are serious by nature so it's very hard to enjoy taking them
video games are fun by nature, you don't need to take them seriously, but you can if you want

there are characters who enjoy fighting, and there're character who fight because they need to, in my reading experience i can't recall seeing luffy having a fun fight against a villain, he always fights and gets stronger out of necessity, this is a first, it seems out of character, but it's not really that big of a deal to me.

Luffy is shown smiling throughout alot of his fights. Kaido just happens to be the one to point out that the reason he is smiling, is because he enjoys it.