[FNZ] Light game United Nations Security Council

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Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Anyway, Cal probably got converted there if he wasn't already scum, it would explain his sudden disinterest. Lynch him tomorrow, if he flips town lynch Prof. Game feels pretty unwinnable once we start losing Perma Seats though.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Anyway, Cal probably got converted there if he wasn't already scum, it would explain his sudden disinterest. Lynch him tomorrow, if he flips town lynch Prof. Game feels pretty unwinnable once we start losing Perma Seats though.
Should add, only lynch one, then the other, if one flips non-perma seat. Prof should probably claim today to be honest.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Meh, I think those are pretty meh for the choices, and I also think it's pretty clear that it's not a selection that suits me at all.

Vote: RippedCal

For future reference, Townie Perma Seats should try and pick players that are plausibly scum that aren't dominating the conversation, as otherwise our lynch options are too slim.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
I think it's fairly likely that Cal here was recruited in to the Mafia and that's why he suddenly became demotivated.

For the newer players, you need to ask yourselves whom this arrangement favours. Remember, if I were scum, I'd be able to nominate whomever I please. I'd have a much better chance at getting a player like Joseung lynched over Cal. Yet here we are, my vs Cal. There is very little chance of me winning that, I know it, everyone knows it. Thus it would be very suboptimal for me as Scum to do it.

I doubt that's going to sway anyone. But it doesn't matter, because I'm going to flip town, and then you're going to have to lynch Cal. After that there should be 2-3 scum left.
 

Pot Goblin

Conejo Blanco
I finally get a chance to check the thread before going to bed and I see that we have a 1v1 lynch situation going on right now.
:chopoff:

I'm going to do a reread of each nominees posts in a few hours before making a vote. It's definitely a much harder decision this time around.

I'll see you fellas first thing in the morning.
:hapnoel:
 
Alright. No one is going to be able to talk me out of claiming here anyway so I’ll just skip the polite part and do it considering it’s late, I may crash whenever, and Idk how soon I’ll be awake tomorrow for EOD.

I won the election. Which tells me Cal can’t be culted. I’m not positive that means he can’t be scum but he at least didn’t get culted by the election.

I’m surprised I got elected and I’m surprised that I wasn’t scum nominated considering I just subbed in. I’m guessing it had more to do with Ekko than me. I voted myself half hoping Ratchet might have really been trying to cult me lol.

So neither Cal or Ratchet’s arguments fully work rn. I’m a little suspicious of both which is why I picked them, but Cal more so than Ratchet now. I probably wouldn’t have picked Ratchet in hindsight

I don’t like Cal’s push that Ratchet is scum who wanted to cult me and how he has pushed that at face value today without any elaboration or solving around it beyond just repeating it. He jumped on that angle really hard after I brought it up and he didn’t even entertain that I might be a suboptimal pick for Ratchet to try to cult since he’s literally the first person who’d get accused of picking me. For Cal to be scum it would mean that scum nominated one of their own instead of town. It probably wouldn’t be the worst idea considering it could somewhat be used to push a clear on Cal if he lost the election.

If Cal is town then I wasn’t a big fan of Ratchet’s argument that Cal and I should both be lynched back to back (but specifically in that order looking for a perma seat). The idea against him being that if town just lynched both then that’s possibly two mislynches right there. But the fact that Ratchet asked me to claim seems pretty counter intuitive to that agenda bc now I’m telling you guys that I won so his elaboration to only lynch the second one if the first doesn’t flip perma seat doesn’t really synergize with the lynch both agenda. If he’s scum who's actually trying to make that happen it requires some level of incompetence in his plan lol.

The only angle I can really make out for scum Ratchet is if he tried to cult Cal, distance from him before he goes down, and then hope him flipping scum propels Cal forward the rest of the game. But if Ratchet’s scum trying to do that then Idk how I won bc I probably required Ratchet’s vote to win. If Ratchet didn’t vote for me then Idk how I got here lol. Me winning the election is as much a favor toward Ratchet being town for me as anything the more I think about it bc I feel like he’s one of the people who’d be likely to vote for me as town.

Also I’m Norway for what it’s worth. Idk if flavor claiming even matters here.
 
Alright. No one is going to be able to talk me out of claiming here anyway so I’ll just skip the polite part and do it considering it’s late, I may crash whenever, and Idk how soon I’ll be awake tomorrow for EOD.

I won the election. Which tells me Cal can’t be culted. I’m not positive that means he can’t be scum but he at least didn’t get culted by the election.

I’m surprised I got elected and I’m surprised that I wasn’t scum nominated considering I just subbed in. I’m guessing it had more to do with Ekko than me. I voted myself half hoping Ratchet might have really been trying to cult me lol.

So neither Cal or Ratchet’s arguments fully work rn. I’m a little suspicious of both which is why I picked them, but Cal more so than Ratchet now. I probably wouldn’t have picked Ratchet in hindsight

I don’t like Cal’s push that Ratchet is scum who wanted to cult me and how he has pushed that at face value today without any elaboration or solving around it beyond just repeating it. He jumped on that angle really hard after I brought it up and he didn’t even entertain that I might be a suboptimal pick for Ratchet to try to cult since he’s literally the first person who’d get accused of picking me. For Cal to be scum it would mean that scum nominated one of their own instead of town. It probably wouldn’t be the worst idea considering it could somewhat be used to push a clear on Cal if he lost the election.

