Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1042 Spoilers Discussion
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Tbh I don’t think Luffy would even be able to beat big mom at the moment
I think the jiki Jiki no mi and the ope ope no mi combined can do more internal damage and exert more sheer force than Luffy can manage.
Yet puncture wille+damned punk still couldn’t KO big mom, likely because she turned her bones into homies earlier in the chapter and hence they cannot be broken.
idk how Luffy can manage to beat her with G4’s time limit.
The only reason loro looks so cool is because he fought someone significantly weaker
I think the jiki Jiki no mi and the ope ope no mi combined can do more internal damage and exert more sheer force than Luffy can manage.
Yet puncture wille+damned punk still couldn’t KO big mom, likely because she turned her bones into homies earlier in the chapter and hence they cannot be broken.
idk how Luffy can manage to beat her with G4’s time limit.
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The only reason loro looks so cool is because he fought someone significantly weaker
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Because that version of Luffy did with 1 punch what Rooftop Zoro strongest move couldn't do.
The gap Is too massive and even if you Say that Zoro has better controll over COC (something I disagree with since CoC Is Luffy best haki), Luffy still has Future Sight, Gears 2-3 and doesn't ruin out of stamina like Zoro does because of Enma.
The gap Is too massive and even if you Say that Zoro has better controll over COC (something I disagree with since CoC Is Luffy best haki), Luffy still has Future Sight, Gears 2-3 and doesn't ruin out of stamina like Zoro does because of Enma.
I hate all forms of wank
Luffy’s ACoC was only crude and clumsy in comparison to kaido’s. I see no evidence that suggests Zoro’s CoC is significantly better than 1010 Luffy’s. In all likelihood it’s probably worse.
Oh wait never-mind I misread that post. Saying base 1010 Luffy> Zoro is pretty dumb.
I think even current Luffy needs G4 to take out Zoro(albeit zoro would get destroyed once Luffy goes G4)
Luffy’s ACoC was only crude and clumsy in comparison to kaido’s. I see no evidence that suggests Zoro’s CoC is significantly better than 1010 Luffy’s. In all likelihood it’s probably worse.
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Oh wait never-mind I misread that post. Saying base 1010 Luffy> Zoro is pretty dumb.
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I think even current Luffy needs G4 to take out Zoro(albeit zoro would get destroyed once Luffy goes G4)
I think what will defeat Kaido is the crudest form of awakening. Basically Luffy in base with no requirements to need to use Haki or Gear forms (like Kid and Law with BM).
But it'll be a detriment to his stamina.
What comes after this applying it to Haki and Gear forms (potentially even Gear 5 or something)
But it'll be a detriment to his stamina.
What comes after this applying it to Haki and Gear forms (potentially even Gear 5 or something)
- Zoro leaving a permanent scar on Hybrid Kaido is much more impressive than if he had simply knocked him on the ground
- The scabbards did that but none of them had even close to enough strength/power to even reopen the old scar, let alone leave a new scar
- Zoro was literally dying and Law even mentioned how shocked he was that Zoro could even move
- IIRC there's even a translation discrepancy on whether or not Zoro meant "knock down" or "knock out"
- Regardless of Kaido being "serious" or not, his physical durability/endurance doesn't change. Only when he starts blocking attacks w/ ACoC barriers does it matter
- CoC being Luffy's speciality logically should not have anything to do with his mastery over ACoC because the principles of ACoC are based on Ryuo
- Gears 2-3 don't count as "base" and regardless there's nothing to show that those versions of Luffy have better AP than Zoro
stop wanking Luffy he was clearly not a top tier before chapter 1026
People are fooling themselves if they think all the current Zoro can do is stall a non-serious Kaido. If that was the case Zoro shouldn't have performed better on the rooftop than the other SN. Zoro shouldn't have bested Kaido in CQC or stopped hakai.
Yamato attacks, even with ACoC, are weaker than Zoro's non-ACoC attacks. Zoro's Dragon twister caused Kaido more damage. Rooftop Zoro is stronger than ACoC Yamato.
The main reason for Zoro to fight and beat King was prepare him for his future battle against Kaido. What else would Oda give King a greater durability/defense and make him harder to damage than Kaido.
With this current chapter is time for people to acknowledge that Zoro's Dead Man Game has caused Kaido more damage than any other single attack. Dead man game scarred Kaido, had him shaking, breathing and even bleeding afterwards. No other attack has done that. With every other attack we only see him bleed when he is hit by the attack. Not have lasted damage that causes Kaido to bleed just from moving. Knocking a character down is not more impressive than scarring one.
Zoro has reacher a new level and AP is off the scale. When you take Zoro's rooftop feats, plus all the techniques and skills he hasn't used in the war and add ACoC to it. Zoro has the power and skill to fight against a serious Kaido and cause him more damage than any other character has done.
Yamato attacks, even with ACoC, are weaker than Zoro's non-ACoC attacks. Zoro's Dragon twister caused Kaido more damage. Rooftop Zoro is stronger than ACoC Yamato.
The main reason for Zoro to fight and beat King was prepare him for his future battle against Kaido. What else would Oda give King a greater durability/defense and make him harder to damage than Kaido.
With this current chapter is time for people to acknowledge that Zoro's Dead Man Game has caused Kaido more damage than any other single attack. Dead man game scarred Kaido, had him shaking, breathing and even bleeding afterwards. No other attack has done that. With every other attack we only see him bleed when he is hit by the attack. Not have lasted damage that causes Kaido to bleed just from moving. Knocking a character down is not more impressive than scarring one.
Zoro has reacher a new level and AP is off the scale. When you take Zoro's rooftop feats, plus all the techniques and skills he hasn't used in the war and add ACoC to it. Zoro has the power and skill to fight against a serious Kaido and cause him more damage than any other character has done.
Kaido disagree.
Kaido considers only that Luffy as an hope and fun.
Doesn't think the same about LoLo.
This Is like saying that SSJ Goku was almost dead, excuses.
It's manga bro, Zoro said he did his best.
The problem Is that Kaido Is now using COO and his true Speed.
Zoro can't catch Kaido and gets one-shotted from his new more powerful attacks and blows.
Still his CoC Is stronger since he has more will than Zoro. You can't train CoC. So logically Luffy's one stronger since Is his specialty.
They do at least this Is what I meant with base Luffy.
I see G2-3 as his new base.
Kaido considers only that Luffy as an hope and fun.
Doesn't think the same about LoLo.
This Is like saying that SSJ Goku was almost dead, excuses.
It's manga bro, Zoro said he did his best.
The problem Is that Kaido Is now using COO and his true Speed.
Zoro can't catch Kaido and gets one-shotted from his new more powerful attacks and blows.
Still his CoC Is stronger since he has more will than Zoro. You can't train CoC. So logically Luffy's one stronger since Is his specialty.
They do at least this Is what I meant with base Luffy.
I see G2-3 as his new base.
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