Shiryu is the captain of the Second Ship while Zoro was the second Strawhat to join. Laffitte is the captain of the Fifth Ship while Sanji was the fifth Strawhat to join.
Don't think these are mere coincidences especially when Oda shows Shiryu and Laffitte like this.
Burgess feels like an ideal candidate to be New World's Blueno or BBP's Jack given his inferior portrayal to Shiryu and Laffitte.
The fact that people already drew parallels between Teach/Shiryu and Newgate/Oden also makes the fact that Laffitte has a flying Zoan (like Marco/King) feel like an elaborate setup.
Kuzan is faster than Sanji featswise so the OP got that wrong to begin with
And Sanji beating the guy who fought for 10 DAYS against the character that Oda says is so strong that he could put an end to the entire SERIES within a year is just
I don’t think Sanji will fight him. I think smoker will.
I think Aokiji doesn’t need to be a bad person to align with bad people (Luffys allied with a bunch of very bad people like Suleiman Bartolomeo and the Dons) but Aokiji gave up on doing things the right way in order to create change and has loss faith in the marine system. Which is why I think an honorable marine who still believes in the marines should take him down. The best candidate for that is smoker imo.
Oh, i thought we were debating about strawhats vs aokiji sorry..
I still like your approach but i disagree.
I truly believe that aokiji only want to keep an eye to the most dangerous guy on the verse right now.
I mean BB would sink marineford if shanks wasn't there.
Even if you are right, do you believe that smoker could defeat that monster?
I can picture him reaching doflas pl but going all the way up to aokiji's level seems impossible to me.
Oh, i thought we were debating about strawhats vs aokiji sorry..
I still like your approach but i disagree.
I truly believe that aokiji only want to keep an eye to the most dangerous guy on the verse right now.
I mean BB would sink marineford if shanks wasn't there.
Even if you are right, do you believe that smoker could defeat that monster?
I can picture him reaching doflas pl but going all the way up to aokiji's level seems impossible to me.
Oda giving massive power spikes to his characters are honestly nothing new. I think Smoker has one of the strongest wills out of all the marines and his devil fruit if used correctly can be really powerful.
Im sure Odas going to level smoker up pretty substantially next time we see him because he’s one of the people Luffy wants to fight the most. And he’s the closest thing to a marine rival Luffy has so him surpassing Aokiji doesn’t seem far fetched to me.
As to Aokijis character, Aokiji seems like he’s been conflicted ever since Ohara. I think him realizing the marines favored a warmonger like Akainu is what made him realize there’s no point protecting this organization which massacred an island and forced him to kill his friends.
Aokiji joining forces with someone who has an unknown dream but we can assume it likely involves the destruction of the world government is just the finale of a likely character arc for him.
And even so, that feat is nowhere near as impressive as you seem to be thinking it is, you realize One Piece is a verse with lightspeed characters right? Traveling half way across Marineford even if it took 0.1 seconds isn't impressive
Oda giving massive power spikes to his characters are honestly nothing new. I think Smoker has one of the strongest wills out of all the marines and his devil fruit if used correctly can be really powerful.
Im sure Odas going to level smoker up pretty substantially next time we see him because he’s one of the people Luffy wants to fight the most. And he’s the closest thing to a marine rival Luffy has so him surpassing Aokiji doesn’t seem far fetched to me.
As to Aokijis character, Aokiji seems like he’s been conflicted ever since Ohara. I think him realizing the marines favored a warmonger like Akainu is what made him realize there’s no point protecting this organization which massacred an island and forced him to kill his friends.
Aokiji joining forces with someone who has an unknown dream but we can assume it likely involves the destruction of the world government is just the finale of a likely character arc for him.
Yes, exactly this. Besides, we don't know the details about what Kuzan is doing there yet.
What we 100% do know is that he and Fujitora are the highest (former) marines that actually are against what the marines are currently doing and how. They both liked SHs as well, no way either of them will fight the SHs because they'll know the SHs are fighting for the greater good.
And even so, that feat is nowhere near as impressive as you seem to be thinking it is, you realize One Piece is a verse with lightspeed characters right? Traveling half way across Marineford even if it took 0.1 seconds isn't impressive
Do Pacifista not exist with their lightspeed lasers?
Does Niji not exist with his stated lightspeed sword?
Can name many more if necessary
You call my takes bad and then claim lightspeed characters don't exist in the verse when they're directly stated to, how much more of a clown could you possibly be?
Do Pacifista not exist with their lightspeed lasers?
Does Ichiji not exist with his stated lightspeed sword?
Can name many more if necessary
You call my takes bad and then claim lightspeed characters don't exist in the verse when they're directly stated to, how much more of a clown could you possibly be?
Kizaru doesn't move at lightspeed you buffon or else he'd fodderize all 4 of your dear Lonko + their entire crews + the entire revolutionary army + all the Supernovas, all at once and in sub 3 seconds
Kizaru doesn't move at lightspeed you buffon or else he'd fodderize all 4 of your dear Lonko + their entire crews + the entire revolutionary army + all the Supernovas, all at once and in sub 3 seconds
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