If Cal is town then I wasn’t a big fan of Ratchet’s argument that Cal and I should both be lynched back to back (but specifically in that order looking for a perma seat). The idea against him being that if town just lynched both then that’s possibly two mislynches right there. But the fact that Ratchet asked me to claim seems pretty counter intuitive to that agenda bc now I’m telling you guys that I won so his elaboration to only lynch the second one if the first doesn’t flip perma seat doesn’t really synergize with the lynch both agenda. If he’s scum who's actually trying to make that happen it requires some level of incompetence in his plan lol.

The only angle I can really make out for scum Ratchet is if he tried to cult Cal, distance from him before he goes down, and then hope him flipping scum propels Cal forward the rest of the game. But if Ratchet’s scum trying to do that then Idk how I won bc I probably required Ratchet’s vote to win. If Ratchet didn’t vote for me then Idk how I got here lol. Me winning the election is as much a favor toward Ratchet being town for me as anything the more I think about it bc I feel like he’s one of the people who’d be likely to vote for me as town.

Also I’m Norway for what it’s worth. Idk if flavor claiming even matters here.
@solis @Pot Goblin @Rottkins
@anon @JoSeungHun7335 @RippedCal @Joygirl
@Ratchet @oddoddfruit @Xlaw
 
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Joygirl1

I´m really not happy about the fact that we only have two options for this vote, if somehow both of them turn out to be town then we are screwed anyway. Why are there even so less options, Professor claimed he nominated both, so what are the other PSM doing, did they miss the nomination or did they all choose the same candidates?

Still don´t know what to do, my own feelings say I should vote Ratchtet but Prof´s argumentation seems plausible.

@oddoddfruit Me neither^^
I just have a bad feeling about this, in the end really Ratchet and Cal both turned out to be town and the maf was safe for this lynch all along which would be quite the worst case scenario.
 
Alright. No one is going to be able to talk me out of claiming here anyway so I’ll just skip the polite part and do it considering it’s late, I may crash whenever, and Idk how soon I’ll be awake tomorrow for EOD.

I won the election. Which tells me Cal can’t be culted. I’m not positive that means he can’t be scum but he at least didn’t get culted by the election.

I’m surprised I got elected and I’m surprised that I wasn’t scum nominated considering I just subbed in. I’m guessing it had more to do with Ekko than me. I voted myself half hoping Ratchet might have really been trying to cult me lol.

So neither Cal or Ratchet’s arguments fully work rn. I’m a little suspicious of both which is why I picked them, but Cal more so than Ratchet now. I probably wouldn’t have picked Ratchet in hindsight

I don’t like Cal’s push that Ratchet is scum who wanted to cult me and how he has pushed that at face value today without any elaboration or solving around it beyond just repeating it. He jumped on that angle really hard after I brought it up and he didn’t even entertain that I might be a suboptimal pick for Ratchet to try to cult since he’s literally the first person who’d get accused of picking me. For Cal to be scum it would mean that scum nominated one of their own instead of town. It probably wouldn’t be the worst idea considering it could somewhat be used to push a clear on Cal if he lost the election.

If Cal is town then I wasn’t a big fan of Ratchet’s argument that Cal and I should both be lynched back to back (but specifically in that order looking for a perma seat). The idea against him being that if town just lynched both then that’s possibly two mislynches right there. But the fact that Ratchet asked me to claim seems pretty counter intuitive to that agenda bc now I’m telling you guys that I won so his elaboration to only lynch the second one if the first doesn’t flip perma seat doesn’t really synergize with the lynch both agenda. If he’s scum who's actually trying to make that happen it requires some level of incompetence in his plan lol.

The only angle I can really make out for scum Ratchet is if he tried to cult Cal, distance from him before he goes down, and then hope him flipping scum propels Cal forward the rest of the game. But if Ratchet’s scum trying to do that then Idk how I won bc I probably required Ratchet’s vote to win. If Ratchet didn’t vote for me then Idk how I got here lol. Me winning the election is as much a favor toward Ratchet being town for me as anything the more I think about it bc I feel like he’s one of the people who’d be likely to vote for me as town.

Also I’m Norway for what it’s worth. Idk if flavor claiming even matters here.
Fuck off I've been solving all game it's not my fault if you haven't read any of it. Look at ratchets lackluster disappearance and then his failure to make any attempt to solve or divert an awful wagon yesterday. This is crap

I'm done with this game
 

Pot Goblin

Conejo Blanco
Dang, I wake up and see that the thread hasn't moved much since last night. I'm going to hold on voting for now as I would like to hear from both nominations if possible.
:crazwhat:

@RippedCal, I read through some posts and it seemed to have originated from his actions on the last day phase. Was there anything else that convinced you to go for Ratchet or was it mostly the last day phase plus general vibes?

@Ratchet, it seems like you had your suspicions of Cal for a while now. Does that stem from his general play style or has it just been his decisions in general?

It seems like a good amount of people are confused right now and don't know how to approach the current situation. Maybe a statement from each nominee stating their case would help clear the air a little.
:choppawhat:
 

Pot Goblin

Conejo Blanco
@RippedCal, I read through some posts and it seemed to have originated from his actions on the last day phase. Was there anything else that convinced you to go for Ratchet or was it mostly the last day phase plus general vibes?
By this, I meant that the last day phase was when his push on Ratchet originated.
 
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