Questions & Mysteries Who is the traitor?

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Jew D. Boy

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#41
It's obvious to me.
Traitor is Kanjuro
I've said it before, and I'll continue to say it, the traitor MUST BE someone close to the alliance to make a big impact for drama. Law surely isn't the person.
And Shinubu being a gag character and annoying for fans is only a distraction by Oda.

It's someone from the 9 red scabbard to make it shocking and to use it to build a very big rivalry for Kinemon and have him be his main fight of the arc.

Raizo is surely to fight Fukorokojo, so it's not Raizo.
Red Scabbards in Wano did not know of Raizo being in Zou.

On the other hand, Doffy worked with Kaido, Kanjuro stayed on Dressrosa for a while, and he's the ONLY person (outside of Minks) who could have conveyed the message of Raizo being in Zou by telling Doflamingo that he is actually secretly working under Orochi, and because Doffy wanted to make sure he's not lying, he kept him imprisoned just in case until Jack confirms of the story. Which is how Jack went to Zou even before Mingo was taken down.

However, by the time Kinemon arrived to Dressrosa again, Kanjuro had to play along.

Did any wonder why did Kinemon, Kanjuro and Raizo's ship was sabotaged when they left Wano in search of Zou???
This is not random, Kanjuro sabotaged it on purpose

The traitor OBVIOUSLY is someone who had a vivre card of Raizo. I do not believe that anyone from Wano country had this except the 9 red scabbard who traveled in time.

And Some may say it's O-kiku, but I'm betting on Kanjuro all the way. He's the best character to create a great impact on Kinemon's emotion cause he looks like he's the closest to Kinemon. Yet, he's suspeciously VERY VERY quiet as a character. And I'm telling you, Shinobu was the first to suspecting of a traitor and leakage, a traitor would never suggest that and will ONLY start to make blames after some people start to create the rumor of a traitor. But her starting it means she's worried and is not trusting anyone due to her spending 20 years in pain from Orochi and Kaido. So, she might be a pain in the ass, but she's just a distraction from Oda just like Law.

Kanjuro on the other hand, who appeared like he's telling Shinubu to stop accusing Law is only a way to make people less suspecious of him by acting like a peaceful guy. It's some kind of twisted reversed psychology thing haha

So, yeah, my bet is on Kanjuro.

Kinemon vs Kanjuro would be a freaking awesome thing to witness

Besides, as one of the red scabbard who witessed the horror of Dragons, yet he chose to draw Ryuunosuke which bugged Kinemon a lot. Could that also be a hint of him following a Dragon orders (Kaido)?
I was already on the “Kanjuro as saboteur” train, but this clinched it. He’s been hanging out in the background for most of the time we’ve known him, so who better to come from nowhere and betray the alliance??
 
#44
i want the traitor to be someone totally unexpected. a surprise twist. we will see. carrot might be smiling in that panel but minks have undying loyalty to those they trust. at least i think. Kanjuro is just quiet unlike kinemon. its just how he is. it could possibly be law, or ashura those are my two bets. but hopefully not. lets see.
 
#45
I'm all for Kanjuro, but one thing still bothers me:

Why did he risk his life to save Kin'emon and Momonosuke? That seems very out of character for a traitor.
Maybe he didn't. Could have been some plan with Doflamingo. From what I can remember
-the three of them arrive at Dressrosa
-Kanjuro explores the town on his own, while Momo and Kin see Doflamingo attack a gladiator
-Momo gets on the wrong ship somehow
-Kanjuro is captured
-we see him again at the bottom of the toy pit

There's a lot of room there for a plot with Doflamingo. What was Kanjuro doing when he was on his own in Dressrosa? Did he talk to Doffy, is that where Doflamingo learned who Momo and Kin were? How did Momo get on the wrong ship? Was Kanjuro "captured" to delay Kine'mon from chasing Momo? Why did Doflamingo leave him at the bottom of the toy pit unharmed instead of torturing him for info and getting Sugar to turn him into a toy?
 
#47
For me, it is 99% chance Kanjuro.
Everything points to either him or Kinemon ( 1% chance)
For real!

The whole idea of Jack arriving and only demanding Raizo! Not also Kinemon, Not Kanjuro! Not Momonosuke!

This basically clears ANY character we saw from Wano. Cause they never knew that all 4 got separated.

As for the minks. Jack already poisoned them and they were all hanged and tortured, if the traitor is there, he would have given the intel to Jack EASILY and Jack would have went to the whale forest.

Which only leaves Raizo/Kinemon/Kanjuro/Momo as traitors

- Momo is impossible.
- Kinemon is hard for me to believe
- Raizu, well Jack was coming for his head, so it makes it slim as fuck
- Kanjuro, well that's a different story Lol
 

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#48
Shinobu is the traitor. She has to be or else I won't see her face getting punched lol

Well, the whole notion of her picking up on law for not much of a reason speaks of that there is something suspicious. It's like she deliberately tried to create some division between law and the alliance.

Once law got separated we came to know that someone approached him to take care of Hawkins. This is also suspicious as why anyone would do so?

