Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1046 Spoiler Discussion

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

this logic of calling luffy nerfed then just about every competitive fight he's been nerfed
cause the vast amount of his opponents will hurt him significantly
so odd to argue that as a nerf.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Everyone is bored of Wano sadly

Oh same. Onigashima has become a mess of subplots

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

Alone the fact that Kaido tank lot of G5 attacks show that the one OKG wouldn´t knock him out, but his attack would knock out G4 Luffy.
It is clearly that Drunk Hybrid Kaido would win against G4, yet the same monster still keep tanking hits.
Same Kaido who took over 50named attacks, who fought 16 different characters, low diffed entire scabbards with just Base form.
Yeah it is clear that Kaido is stronger then Luffy, this will change perhaps after wano or when he beat and defeat BB.^^
However current Luffy is easily a mid top tier if not higher.

I partially agree with you, but the point of my comment was just ironic, because people speculated at the beginning of luffy versus kaido, that luffy's base was equal to hybrid kaidou, and because of that wrong opinion, they went further and they said that Luffy's G4 would make kaidou a toy, and both ideas turned out to be wrong.

And now there's been a comeback, instead of Luffy fighting the drunk kaido in his assassin mode, G5 is facing the Hybrid Kaidou that they said was the same as base Luffy. LOL

 

[Finalbeta]

If base Luffy is equal to Kaido, what more does Luffy need to do to reach that monster Samurai level?

That meme of Base Luffy = Kaido was a nightmare to handle in the battledome

 

[Geo]

Alone the fact that Kaido tank lot of G5 attacks show that the one OKG wouldn´t knock him out, but his attack would knock out G4 Luffy.
It is clearly that Drunk Hybrid Kaido would win against G4, yet the same monster still keep tanking hits.
Same Kaido who took over 50named attacks, who fought 16 different characters, low diffed entire scabbards with just Base form.
Yeah it is clear that Kaido is stronger then Luffy, this will change perhaps after wano or when he beat and defeat BB.^^
However current Luffy is easily a mid top tier if not higher.

no mid top tier character in their strongest mode will do as bad as Luffy has done against a heavily weakened Kaido

 

[Finalbeta]

Yes awaken Kaido vs all Strawhat is what i could ask for anything

I don't remember the last time the SHs were defeating someone with group effort bar the ancient Oars times 🤔

That would not be so bad

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

no mid top tier character in their strongest mode will do as bad as Luffy has done against a heavily weakened Kaido

not so sure about that

 

[GoldDiamond]

hes "nerfed" because kaido has been beating him
that's not a nerf
that's called losing.


kaido on the other hand had dealt with damage from other forces who arent luffy

Sure, but that doesn't change the fact that luffy is in way worse condition then kaido is.

 

[HA001]

not so sure about that

Hes right. Kaido is on his ass and he's laughing at luffy any serious top tier takes over when luffy did kaidos done

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Sure, but that doesn't change the fact that luffy is in way worse condition then kaido is.

yeah he is but that is a consequence of what he lacked as a fighter entering this fight
so its not a nerf
its down to his own deficiencies . a lot of which he improved on as the battle went on.

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

That can't be germa in the cover story. Wrong shoes

 

[Brendan Schaub]

If base Luffy is equal to Kaido, what more does Luffy need to do to reach that monster Samurai level?

surpassed long time ago

 

[Geo]

not so sure about that

Well I'm sure about it

 

[Sir Yasheen]

That can't be germa in the cover story. Wrong shoes

No boosters

 

[Jailer]

Kaido without his DF -- FS , Adv COC , Speed , Physical Strength

Akainu without his DF -- Dog fodder

This is Akainu without his df:

 

[GoldDiamond]

yeah he is but that is a consequence of what he lacked as a fighter entering this fight
so its not a nerf
its down to his own deficiencies . a lot of which he improved on as the battle went on.

My bad for the wording when I used the word nerf, the meaning was suppose to mean hes just worse condition, yeah my fault for getting you confused.

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

And I also love how people are using the fact that luffy is heavily weakened to justify something or put him on the same pedestal as kaidou or even worse for stamina when:

1. Who weakened luffy to this point was kaidou alone, it was kaidou who left luffy like this, why should this be a demerit for kaidou?!
2. Who weakened kaidou to this point was not just luffy alone like kaidou did with luffy, it was luffy + 16 people.
3. I doubt kaido would be kneeling now due to lack of energy if he hadn't faced the other 16 characters and been running non-stop all this time.

lower the ball

 

[omegalul]

people do realise luffy is doing this from a near dead state right? Using that logic would mean kaido isn't a top tier

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Hes right. Kaido is on his ass and he's laughing at luffy any serious top tier takes over when luffy did kaidos done

define who a mid top tier is and then point to the evidence in the story that makes you so sure they do better
there's literally a statement from kaido admitting luffy could go toe to toe with him before luffy's last loss.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

That meme of Base Luffy = Kaido was a nightmare to handle in the battledome

Base Luffy = hybrid Kaido > Oden, Luffy is currently using G5.
Everyone waiting for Luffy to be compared to a swordsman that he allegedly surpassed 2 power ups ago and in base.