This is the part where you need to support it with manga fact. Has it been said anywhere that if they use it , it will tarnish his name? Have any of them been shown to reject getting the sword?
You really need to brush up on your samurai code. Doing anything against their masters will, whether dead or alive, is one of, if not the most inextricably and incorrigibly disrespectful act possible in samurai law. These guys are based on samurai, in a country based on Sengoku Japan, where Samurai were at their most prominent. It is ridiculous to even question this shit. These guys are toiling and working so hard against all the odds and have been for 20 fucking years - at no point would these guys ever do something, which, in their eyes, would be so disrespectful, idiotic and sinful.
No, none have been shown, so, the statement is ambiguous, not certain. This is the point I've been trying to get across. It is ambiguous, therefore, we cannot treat it as if it says one thing or the other. We need to know more before drawing sensible conclusions.
First of all this makes no sense and is entirely false. Kinemon specifically stated that Asura, Denjiro and Kawamatsu were on the same level.
He specifically stated that Oden brought such great samurai to their knees and that the three of them were necessary for their plan. Nothing about power was ever mentioned.
You really need to read the manga so that you stop making these kinds of claimed. We do know why he is amazed, it is literally in the chapter (the only man other than Oden to tame the sword).....
It is obviously a statement of fact because you know it was stated by the one who is guarding the sword...in front of everyone who knows Oden since their childhood.....
It is a factual statement, but facts need context, which we lack, as I have been telling you. I'm not saying it's not true, I'm just saying it isn't necessarily the whole picture. And even if it were true and somehow, Asura Doji broke out of character and tried to steal the sword from Hiyori and then use it himself and failed, we do not know what conditions are needed to be able to use Enma. Is it potential based? Integrity based? Power based? We cannot say. If it is power based then you are correct, but if it is not, then you're incorrect and I am correct. As I've said, it is ambiguous. We dont fucking know. Stop acting as if Tenguyama Hitetsu is gospel when all we have is word of mouth to support his statement.
All is looking good until we come to this point.
Zoro has already shown something better than that scale when he faced an admiral twice.
It is your opinion again that Zoro needs the power up to reach that plane.....this is your problem. The manga is linking Zoro to Kaido, that's the upcoming demand for Zoro. He is getting the sword which was used to injure Kaido to fight who? Obviously Kaido... that's how portrayal works.
If that's not enough, we come back to the main point, Zoro is the only one to be able to tame the sword which is better than anything Asura has done
Faced an Admiral and being effective against an Admiral are totally different kettles of fish my guy
Linking Zoro to Kaido? Perhaps, but it's also linking Luffy, Law and Kid to Kaido too. And we all know who will actually end up defeating Kaido (Luffy). 4V1 defeating Kaido and playing a role is arguably less impressive than defeating a YC1-3 1v1. Im not sure about that because it's too early to say for sure.
The Manga has also linked Zoro with King and Kyoshiro, so there's that loose end too. He needs to overcome those before he can do anything to Kaido, and Enma is how he is going to do it. Therefore, current Zoro cannot deal with Kyoshiro and certainly not King until he has mastered Enma - as i've said before this is the purpose of his powerup.
And that helps your point how? It still says in the manga that Zoro has tamed the sword. Whether it can be switched with master doesn't change the claim itself.
Again you keep stating lots of things without stating anything significant. Did Zoro use haki vs Kyoshiro? Did he use named attacks?
Answering these is what you need in order to determine whether he was going all out or not....quite simple
I'm just pointing out that you failed at being a grammar nazi - nothing more really. You were just trying to be condescending but it didn't work. It can be switched with master, and both words have multiple meanings. It's down to the reader to interpret what is typed/written correctly.
Fuck sake dude - you never look at the flip side. Did Kyoshiro use Haki? Did he use named attacks? No? Well it's back to square one for this argument.
