Questions & Mysteries Drums of Liberation - Return of the captain!

What happened to Luffy?

  • Joyboy took over.

  • Their minds co-exist.

  • Luffy will fight him off/make him submit.

  • There is no Joyboy's will in Luffy's body.


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nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#44
First, Zunisha didn't say he didn't meet Joy Boy in 800 years. He say he didn't hear the drum of liberation in 800 years.
Meaning he can detect Joy Boy from the Drum of liberation.


Oda didn't confirm that Luffy isn't Joy Boy right ?
Zunisha says Joy Boy has come back then showing Luffy's awakening gomu gomu no mi right ?
Meaning Luffy with awakening gomu gomu no mi = Joy Boy.


Zunisha says Joy Boy has come back then showing any soul coming to posessed Luffy Body as your copium right ?
Where any soul coming to posessed Luffy Body as your copium ? No.
Then that just your copium.
Luffy is Luffy, a boy that was born 19 years ago.
He is not Joyboy, he was born without that devil fruit.
Joyboy is someone from 800+ years ago.
There is no Luffy 800+ years ago.
Luffy is a character from present.

Joyboy imprinted his will either in the hat or in the fruit.
And now that Luffy has died or came close to dying, Joyboy took over.
Luffy's voice out, Joyboy's voice in.
It is very simple and you will see when Joyboy stands up whether he is Luffy or not.
 
#45
I read this and even its a great read i disagree with all of your points.
I will not go and specify, i dont think Oda is gonna make JB someone inside Luffy.
Its probably that JB is a title and Luffy is finally becoming JB.

Also Kaido wants to be JB but he cant bcz he doesnt have right fruit? Oda doesnt do things like that.
I dont think you are supposed to take inherited will LITERALLY. :/

Lastly Kaido didnt kill Luffy. Your heart stopping for a moment doesnt mean you are dead. Same with Zoro.
Idk why so many people says Luffy died. I mean you guys are underestimating death.
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
#47
Amusing, but is it not more possible for Xebec's soul to be In Teach? :quest:

Besides, ZKK is going as scheduled now: we only need to see Joyboy beating Kaido, Kaido's flashback, and Kaido unleashing one last try at destroying Wano before ZKK.
I can see Teach being a son of Xebec. And/or perhaps also having been an user of the Yami devil fruit.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#49
Are you really know the meaning of reincarnation ?

Reincarnation meaning new birth. Are you knowing this.
Meaning a God who died 800 years ago can come to rebirth again.


Where soul coming to posessed Luffy Body as your copium ? still no answer ?
Zunisha saying Joy Boy is coming back when Luffy awakening his devil fruit not when any soul coming to posessed Luffy's body as your copium.
This is reality.


Zunisha didn't say he didn't meet Joy Boy in 800 years until now. He say he didn't hear the drum of liberation in 800 years.
Meaning he can detect Joy Boy from the Drum of liberation and he can hear it because of gomu gomu awakening.
Not by any soul coming to posessed Luffy's body as your copium, right? If not then show any page that any soul coming to posessed Luffy's body. Or you can't find it because it didn't exist.
You really dont get it, lol.
If Luffy was the reincarnation of Joyboy, Zunisha would hear Joyboy's voice the whole time.
Luffy's voice had to disappear for Joyboy's voice to take over and return for the first time in 800 years.

What if Luffy never ate that specific fruit? Joyboy wouldnt return. Reincarnation doesnt work like that.
If he is the reincarnation of Joyboy, the awakening of the fruit is completely irrelevant.
It means Joyboy's will has taken over his body. The only question is what's the source - DF or the hat.

Lastly Kaido didnt kill Luffy. Your heart stopping for a moment doesnt mean you are dead. Same with Zoro.
Idk why so many people says Luffy died. I mean you guys are underestimating death.
You remember that we literally saw Death coming after Zoro?
But then you mentioned rocks :whitepress:
His return has been foreshadowed and I bet he is driving Kaido into suicide, so he can finally take over.:myman:
 
#50
You really dont get it, lol.
You remember that we literally saw Death coming after Zoro?
I interprete it as a visualisation of the damage Zoro is taking from the drug.
Chopper was talking about the side effects a chapter ago.
There is no Grim Reaper in One Piece.
I aint believing Zoro is dead. Not even for a second until Oda tells us literally that Zoro has died.
 
#51
You really dont get it, lol.
If Luffy was the reincarnation of Joyboy, Zunisha would hear Joyboy's voice the whole time.
Luffy's voice had to disappear for Joyboy's voice to take over and return for the first time in 800 years.

What if Luffy never ate that specific fruit? Joyboy wouldnt return. Reincarnation doesnt work like that.
If he is the reincarnation of Joyboy, the awakening of the fruit is completely irrelevant.
It means Joyboy's will has taken over his body. The only question is what's the source - DF or the hat.


You remember that we literally saw Death coming after Zoro?

His return has been foreshadowed and I bet he is driving Kaido into suicide, so he can finally take over.:myman:
I wouldn't mind if he did return. Tis too soon for the rubber boy to be fighting that legend right now
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#55
Copium and copium, dik lol.
Still no any soul come to posesses Luffy body.:myman:
If base on your copium, there still many way can go. Like only Joy Boy reincarnation can awakening gomu gomu no mi the others can't.
Especially Gorosei saids it didn't awaken for hundred years.
Zunisha can tell he is Joy Boy because he awakening his fruit. And Zunisha know that only Joy Boy can awakening this fruit.
Then Luffy heart beat after awakening gomu gomu no mi can make a sound to Zunisha, but before awakening it can't.
The real one is Zunisha can detect Joy Boy when Luffy awakening his fruit. No any soul come to posesses Luffy body in scene for Zunisha to hear his drunm of liberation. But awakening gomu gomu no mi yes.
Meaning awakening gomu gomu no mi make Zunisha to hear Luffy drunm of liberation, that clears.


Copium more, dik.
We will soon see if it is copium or not. :goyea:
The reality doesnt change tho - the weak one disappeared, Lurking Legend took over.
Luffy is now "they", just like Blaclbeard. Second devil fruit incoming.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#56
What it state Luffy is disappeared ?
Your voice disappears got debunk by skypia arc's information.
Lurking Legend from what ?
Copium Source ?
lol Skypiea literally confirms what voice disappearing means, complete defeat, near-death state.
Momonosuke and Law state that Luffy's voice disappeared, you already knew that.
Joyboy is lurking legend, lmao. Cant you put 2 and 2 together?
 
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