General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet
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How would Carrot know to associate Nika with Joyboy and the dawn? When Luffy defeats Kaido, Carrot's natural reaction would be "Wow, Luffy is so strong!" not "Wow, Luffy is joyboy and that means he's going to bring the dawn to the world which relates to what Pedro said!" The only people who should have that kind of reaction are Momo, Yamato, and Zunesha.
But if you want to take the word of japanese fans vs someone who regularly talks to the author himself, that's you.
How about the other points I brought up in that post? The DF number theory can't be the only thing you care about.
good to know 👍🏿No offense to greg, I'm aware of who he is and bear him no ill will but nothing he said on that 3rd line is ground-breaking or concrete.
We all know Oda likes to troll if you've read the SBS long enough you'd know that but we also know Oda likes to use witty patterns like this in his story so both can be true. Seeing tho how Nika just so happened to match the devil pattern theory it's pretty obvious who is wrong on this. Don't know why y'all are denying the obvious lol but is whatever we can agree to disagree on this.
It would not be about associating Nika with Joyboy or the dawn, it would be all about connecting Luffy to it's mentor's dream and the will of the mink, the rest can be done later with Carrot asking Nekomamushi about the legend. But what she needs is to make the actual connection other than "wow Luffy is strong" What she needs to think is "Wow Luffy.. is this what Pedro was talking about?"
Everything regarding Carrot is pointing to her becoming a strawhat BUT there is something missing.. that little hint showing that carrot will follow Luffy not just because she wants to have fun again.
In a way, Carrot must have the same type of realization Jimbe had during the war.. the realization that Luffy is more than just a strong and fun friend.
Of course she is.
Everything regarding Carrot is pointing to her becoming a strawhat BUT there is something missing.. that little hint showing that carrot will follow Luffy not just because she wants to have fun again.
In a way, Carrot must have the same type of realization Jimbe had during the war.. the realization that Luffy is more than just a strong and fun friend.
Of course she is.
Nah. But that's a subjective opinion.
Yamato is a supportive/main arc character she was bound to have strong moment just like Vivi had far stronger moments that Robin had on Alabasta.. But this didn't make Vivi a strawhat, it only made her important for the story at hand (Alabasta) just like Yamato's moments are only important for Onigashima and not for a future recruitment.
Yamato is a supportive/main arc character she was bound to have strong moment just like Vivi had far stronger moments that Robin had on Alabasta.. But this didn't make Vivi a strawhat, it only made her important for the story at hand (Alabasta) just like Yamato's moments are only important for Onigashima and not for a future recruitment.
No she isn’t. Carrot has no understanding of Nika and Joyboy.
But first thing first.
Not even Luffy, kaido, Marco or anyone knows about the Nika fruit. He only knows that he awakened his fruit. As far as everyone else is concerned he has the gum gum fruit. The gorosei know and it will be a while before Luffy and the strawhats will find out the truth about it. Just because we know doesn’t mean they know.
second there are a lot of characters that have some understanding of the dawn, the will of D, Joyboy etc. But carrot isn’t one of them. She will realize how important Luffy is when it’s already done.
yamato already knows and she wants to be part of that. That’s why she will join Luffy and become a Nakama.
As somebody who works as a recruiter. I definitely think it is important. If I had to recruit someone for my company it would be Yamato not Larrot.
But first thing first.
Not even Luffy, kaido, Marco or anyone knows about the Nika fruit. He only knows that he awakened his fruit. As far as everyone else is concerned he has the gum gum fruit. The gorosei know and it will be a while before Luffy and the strawhats will find out the truth about it. Just because we know doesn’t mean they know.
second there are a lot of characters that have some understanding of the dawn, the will of D, Joyboy etc. But carrot isn’t one of them. She will realize how important Luffy is when it’s already done.
yamato already knows and she wants to be part of that. That’s why she will join Luffy and become a Nakama.
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As somebody who works as a recruiter. I definitely think it is important. If I had to recruit someone for my company it would be Yamato not Larrot.
Who spoke about Nika or JoyBoy ? It's not about that at all. Read again what I said.
And no, Yamato don't want to sail with Luffy because of his fruits or anything of that sort, she wants to go because she wants to sail the sea and because she thinks that as Ace's brother, Luffy would give her a place on his ship. Nothing more (at least for the moment)
No. She was but a supportive character for the main antagonist. Her importance doesn't come even close to the importance of Vivi in Alabasta. Go reread that arc.
And no, Yamato don't want to sail with Luffy because of his fruits or anything of that sort, she wants to go because she wants to sail the sea and because she thinks that as Ace's brother, Luffy would give her a place on his ship. Nothing more (at least for the moment)
No. She was but a supportive character for the main antagonist. Her importance doesn't come even close to the importance of Vivi in Alabasta. Go reread that arc.
😑 are you being serious right now?
She was known as The World Dangerous Woman and not to mention she was the ONLY ONE that can read the ancient writing and the world government put a bounty on her head at 8 years old if that doesn't show to be important I don't know what to tell you Vivi was important so was Robin too
She was known as The World Dangerous Woman and not to mention she was the ONLY ONE that can read the ancient writing and the world government put a bounty on her head at 8 years old if that doesn't show to be important I don't know what to tell you Vivi was important so was Robin too
In fact Yamato is missing the same exact things Carrot is missing:
The understanding of Luffy's importance and the reason why they MUST follow HIM and not someone else. The reason why they would be willing to put their life on the line for him.