So, Shinobu that started all of this is my bet
 
#49
I'm all for Kanjuro, but one thing still bothers me:

Why did he risk his life to save Kin'emon and Momonosuke? That seems very out of character for a traitor.
Did he risk his life?
Or did Kinemon just happened to imagine he sacrificed himself for Kinemon to go after Momo?

If Kinemon and Kanjuro during their presence knew that Doffy has connection to Kaido, then by all means Kanjuro never cared of staying behind because he counted on his connection to Orochi and then to Kaido for Doffy to spare him.

In fact, now that I think about it, what if Momo getting on the wrong ship to be shipped with others kids to Ceasar to expriment on them was actually orchestrated by Kanjuro to separate Momo and actually leave his fate to the unknown harsh experiments believing he would never find home again!

Point is, Kanjuro is the only person who can be tied to all the misfortune happening, it's not funny
 
#50
And if Kanjuro spilled the beans to Doffy and became a snitch, why would Doflamingo still keep him imprisoned in that hellhole wid no food or water??
Could be several reasons.
Maybe he wasn't sure if Kanjuuro's story was actually true and waited for confirmation before releasing him. Only very few people should have knowledge about him being a snitch, otherwise he simply wouldn't be a very good snitch.
 
#52
Shinubu :D is the traitor
And how would that connect the Wano arc with Zou?
This whole "traitor storyline" has started way back on Zou and actually kept getting bigger from there on. Shinobu wouldn't even have any emotional impact at all. Nobody really cares for her anyway. Not to mention that it would be insanely dumb from her to actually bring up the possibility of a traitor again, when it was in fact her. That's not some kindergarten-stuff, where the traitor starts to call others a traitor. It would be way too obvious for Oda.
 
#53
Could be several reasons.
Maybe he wasn't sure if Kanjuuro's story was actually true and waited for confirmation before releasing him. Only very few people should have knowledge about him being a snitch, otherwise he simply wouldn't be a very good snitch.
Exactly!
Doffy is a careful and smart man
He never woud say "you are delusional or lying"

and he never would trust him completely!
So, he checks out his story before making any stupid decision
 
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#54
And how would that connect the Wano arc with Zou?
This whole "traitor storyline" has started way back on Zou and actually kept getting bigger from there on. Shinobu wouldn't even have any emotional impact at all. Nobody really cares for her anyway. Not to mention that it would be insanely dumb from her to actually bring up the possibility of a traitor again, when it was in fact her. That's not some kindergarten-stuff, where the traitor starts to call others a traitor. It would be way too obvious for Oda.
she met them before and she knew that they were going to Zou , the beast pirates knew their destination and knew that Kinemon and Kanjuru were in Dressrosa , and traitors always point to other people even in real life. and if she is the traitor she would wish to destabilized the alliance , the best way to let then distrust each other
 
#55
I still believe it has to be a mink. Kanjuro being the traitor would be cool but I'm not sure if Oda would really do that. He is one of the red scabbards. Carrot however was absent for a very long time, she never got any screentime even though she was kind of set up to be the next straw hat. So I think it has to be her.
 
#56
I still believe it has to be a mink. Kanjuro being the traitor would be cool but I'm not sure if Oda would really do that. He is one of the red scabbards.
So what with him being a red scabbard actually? While, being a mink Oda already strongly said how minks as a whole are very loyal race, the whole kingdom went through all Jack's torture in Zou arc just to protect 1 Raizo only.
While 9 red scabbards or samurais in general aren't very highlighted to be the loyal type, considering Orochi a native of Wano is also a backstabber.

Carrot however was absent for a very long time, she never got any screentime even though she was kind of set up to be the next straw hat. So I think it has to be her.
Carrot actually got shown several times, when Oda showed Inuarashi and his mink team. About why she never got any screentime, let's just hope it stays that way.
 
#58
I still believe it has to be a mink. Kanjuro being the traitor would be cool but I'm not sure if Oda would really do that. He is one of the red scabbards. Carrot however was absent for a very long time, she never got any screentime even though she was kind of set up to be the next straw hat. So I think it has to be her.
But we've discussed that already:
Everyone of the minks knew where Raizo was hiding. If the traitor was really a mink, he/she would have told Jack the location. Or do you think he/she would've said to Jack "Yes, Raizo is on Zou. I won't tell you his exact location though, haha!"
Jack didn't know where Raizo was on Zou. He simply knew that he had to be there somewhere. Therefore the traitor being a mink just doesn't make sense.
 
#60
But we've discussed that already:
Everyone of the minks knew where Raizo was hiding. If the traitor was really a mink, he/she would have told Jack the location. Or do you think he/she would've said to Jack "Yes, Raizo is on Zou. I won't tell you his exact location though, haha!"
Jack didn't know where Raizo was on Zou. He simply knew that he had to be there somewhere. Therefore the traitor being a mink just doesn't make sense.
Who knows. Maybe Carrot just told him he is on Zou but not exactly where he is. Kanjuro being the traitor makes even less sense though.
 
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