Spoiler One Piece Chapter 973 Spoilers Discussion

[djiayebee]

He's not stronger than Ashura because the story hasn't given a reason why he would be.

He wasn't stronger than Ashura when they were younger and you can't say hes trained more than Ashura has in these 20 years

Unless he has a DF or something, there's nothing to show he's stronger than him

? sorry i just want to confirm, do you think they are equal or that Ashura is the strongest?

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Oh you think tiny Denjiro could've given Oden an actual fight back then?

duke matched ashura with one leg fam and was nowhere close years ago.
he grew to top three before oden's death
takes the place hyo had years ago
revealed as the last remaining sacbbard
says he is stronger than all the scabbards and orochi chimes in to be pleased to have him at his side.
doesnt seem weaker than ashura to me
in the slightest.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

Orochi is still Zoro plot,
Kyoushiro not being villain is boring.

It just takes a sword and suit?
it took food + rest + 11 hours + nami + 2 g4 modes and rounds to beat Cracker, king/queen zoan fighters are about to lose in lesser hours vs dudes slower & weaker than g4 Luffy. LOL
Calamities fanboys should pray that calamities even surpass Cracker skills and feats unless king and queen lose to Kidd and law 1 v 1 coz if not...

Btw :
King having CoC is totally shut down if he fights Zoro or Sanji coz Oda only gives luffy conquerors as opponents/allies
'King will have CoC, top tier haki" LOL

it's just wrong how Oda has handled calamities in flashbacks and present , too little screen time and hype.

You got bodied and now your trying to downplay the calamities to save favr. Man sit your creditless ass down. Zoro is YC1 and will body King and cut Kaido.

 

[Albino 👑]

Oh so we're still in the flashback?

And to be honest while it's now confirmed Denjiro = Kyoshiro, it raises more questions than answers to me, mainly why exactly did he save Orochi from Zoro's attack ? He wasn't even supposed to be there since he mentioned Orochi came without him. It could have been a perfect opportunity to let Orochi get killed while having the excuse he wasn't there

I get the feeling this story is deeper than we think right now. With that said, with Kyoshiro revealed to be Denjiro, i guess we now know he was active these past 20years, with him remaining behind from Onigashima party potentially being an excuse to make his come-back as an ally

It lowers the strength of Orochi's army as an antagonist though since Kyoshiro was seemingly his best man, which is another reason i'm skeptical of this reveal and Hope there is something going on deeper than this

Im assuming only reason he didn't let zoro kill him was because the timing was off

If zoro killed him then and there just about every single beast pirate and samurai under orochi would be after them

And at that point everyone was separated or in a bad situation. Like law and luffy both being in prison

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

Orochi is still Zoro plot,
Kyoushiro not being villain is boring.

It just takes a sword and suit?
it took food + rest + 11 hours + nami + 2 g4 modes and rounds to beat Cracker, king/queen zoan fighters are about to lose in lesser hours vs dudes slower & weaker than g4 Luffy. LOL
Calamities fanboys should pray that calamities even surpass Cracker skills and feats unless king and queen lose to Kidd and law 1 v 1 coz if not...

Btw :
King having CoC is totally shut down if he fights Zoro or Sanji coz Oda only gives luffy conquerors as opponents/allies
'King will have CoC, top tier haki" LOL

it's just wrong how Oda has handled calamities in flashbacks and present , too little screen time and hype.

King will have CoC. Are you not tired of being wrong.

 

[Zowo]

And then Jack having been injured and down one blade was still fast enough and strong enough to cut Ashura as well all the while WITHOUT TRANSFORMING TO USE HIS TRUE POWER.

At best Ashura can sort of fight with repressed jack. at best

Asura didnt get cut

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

? sorry i just want to confirm, do you think they are equal or that Ashura is the strongest?

Ashura has been built up as the strongest Scabbard since the very start.

He's the standard essentially and you are either weaker than him or somewhat equal but you can't be stronger than him

That's why he was also present when Zoro was flexing with Enma so that we the readers can tell Zoro is above all these boys

 

[sanjikun]

Denjiro is head of the Yakuza, and the Shogun's top dog. How does the "story" put Ashura above him?