I won't make you an Alabasta analysis here. Go read that arc again. If you can't see that Robin was a supportive character and Vivi a main arc character.. I can't help you.
In term of narration the two treatments were INCOMPARABLE.
The understanding of Luffy's importance and the reason why they MUST follow HIM and not someone else. The reason why they would be willing to put their life on the line for him.
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I won't make you an Alabasta analysis here. Go read that arc again. If you can't see that Robin was a supportive character and Vivi a main arc character.. I can't help you.
In term of narration the two treatments were INCOMPARABLE.
Okay, you have to understand something. Yamato is fascinated with Luffy because Luffy said the same words that a certain someone said in Odens journal. Now we know that certain someone is Gol D. Roger possible Joyboy as well. As Yamato said “I would never luff at your brother, Ace. He said the same thing a great person in odens journal” that is the reason Yamato decided to follow Luffy. That’s why he reacted as soon as Momo mention Joyboy he said “did Zunesha just say that?”
Yamato is fascinated and interested in everything that has to do with the void century and wants to know what happened. Carrot isn’t
Robin was extremely important in alabasta. Not for the alabasta but the over all story. She saved Luffy from dying after crocodile beat him the first time.
sure Vivi was more important for the arc but the overall story it’s robin. Without Robin the MC would have died. Now Yamato is important for the arc and the overall story. Larrot isn’t present in arc and the overall story wouldn’t change a bit without her.
without Yamato the overall story would change quite a bit.
Now let’s see how you spin this to make it fit that little world you’ve created in your head.
Yamato is fascinated and interested in everything that has to do with the void century and wants to know what happened. Carrot isn’t
Robin was extremely important in alabasta. Not for the alabasta but the over all story. She saved Luffy from dying after crocodile beat him the first time.
sure Vivi was more important for the arc but the overall story it’s robin. Without Robin the MC would have died. Now Yamato is important for the arc and the overall story. Larrot isn’t present in arc and the overall story wouldn’t change a bit without her.
without Yamato the overall story would change quite a bit.
Now let’s see how you spin this to make it fit that little world you’ve created in your head.
Yamato already knows how important Luffy is so don't go lump her in with your bunny girl cause Yamato just find out That Luffy is Joyboy who oden was waiting on for Wano also the D thing that she is interested in also the connection with the words luffy say to ace and sabo have the same words from Roger who was the previous king of pirates 😭😭 So Try Again your bunny girl needs something to be a character so don't you dare try to downplay Yamato who is a much better character than the rabbit 😒😂
Like I said before Robin was known as an important character give me something that carrot shows to be important mink? We can replace carrot but can't with robin oda official make that clear to us from the first appeared of Nico Robin
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Like I said before Robin was known as an important character give me something that carrot shows to be important mink? We can replace carrot but can't with robin oda official make that clear to us from the first appeared of Nico Robin
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Being fascinated is one thing, being convinced that Luffy is the man that will become the pirate King and help you fullfill your purpose and be you life long friend is another.
Yamato as yet to understand why she would follow Luffy with her life. Right now, she is FAR from that point, Carrot on the other hand, not so much.
No it's not.
1. Yamato didn't decided to follow Luffy, she is not following him, what she is following right now is her desire to free Wano.
2. The reason why she DECIDED that she had a place on the Sunny was because Luffy was Ace' brother. There is no other reason until now in the story. Don't invent stuff.
We don't know that. Don't invent stuff
No. She was a supporting ennemy character. Her importance only came to light during the very end of whole cake. Her status gave you the illusion of importance (and Oda was counting on that). But in the fact, what Robin did was very little until the very end of the arc.
That makes her a savior, not a foundamental character of the arc. By that logic I could say that carrot saved the strawhat at the end of whole cake and is therefore important in the arc. (and don't even TRY to debate that point, I won't reply to BS more than necessary) And it would not be fair. Carrot was not THAT important in the arc.
On the other hand, you couled argue that Brook was.
Only you finds way to spin your own argumentation to avoid the realization of being proven wrong.
Like I said, being fascinated is a thing and actually knowing why a character must follow another with their life is another. Completely different things.
No you can't replace Carrot. You would need to completely change the story to do that. Just like you would need to change the story to replace Robin.
Yamato as yet to understand why she would follow Luffy with her life. Right now, she is FAR from that point, Carrot on the other hand, not so much.
No it's not.
1. Yamato didn't decided to follow Luffy, she is not following him, what she is following right now is her desire to free Wano.
2. The reason why she DECIDED that she had a place on the Sunny was because Luffy was Ace' brother. There is no other reason until now in the story. Don't invent stuff.
We don't know that. Don't invent stuff
No. She was a supporting ennemy character. Her importance only came to light during the very end of whole cake. Her status gave you the illusion of importance (and Oda was counting on that). But in the fact, what Robin did was very little until the very end of the arc.
That makes her a savior, not a foundamental character of the arc. By that logic I could say that carrot saved the strawhat at the end of whole cake and is therefore important in the arc. (and don't even TRY to debate that point, I won't reply to BS more than necessary) And it would not be fair. Carrot was not THAT important in the arc.
On the other hand, you couled argue that Brook was.
Only you finds way to spin your own argumentation to avoid the realization of being proven wrong.
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Like I said, being fascinated is a thing and actually knowing why a character must follow another with their life is another. Completely different things.
No you can't replace Carrot. You would need to completely change the story to do that. Just like you would need to change the story to replace Robin.
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