Powers & Abilities What are Zoro's asura and Sanji's jambe? Can others do it?

#1


  1. How did zoro gain the ability?
  2. How did sanji gain the ability?
  3. Are their other "normal" humans able to do the same as either of them or at least similar?
Imo
  1. Either some bloodline ability from ryuma or an ability from one of his swords that allow him to do asura along with other spiritual like attacks
  2. Either some bloodline ability from either sora or judge's family trees or its some science thing from the drug sora took
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    • If either is a bloodline thing then ima say both yes and no
      • Other characters probably come from special families and shit. So they might have some ability or something passed down. Will we see that? Idk
      • Their specific bloodline abilities? No
    • If its a sword thing for zoro than it's likely other swords can help do something similar
    • If its a science thing for sanji then yeah cause you can probably do whatever you want if you sciencey enough in fiction in general
 
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#3


  1. How did zoro gain the ability?
  2. How did sanji gain the ability?
  3. Are their other "normal" humans able to do the same as either of them or at least similar?
Imo
  1. Either some bloodline ability from ryuma or an ability from one of his swords that allow him to do asura along with other spiritual like attacks
  2. Either some bloodline ability from either sora or judge's family trees or its some science thing from the drug sora took
  3. .
    • If either is a bloodline thing then ima say both yes and no
      • Other characters probably come from special families and shit. So they might have some ability or something passed down. Will we see that? Idk
      • Their specific bloodline abilities? No
    • If its a sword thing for zoro than it's likely other swords can help do something similar
    • If its a science thing for sanji then yeah cause you can probably do whatever you want if you sciencey enough in fiction in general
Ironically I was meaning to make a thread on this EXACT topic haha, glad to see someone else did it at least!

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#4
Producing fire's not that rare so I don't think it's super complicated, some people in OP can just produce fire if their passion is hot enough maybe. I wouldn't put these two abilities in the same conversation tbh since it never became the base to Zoro's fighting style like it has Sanji, and we haven't seen anyone else with this asura ability.
Asura will probably never get explained as Oda doesn't like addressing Zoro mysteries for some reason.
 

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#5
Asura is a manifestation of zoro's conquering spirit, Kaku used the kanji for haki to describe it if i'm not mistaken.
Sanji's fire comes from his emotions and his Lunarian dna allows him to use it.
 
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Producing fire's not that rare so I don't think it's super complicated, some people in OP can just produce fire if their passion is hot enough maybe. I wouldn't put these two abilities in the same conversation tbh since it never became the base to Zoro's fighting style like it has Sanji, and we haven't seen anyone else with this asura ability.
Asura will probably never get explained as Oda doesn't like addressing Zoro mysteries for some reason.
Creating fire from your body is rare. Flame users in this series cheat when creating flames.

- Flame dials
- Techniques
- Using oil etc

Only people who actually can create flames from themselves is DF users ( Mera fruit, Heat Fruit, Dragon Fruit and Nika Fruit)....everyone else is tricks.

Sanji is the only one who can create flames like DF users.

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Sanji diable jambe comes from Sora's drug that gave him emotions.

Diable Jambe -> Passion -> Emotions -> Sora's Drug. Hes not a pathetic Lunarian

As for Asura its a Shimotuksi lineage thing. Its not Haki or willpower thing... or Luffy would also have it.
 

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Creating fire from your body is rare. Flame users in this series cheat when creating flames.

- Flame dials
- Techniques
- Using oil etc

Only people who actually can create flames from themselves is DF users ( Mera fruit, Heat Fruit, Dragon Fruit and Nika Fruit)....everyone else is tricks.

Sanji is the only one who can create flames like DF users.

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Sanji diable jambe comes from Sora's drug that gave him emotions.

Diable Jambe -> Passion -> Emotions -> Sora's Drug. Hes not a pathetic Lunarian

As for Asura its a Shimotuksi lineage thing. Its not Haki or willpower thing... or Luffy would also have it.
 
