Character Discussion We really dont care if Sanji is weaker than Zoro.
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I don't see it that way;
Power - Power - Zoro and sanji have always had similar physical strength, while zoro carried buildings with his arms in alabasta, sanji lifted giant monsters with the strength of his leg, and that has never changed until then.
Defense (durability & endurance) - Zoro has more resistance feats but zoro would never do what sanji did in cap 1028 breaking queen's sword with his neck without haki, zoro would die, you're shrinking exoskeleton for no reason, i put sanji easily as the most durable.
Stamina - Zoro might have an advantage here but sanji now has a regenerative factor, I don't know how Oda is going to work it out but I wouldn't say zoro easily wins.
Haki - Zoro is definitely superior in this regard.
Lethality - zoro, the swordsman who never killed anyone
Speed - Sanji
I would say zoro wins in a fight, but I don't see a huge advantage.
Power - Power - Zoro and sanji have always had similar physical strength, while zoro carried buildings with his arms in alabasta, sanji lifted giant monsters with the strength of his leg, and that has never changed until then.
Defense (durability & endurance) - Zoro has more resistance feats but zoro would never do what sanji did in cap 1028 breaking queen's sword with his neck without haki, zoro would die, you're shrinking exoskeleton for no reason, i put sanji easily as the most durable.
Stamina - Zoro might have an advantage here but sanji now has a regenerative factor, I don't know how Oda is going to work it out but I wouldn't say zoro easily wins.
Haki - Zoro is definitely superior in this regard.
Lethality - zoro, the swordsman who never killed anyone
Speed - Sanji
I would say zoro wins in a fight, but I don't see a huge advantage.
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i never disagreed about algorithms all i said was debate posts do negligible compared to amvs, trivias, manga art exhibition posts, anime/manga recommendation lists, anime video clips etc when it comes to attracting audience
i as a consumer do have a clue of what I'm talking about.. debates not only barely show up main stream but are of no entertainment to folks who don't even know about the story or series.
all they do is add to the exposure everything relate to the title does mainstream.. and exposure doesn't necessarily bring audience.. BUT MASS EXPOSURE DOES COLLECTIVELY
debates ain't shit at the end of the day
i as a consumer do have a clue of what I'm talking about.. debates not only barely show up main stream but are of no entertainment to folks who don't even know about the story or series.
all they do is add to the exposure everything relate to the title does mainstream.. and exposure doesn't necessarily bring audience.. BUT MASS EXPOSURE DOES COLLECTIVELY
debates ain't shit at the end of the day
We just disagree then. Go through all of their feats post TS. Zoro and Sanji without being bias. Just look at the feats next to eachother and give your opinion. I’ll list a few without listing any bad feats to downplay Sanji.
Sanji:
1. Kicks Oven faster than the eye can see.
2. Knocks P1 around in the RS however he didn’t defeat him.
3. Defeats YC2 with IJ.
Those are the most impressive feats he has.
Zoro:
1. Destroyed a mountain sized Devil Fruit user.
2. 1 shotted an executive while he was using full body CoA.
3. Clashed with an admiral who complemented his strength.
4. Destroyed a logia without using haki just based on fear alone.
5. Put Appo down fairly easily once he got slightly serious.
6. Countered Kaidos attacks with his own.
7. Momentarily blocked the strongest attack in the series to date.
8. Saved Luffy from Yonko multiple times.
9. Sacred the strongest creature in the world with all of his bones broken.
10. Defeated Killer while distracted and with Killers own weapon.
11. Stopped Killer from being able to take his surge back.
12. Defeated a YC1
I’m probably robably missing a few things
Lol we’re arguing semantics man. It’s not that deep.
Sanji:
1. Kicks Oven faster than the eye can see.
2. Knocks P1 around in the RS however he didn’t defeat him.
3. Defeats YC2 with IJ.
Those are the most impressive feats he has.
Zoro:
1. Destroyed a mountain sized Devil Fruit user.
2. 1 shotted an executive while he was using full body CoA.
3. Clashed with an admiral who complemented his strength.
4. Destroyed a logia without using haki just based on fear alone.
5. Put Appo down fairly easily once he got slightly serious.
6. Countered Kaidos attacks with his own.
7. Momentarily blocked the strongest attack in the series to date.
8. Saved Luffy from Yonko multiple times.
9. Sacred the strongest creature in the world with all of his bones broken.
10. Defeated Killer while distracted and with Killers own weapon.
11. Stopped Killer from being able to take his surge back.
12. Defeated a YC1
I’m probably robably missing a few things
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Lol we’re arguing semantics man. It’s not that deep.
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Didn't you say that the difference between sanji and zoro is an ocean? So this is what I consider to be the difference between zoro and ussop, again, I don't think sanji is as strong as zoro, and I don't even want that, I just don't think the difference is as big as you think, and Oda show it in wano.
Once again, I agree that sanji didn't have a good result, from punk hazard to Whole cake, even when he started wano, I thought his final enemy would be page1, but that didn't happen and Oda once again tried to put them on equal terms (with emphasis on "tried"), and the truth is that he will always do that, so I say, sanji will always be one step behind zoro, even if it's artificial..
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Once again, I agree that sanji didn't have a good result, from punk hazard to Whole cake, even when he started wano, I thought his final enemy would be page1, but that didn't happen and Oda once again tried to put them on equal terms (with emphasis on "tried"), and the truth is that he will always do that, so I say, sanji will always be one step behind zoro, even if it's artificial..
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If you guys didn’t care that Sanji was weaker then you wouldn’t be saying things like:
That single line contradicts the whole point of this thread. You all try to give every accomplishment Zoro has to Sanji by pure association just because they happen to be the second and third strongest respectively. If you didn’t care, you would accept Sanji’s cemented role as third strongest in the crew and whatever gap there was between their strength wouldn’t matter be it large or small. Instead you guys are adamant about them being neck and neck. That’s pure hypocrisy.
That single line contradicts the whole point of this thread. You all try to give every accomplishment Zoro has to Sanji by pure association just because they happen to be the second and third strongest respectively. If you didn’t care, you would accept Sanji’s cemented role as third strongest in the crew and whatever gap there was between their strength wouldn’t matter be it large or small. Instead you guys are adamant about them being neck and neck. That’s pure hypocrisy.
