Powers & Abilities As a Black Blade, Enma Will Absorb the Opponent's Ryuo Rather Than Zoro's

[cleanmrpostman]

At the end of the day the best fights come when the opponent isnt nerfed and are at full power. This allows the protagonist to have a real challenge. This ability ruins that.

If this ability only works on weaklings its literally as useless as Base CoC used to be. Just a fodder clearing power. Who tf cares.

By your logic this would not nerf the opponent. Zoro wouldn't be able to sap armament whenever and however he wanted. And since this is news to you, the opponent can still have strong abilities that pose a challenge to Zoro. You seem so set on this ability making Zoro Jesus Christ of One Piece, you have no creativity.

And if this turned out to be a fodder-clearing power, would you stop whining?

 

[Chrono]

No I didn't window licker. I just as usual proved you wrong. I said nothing about zoro.

What did you prove wrong ? I was talking about Luffy's powers....you brought up plot convinient situations that didnt involve his powers.

If you Ztards ever read before typing this forum wouldnt be the cesspool that it is.

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By your logic this would not nerf the opponent. Zoro wouldn't be able to sap armament whenever and however he wanted. And since this is news to you, the opponent can still have strong abilities that pose a challenge to Zoro. You seem so set on this ability making Zoro Jesus Christ of One Piece, you have no creativity.

And if this turned out to be a fodder-clearing power, would you stop whining?

No this is literally the back tracking logic you just created right now. Im just following the train of thought.

Yes if this was a fodder cleaning power only ....I would. Cause then it wouldnt effect any of Zoro's real fights. But of course we know the purpose of the thread wasnt that was it. You want this to be his big PU. Something he can use against Mihawk.

 

[HA001]

What did you prove wrong ? I was talking about Luffy's powers....you brought up plot convinient situations that didnt involve his powers.

If you Ztards ever read before typing this forum wouldnt be the cesspool that it is.

Cry loser
Luffy and sanjis fodder asses need there enemies nerfed just for them to survive

 

[ConquistadoR]

If Oda actually makes this happen, then be prepared for dozen's of salty threads on a daily basis about how character X's haki helped Zoro beat character X.

A group of fully grown adults were already writing essays about how Kozuki Oden's haki was lingering on Enma despite the manga explicitly stating it doesn't, only god knows what they'd do if Oda comes out and says there's even a remote possibility of Enma being imbued with the haki of a character not named Zoro.

 

[Chrono]

Cry loser
Luffy and sanjis fodder asses need there enemies nerfed just for them to survive

Yh and weve finally got to the root cause of you quoting me.

For my attention. Goodbye

 

[HA001]

Yh and weve finally got to the root cause of you quoting me.

For my attention. Goodbye

Concession accepted

 

[KonyaruIchi]

If Oda actually makes this happen, then be prepared for dozen's of salty threads on a daily basis about how character X's haki helped Zoro beat character X.

A group of fully grown adults were already writing essays about how Kozuki Oden's haki was lingering on Enma despite the manga explicitly stating it doesn't, only god knows what they'd do if Oda comes out and says there's even a remote possibility of Enma being imbued with the haki of a character not named Zoro.

I feel like regardless of whether or not Enma had the ability to absorb others' haki people would complain. It's just complaining about whatever's trendy to complain about, usually.

 

[Chrono]

Concession accepted

What concession. You literally switched arguments.

From incorrectly quoting me on plot oriented scenarios in reply to Luffy and Zoro's powers. To then changing goalposts and talking about Luffy and Sanji having nerfed opponents. Still having nothing to do with my point of Luffy's Powers not nerfing his opponents.

You conceded when you switched the argument to irrelevant points I have no interest in discussing.

If you want to dicuss with me. Quote me properly and show me how Luffy's powers nerf his opponents. That was the original post you quoted with that nonsense.

 

[HA001]

What concession. You literally switched arguments.

From incorrectly quoting me on plot oriented scenarios in reply to Luffy and Zoro's powers. To then changing goalposts and talking about Luffy and Sanji having nerfed opponents. Still having nothing to do with my point of Luffy's Powers not nerfing his opponents.

You conceded when you switched the argument about irrelevant points have no interest in discussing.

If you want to dicuss with me. Quote me properly and show me how Luffy's powers nerf his opponents. That was original post you quoted with nonsense.