#17
Creating fire from your body is rare. Flame users in this series cheat when creating flames.

- Flame dials
- Techniques
- Using oil etc

Only people who actually can create flames from themselves is DF users ( Mera fruit, Heat Fruit, Dragon Fruit and Nika Fruit)....everyone else is tricks.

Sanji is the only one who can create flames like DF users.

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Sanji diable jambe comes from Sora's drug that gave him emotions.

Diable Jambe -> Passion -> Emotions -> Sora's Drug. Hes not a pathetic Lunarian

As for Asura its a Shimotuksi lineage thing. Its not Haki or willpower thing... or Luffy would also have it.
If you think it's Sora's drug that's responsible, that falls under being a 'trick', doesn't it? Give him a drug or give him a fruit, the result is the same.

Foxfire style doesn't use friction or oil, and even if it does it's the same ability. King can do it with more control, big mom can create prometheus, Oda even gave Luffy a very similar ability. If Oda wanted to make Sanji's passion so unique then why make the ability itself so common? Creating fire from your body is rare if you hold it under a weird microscope and forget that everybody uses fire. All I'm saying is they aren't comparable in terms of rarity/uniqueness.
 

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#18
Didnt you just state this...




Its cute you wanna get my attention and all. But youve already debunked yourself.
don't act like they're both contradictory,fire is something many people in OP world can use without the mera mera fruit and everyone uses emotions to some extent.
That's how kinemon and zoro light their swords on fire whenever they want.
Sanji got the idea from wanze and from the fact that he heats up when angry something that the others don't do.
His lunarian dna allows his fire to get stronger with more of judge's modifications too.
 
#19
If you think it's Sora's drug that's responsible, that falls under being a 'trick', doesn't it? Give him a drug or give him a fruit, the result is the same.

Foxfire style doesn't use friction or oil, and even if it does it's the same ability. King can do it with more control, big mom can create prometheus, Oda even gave Luffy a very similar ability. If Oda wanted to make Sanji's passion so unique then why make the ability itself so common? Creating fire from your body is rare if you hold it under a weird microscope and forget that everybody uses fire. All I'm saying is they aren't comparable in terms of rarity/uniqueness.
It doesnt. The drug is like a DF and Sanji was born with. Sanji has completely control over it. Its not like he has to bring out a specific weapon, use a specific technique etc to create flame. He bursts into flames whenever he wants.

Foxfire is sword technique that allows. Kinemon cant create flames without his sword or techniques. I forgot about Albert and Meme is a DF user. And thats why I stated Nika fruit numpty.

Yes creating flames from your body is rare only Lunarians and Sanji can do it without a DF. Thats why Queen thought Sanji was a Lunarian.
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don't act like they're both contradictory,fire is something many people in OP world can use without the mera mera fruit and everyone uses emotions to some extent.
That's how kinemon and zoro light their swords on fire whenever they want.
Sanji got the idea from wanze and from the fact that he heats up when angry something that the others don't do.
His lunarian dna allows his fire to get stronger with more of judge's modifications too.
Lmao this is some sad nonsense mental gymnastics.

Imagine changing your opinion and reasoning to argue with someone. All I have to say is....

 

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#20
It doesnt. The drug is like a DF and Sanji was born with. Sanji has completely control over it. Its not like he has to bring out a specific weapon, use a specific technique etc to create flame. He bursts into flames whenever he wants.

Foxfire is sword technique that allows. Kinemon cant create flames without his sword or techniques. I forgot about Albert and Meme is a DF user. And thats why I stated Nika fruit numpty.

Yes creating flames from your body is rare only Lunarians and Sanji can do it without a DF. Thats why Queen thought Sanji was a Lunarian.
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Lmao this is some sad nonsense mental gymnastics.

Imagine changing your opinion and reasoning to spite someone. All I have to say is....

i'm using the explanations oda gave us for it ,friction,emotions and lunarian powers when combining all of them his leg burns hotter
 
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