Spoiler One Piece Chapter 972 Spoilers Discussion

[ImmaIvanoM]

man a way to overreact. youre going off off spoiler translations. wait till the actual translations until you freak out

I'm already waiting for the next chapter dawg.

 

[ardym]

you know what will be the funniest thing? if Toki was alive and is Luffy's Mom

 

[DarkWitch]

Toki's character was disappointing during this flashback, but for anyone who thought we would learn something about the void century from her during this flashback only has themselves to blame. It was obvious that Oda was never going to reveal something important right now, but I did wish Toki's character could have gotten a bit more focus but unfortunately this was all about Oden.

 

[Master OF Haki]

Ye 8 vs 19 999

Do you even understand that 20,000 is Kaido's fleet and not his crew?

 

[T.D.A]

The spoiler says them

'They will be able to defeat Kaido' which supports the view that Luffy won't be strong enough to defeat Kaido 1v1 alone in this arc, it'll be a group effort.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Enma guys Enma, Oden used Enma.

He also used ame no Habakiri. .. It was a two sword strike

 

[T.D.A]

Toki's character was disappointing during this flashback, but for anyone who thought we would learn something about the void century from her during this flashback only has themselves to blame. It was obvious that Oda was never going to reveal something important right now, but I did wish Toki's character could have gotten a bit more focus but unfortunately this was all about Oden.

Toki probably doesn't know that much about the Void Century if she was a young orphan girl on the run, skipping through time.

 

[DarkWitch]

Toki probably doesn't know that much about the Void Century if she was a young orphan girl on the run, skipping through time.

Yeah that's also possible.

 

[Bogard]

For those who are wondering where Oden got the 20 years prophecy from, it came from the seaking

Remember this dialogue happened by the end of Oden's pirate journey 5years before the current flashback events, so the 20years make sense

 

[Valtiel]

Zoros gonna use enma too when he cuts kaido.

It will never happen

he’ll be too busy getting screwed by king

 

[Master OF Haki]

'They will be able to defeat Kaido' which supports the view that Luffy won't be strong enough to defeat Kaido 1v1 alone in this arc, it'll be a group effort.

Kaido has crew too and I can repeat it again and again. Taking down Kaido doesn't mean just defeating him alone but his crew too.

 

[ardym]

Toki's character was disappointing during this flashback, but for anyone who thought we would learn something about the void century from her during this flashback only has themselves to blame. It was obvious that Oda was never going to reveal something important right now, but I did wish Toki's character could have gotten a bit more focus but unfortunately this was all about Oden.

well she can see the future that's for sure , and i think she was sent to the future either to fulfill Joyboy's will or to put an end for it. she might be his daughter , and let me make a wild speculation if that was the case she might be Luffy's mother .

 

[Red Admiral]

well she can see the future that's for sure , and i think she was sent to the future either to fulfill Joyboy's will or to put an end for it. she might be his daughter , and let me make a wild speculation if that was the case she might be Luffy's mother .

can she? can she see the future?

the 20 years rising was Oden words

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

well she can see the future that's for sure

This hasn't been proven

 

[ardym]

can she? can she see the future?

the 20 years rising was Oden words

yes that is true but i think she has that ability of the time time fruit , i think the combination with her CoO will enable her to see any future she wish to see.

 

[Red Admiral]

by the way .... for the people who claim ... "Oden just admit Kaido > all people"

Oden said ... if I can't beat him no one can

so ... if Oden was talking about the world , it's only logical if he considered himself as 2nd most powerful person alive

...

so either

he was talking about world and the power levels are Kaido > Oden > Whitebeard > Garp

or he was talking about Wano and Kaido > Oden > rest


take what you consider the most logical
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yes that is true but i think she has that ability of the time time fruit , i think the combination with her CoO will enable her to see any future she wish to see.

her DF might be THE most broken DF ever by an unreal gap ... so I don't mind if Oda tell us more :)

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Fine, I’ll admit it! *I’M* the traitor; I was one of Oden’s retainers that Oda chose not to show or acknowledge because I’m devastatingly handsome and very tall, so I sold my master out to Orochi and Kaido to get back at the merciless God who created me. It was wrong, and I am deeply sorry for any emotional/narrative issues my actions have caused y’all

 

[DarkWitch]

yes that is true but i think she has that ability of the time time fruit , i think the combination with her CoO will enable her to see any future she wish to see.

Wait what? So let me get this straight, if you have the time time fruit, and you combine it with your CoO you will be able to see any future you want.

 

[Master OF Haki]

He also used ame no Habakiri. .. It was a two sword strike

It was said that Enma was the only sword/weapon to ever heart/scar Kaido. I don't know how you read it but it was said quite clearl. Zoro uses 3 sword stil but he doesn't cut 3 times so Oden used two sword stil but it doesn't mean that Ame no Habakiri cut Kaido too.

 

[Just a member]

Meh, that letter is gonna make a fuss in the vs threads.. So Oden thought that if Kaido was stronger than him then he was the strongest in Wano only or the whole world (the debate strongest creature and strongest character all over again).

Plus we know Oden wrote that letter before the fight and we know that that fight went well differently from what Oden thought at first aka Kaido wasn't stronger than him but he won and survived only thanks to the fake hostage so Oden (peak Oden by his own words) was for sure stronger than that Kaido that so wasn't the strongest in Wano let alone the whole world (where we have people like Roger or WB who can scoff off Oden).