After Oden, the head of the Yakuza, Hyogoro, was the strongest.

 

[Topi Jerami]

Someone named King doesn't have King Haki

While another guy hiding in his basement, eating donuts in secret, has it?

Sounds legit

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

Oh so we're still in the flashback?

And to be honest while it's now confirmed Denjiro = Kyoshiro, it raises more questions than answers to me, mainly why exactly did he save Orochi from Zoro's attack ? He wasn't even supposed to be there since he mentioned Orochi came without him. It could have been a perfect opportunity to let Orochi get killed while having the excuse he wasn't there

I get the feeling this story is deeper than we think right now. With that said, with Kyoshiro revealed to be Denjiro, i guess we now know he was active these past 20years, with him remaining behind from Onigashima party potentially being an excuse to make his come-back as an ally

It lowers the strength of Orochi's army as an antagonist though since Kyoshiro was seemingly his best man, which is another reason i'm skeptical of this reveal and Hope there is something going on deeper than this

1.Its obvious that Yasu and him made a plan bro. He respected Yasu to wait till the final battle/right time
2. He could of killed Orochi anytime, but he waiting.
3. Skeptical???? lmao Its the most obvious thing since Hyori is the Hoe. Stop it
4. He also witching hour boy.

 

[Shura]

King will have CoC. Are you not tired of being wrong.

why King will have CoC??...because katakuri had it??.....Katakuri is the son of BigMom and so he had it....

 

[ShadyOjiro]

Only someone reliable and strong would protect Orochi tbh.


In the past Kaido himself was his bodyguard.
Lmao.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

Denjiro is head of the Yakuza, and the Shogun's top dog. How does the "story" put Ashura above him?

After Oden, the head of the Yakuza, Hyogoro, was the strongest.

Noting put eother above each other

 

[sanjikun]

Someone named King doesn't have King Haki

While another guy hiding in his basement, eating donuts in secret, has it?

Sounds legit

To be fair, King is the western "Kingu" which is a card. He's not the eastern "Ou" or "王", after which Haoushoku is named after.

Noting put eother above each other

Yes, it does. He's the head of the Yakuza. Hyogoro and Oden were the 2 strongest as mentioned by Kaido.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Ashura has been built up as the strongest Scabbard since the very start.

He's the standard essentially and you are either weaker than him or somewhat equal but you can't be stronger than him

That's why he was also present when Zoro was flexing with Enma so that we the readers can tell Zoro is above all these boys

incorrect
denjiro
kawamatsu
ashura were stated to be at the top
anything else is your headcanon.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

why King will have CoC??...because katakuri had it??.....Katakuri is the son of BigMom and so he had it....

Cause Kaido said he had too many CoC already. He also from some ancient race.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

says he is stronger than all the scabbards a

He says "I will welcome the coming of the scabbards so that I can show you(Orochi) my skill with the blade"

Dont you get what he's saying here? He's saying I will welcome the scabbards returning do that I can finally cut you down Orochi

Hehehe, you guys should start actually bringing up the quotes people say before just repeating some unfounded statements

 

[djiayebee]

well its obvious why.
if he was an enemy you will want him to be stronger so you scale him yc2
but a strong ally esp one thats too strong
no we dont want that
lol.

well, considering who's the opponents with 2 yonkou crews.... i dont think that rule applies here tbh!

 

[Topi Jerami]

why King will have CoC??...because katakuri had it??.....Katakuri is the son of BigMom and so he had it....

King will have CoC because he is the chosen 1. His race was annihilated but he is the only 1 survivor

And CoC is not inherited.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

He says "I will welcome the coming of the scabbards so that I can show you(Orochi) my skill with the blade"

Dont you get what he's saying here? He's saying I will welcome the scabbards returning do that I can finally cut you down Orochi

Hehehe, you guys should start actually bringing up the quotes people say before just repeating some unfounded statements

apologies I might have been referring to jaiminis there .
regardless nothing suggest ashura is the strongest
fact he fought oden years ago but also fought equally with duke does show they grew differently.
duke was no where close years ago.