No you're changing the argument.
You crying about zoro nerfing opponents when's luffy and sanji ONLY EXCLUSIVELY beat nerfed opponents
Who nerfs them is irrelevant when in the end all luffy and sanji beat are people who are nerfed.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

I don't quite like it tbh, the idea is cool for a fight, but doesn't really sound like Zoro

Sucking the enemy's energy doesn't suit the Bushido Code

Not for Mihawk or Zoro, both who love to fight fair

Mihawk a vampire so it sounds like something he will do

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I said nerfing your opponent is lame. Not having a nerfed opponent.

Either way mental gymnastics he used to reach Queen is sad af. Sanji and Queen have nothing to do with the convo. Yet brings them up due to obssession.

What? Thats not nerfing your opponent. Thats using your ability.

 

[Chrono]

No you're changing the argument.
You crying about zoro nerfing opponents when's luffy and sanji ONLY EXCLUSIVELY beat nerfed opponents
Who nerfs them is irrelevant when in the end all luffy and sanji beat are people who are nerfed.

Again has nothing to do with my point. Maybe if you quoted an early post of mine when I was discussing this then you'd have some leeway.

Like I said I wasnt talking about this. Im strictly talking about the connotations of having abilities that weaken your opponent. And how they are a bad concept in general for protagonists.

 

[ConquistadoR]

I feel like regardless of whether or not Enma had the ability to absorb others' haki people would complain. It's just complaining about whatever's trendy to complain about, usually.

Yes I agree with that.

And in this specific case, it was to drag down Zoro since a good number of people in the group who were crying about Oden's haki did not expect Zoro's performance on the rooftop and the "Zorotards" who were ridiculed and laughed at for years for saying the same thing were proven right. And hence, the salty downplay.

 

[HA001]

Again has nothing to do with my point. Maybe if you quoted an early post of mine when I was discussing this then you'd have some leeway.

Like I said I wasnt talking about this. Im strictly talking about the connotations of having abilities that weaken your opponent. And how they are a bad concept in general for protagonists.

Cry has everything to do with you being OK for sanji to beat nerfed people and are crying incase zoro gets to do the same

 

[ConquistadoR]

Its funny seeing users crying about abilities which nerf your opponents in this thread when abilities like the Yami Yami no Mi and R-Room -an actual protagonist ability which hard countered/nerfed the ability of an antagonist in the canon manga- exist.

 

[HA001]

Its funny seeing users crying about abilities which nerf your opponents in this thread when abilities like the Yami Yami no Mi and R-Room -an actual protagonist ability which hard countered/nerfed the ability of an antagonist in the canon manga- exist.

Everyone else gets to have nerfs but zoro it seems.

 

[Finalbeta]

Ok and ?

Luffy's powers still dont nerf his opponents. That plot did.

Secondly just cause its happened doesnt mean its good writing. Youve effectively brought out the worse moments in OP combat. Youve literally proved the point that Zoro having this ability would just be as bad as those scenarios. Clown ass.

What ability? 🧐

 

[Albino 👑]

Vs

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No diffrence at all. Totally 100% the same
Enma the completely normal and average sword​

 

[ConquistadoR]

Everyone else gets to have nerfs but zoro it seems.

I personally still think it doesn't suit how Zoro's fights/struggles are usually written (I like the idea of him overpowering or beating his opponents at their very best), but its funny to see so much salt over a fucking theory while the same users stayed absolutely silent when R-room was revealed lmao.

 

[Albino 👑]

Tbf zoro knowing how to cut fire kinda made kings last attack meaningless. Along with his other fire abilities
So he did have some sort of matchup advantage most wouldn't

 

[Chrono]

Cry has everything to do with you being OK for sanji to beat nerfed people and are crying incase zoro gets to do the same

Still not my argument at all.

Hilarious how you berate Sanji on Queen's apparent "nerfs".....but you also want Zoro to do it at the same time.

I personally still think it doesn't suit how Zoro's fights/struggles are usually written (I like the idea of him overpowering or beating his opponents at their very best), but its funny to see so much salt over a fucking theory while the same users stayed absolutely silent when R-room was revealed lmao.

I literally dont get why some of you Ztards are so fucking pressed. Yall cry Zoro is a natural talent and has worked hard for his merit. Yada yada. So when we defend yall and say a nerfing ability doesnt suit Zoro and he shouldnt have. Yall still get mad.

Were not salty due to the ability. Law can have these powers because thats what his DF powers were introduced to do. Thats how he was introduced to fight. Zoro having this ability and being useful against strong opponents will demerit his fight style. Hes a natural swordsman, who trains and shit. Id throught you "hard work" bitches would be the first to understand lol