Chapter Discussion Oda needs to stop sucking Luffy's dick Wano is embarrassing as fuck right now.
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Insant like with the Vegeta and Kidd comparison.
Which sparks a good question why isn’t Kidd motivated anymore to defeat Kaido and why is he now sucking Luffy off ??
I understand he wasn’t doing damage to Kaido but isn’t that all the more reason to give him a bloom and show he can keep up ?
Vegeta character development >> Kidds by far.
Which sparks a good question why isn’t Kidd motivated anymore to defeat Kaido and why is he now sucking Luffy off ??
I understand he wasn’t doing damage to Kaido but isn’t that all the more reason to give him a bloom and show he can keep up ?
Vegeta character development >> Kidds by far.
Also didn't Enma nerf the shit outta Zoro on the roof top and then nerf him against King.
Right now Zoro can use conqueror's Haki but he still has to worry about Enma's troubling ass.
Zoro with Enma right now is Low top tier because it keeps forcing CoA out of him.
Zoro with Shushui or any other blade is Yonko level character because he can use it indefinitely
Right now Zoro can use conqueror's Haki but he still has to worry about Enma's troubling ass.
Zoro with Enma right now is Low top tier because it keeps forcing CoA out of him.
Zoro with Shushui or any other blade is Yonko level character because he can use it indefinitely
Luffy vs Arlong was a stomp, not underdog. Luffy vs Lucci final round was the battle between equals, not underdog. Luffy vs Crocodile, Luffy was underdog. Luffy vs Enel Luffy was not underdog. But each preskip fight was so great in quality. Compared to that, post-TS fights depicted Luffy much more of an underdog compared to pre-TS. Luffy vs Doflamingo, Cracker, Katakuri, Luffy was underdog in 3 most important fights. Luffy was not an underdog only at Hody fight. So i disagree that Luffy should be underdog at all times since Luffy's preTS fights varied in depicting Luffy's stats compared to his opponent.
Tldr so Luffy not being underdog is far from being the problem, the problem is Oda is not brave enough to portray Luffy as YC level right out of the timeskip. Since he felt that he must hype the enemies of Strawhat core fighters as well, which is not wise since Oda must eventually pit Luffy against the WSC himself [without gradual process of leveling up] , [due to Oda's own cowardice to portray Luffy as strong enough to compete for PK throne].
Tldr so Luffy not being underdog is far from being the problem, the problem is Oda is not brave enough to portray Luffy as YC level right out of the timeskip. Since he felt that he must hype the enemies of Strawhat core fighters as well, which is not wise since Oda must eventually pit Luffy against the WSC himself [without gradual process of leveling up] , [due to Oda's own cowardice to portray Luffy as strong enough to compete for PK throne].
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Kaido's and Big Mom's CoA is no where near Zoro's level so they would die the moment they wield it.
You believe Luffy is Yonko level, his CoA is utterly embarrassing, even Ulti can break his CoA where as Zoro's CoA can fully no sell Hakai and his CoA can withstand direct impact of Hakai and prevent his swords from breaking. Zoro is the only CoA God tier character who breaks CoA coated swords of even Yonko first mates.
I don't think Oden could use Enma independently either tbh, Zoro used it for like 6 hours throughout Onigashima, since that drug only fixed his bones, didn't give him his stamina, CoA nor did it reduce any pain. I guess Oden can use it for maybe 7 hours.
But I think Oden himself had high top tier CoA and just one tier below Mihawk and Ryuma the black blade users.
How did it almost kill him in seconds?? Zoro has used it for hours in Onigashima.
You believe Luffy is Yonko level, his CoA is utterly embarrassing, even Ulti can break his CoA where as Zoro's CoA can fully no sell Hakai and his CoA can withstand direct impact of Hakai and prevent his swords from breaking. Zoro is the only CoA God tier character who breaks CoA coated swords of even Yonko first mates.
I don't think Oden could use Enma independently either tbh, Zoro used it for like 6 hours throughout Onigashima, since that drug only fixed his bones, didn't give him his stamina, CoA nor did it reduce any pain. I guess Oden can use it for maybe 7 hours.
But I think Oden himself had high top tier CoA and just one tier below Mihawk and Ryuma the black blade users.
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How did it almost kill him in seconds?? Zoro has used it for hours in Onigashima.
Yeah, the two characters that Law stated have haki so powerful, his abilities wouldn't work on them, have weaker haki than Zoro. I'll buy that for a dollar..... Not sure where you get Zoro has stronger CoA than them anyways, when not a single character on that rooftop posed enough of a threat to Kaido or Big Mom where they even thought of using CoA. Just think about that. Nobody pushed Kaido, or Big Mom to use CoA, once. Zoro needed CoA to break through Pica's CoA. Kaido didn't even block Asura with CoA.
If Kaido or Big Mom picked up Enma, their Haki is so powerful, the sword would instantly bend to their will. They run zero risk of losing their lives.
If Kaido or Big Mom picked up Enma, their Haki is so powerful, the sword would instantly bend to their will. They run zero risk of losing their lives.
Bunch of nonsense
Kaidos CoA is so pathetic it can't even kill Luffy
Zoros CoA can permanently scar Kaido
What attack has Kaido ever blocked with CoA?? I'd love to see
Laws DF not working isn't some kinda metric, Law's devil fruit is dog shit.
Only reason why Law could teleport Zoro is because Zoro allowed him too.
You need to show me CoA feat from Kaido on the level of blocking Hakai, permanently scarring himself with CoA alone since Zoro couldn't use CoC on roof top.
And Zoro was without a doubt a threat to both Kaido and Big Mom they both shat their pants "Kaido dodge"
Zoros CoA with his weakest attacks can do more damage to Kaido than Yamato can with CoC.
Kaidos CoA is so pathetic it can't even kill Luffy
Zoros CoA can permanently scar Kaido
What attack has Kaido ever blocked with CoA?? I'd love to see
Laws DF not working isn't some kinda metric, Law's devil fruit is dog shit.
Only reason why Law could teleport Zoro is because Zoro allowed him too.
You need to show me CoA feat from Kaido on the level of blocking Hakai, permanently scarring himself with CoA alone since Zoro couldn't use CoC on roof top.
And Zoro was without a doubt a threat to both Kaido and Big Mom they both shat their pants "Kaido dodge"
Zoros CoA with his weakest attacks can do more damage to Kaido than Yamato can with CoC.
change Luffy to Zoro, and they shall never complaints 
"Zoro was just that strong" would be their answer.
If Luffy does something that insane, it would be all complaints and constant crying about how Oda is trash.
You never needed to explain this
Zoros CoA is 10 times stronger
Luffy hasn't accomplished shit with CoA
Anyways if you guys enjoy Luffy vs Kaido and Law and Kidd vs Big Mom then I guess sorry to hurt your feelings
You can go ahead and lock my thread.
@Pantheos
Luffy vs Kaido and Law and Kidd vs Big Mom is peak fiction
Luffy hasn't accomplished shit with CoA
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Anyways if you guys enjoy Luffy vs Kaido and Law and Kidd vs Big Mom then I guess sorry to hurt your feelings
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You can go ahead and lock my thread.
@Pantheos
Luffy vs Kaido and Law and Kidd vs Big Mom is peak fiction