General & Others Do you think the ZKK theory made some Zoro fans more toxic?
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When we tried to explain it to them
they didn't want to listen
no one was ready to give it a chance.
this why zoro fans started to be toxic
you fucking are open to any bullshit
Youtubers or theorists throw at you but not give zkk a chance ?!!
and you called them clowns dreamer zorotards etc just cuz they tried to understand what the writer try to tell us. !!
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I am really happy that most of the retard fandom stood against zkk for a long time.
Cuz soon you gonna eat ur sh** by ur hands.
they didn't want to listen
no one was ready to give it a chance.
this why zoro fans started to be toxic
you fucking are open to any bullshit
Youtubers or theorists throw at you but not give zkk a chance ?!!
and you called them clowns dreamer zorotards etc just cuz they tried to understand what the writer try to tell us. !!
....
I am really happy that most of the retard fandom stood against zkk for a long time.
Cuz soon you gonna eat ur sh** by ur hands.
No offense but based on your comment, you are acting like one of those toxic Zoro fans right now.
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monsterx and that zorisbadassgod or something dude are the 2 Zoro fans i put on ignore 
Sometimes i put Shishio on ignore too when he's in toxic mode
Sometimes i put Shishio on ignore too when he's in toxic mode
Then I got warning from mods for being throw insults before.
@DarkWitch was I am too toxic for you ?
It goes both ways
A lot of Zoro fans are fierce defenders of the theory and will eat you alive for disagreeing. The same can be said for people that refuse to even acknowledge the possibility of ZKK. I think the fandom has always been pretty toxic but there's never been something this big that everyone's taking sides on. Some of the biggest OP influencers are voicing their opinions on ZKK causing people to take sides and creating even more toxicity
Personally, I think it's pretty interesting and I can't wait to see the aftermath but that's just me
A lot of Zoro fans are fierce defenders of the theory and will eat you alive for disagreeing. The same can be said for people that refuse to even acknowledge the possibility of ZKK. I think the fandom has always been pretty toxic but there's never been something this big that everyone's taking sides on. Some of the biggest OP influencers are voicing their opinions on ZKK causing people to take sides and creating even more toxicity
Personally, I think it's pretty interesting and I can't wait to see the aftermath but that's just me
PM it when you get the chance.
There are some tolerable toxic Zoro fans and then you got those users.
I don't know, I don't ever remember you being toxic.
monsterx and that zorisbadassgod or something dude are the 2 Zoro fans i put on ignore
Sometimes i put Shishio on ignore too when he's in toxic mode
Sometimes i put Shishio on ignore too when he's in toxic mode
I don't know, I don't ever remember you being toxic.
Well when you see the same thing happen arc after arc after arc from the beginning of the series. You kind of know what to expect by the end of it, right? Oda's knack for keeping people alive. MC beating the bad guy time after time.
So when someone says Luffy beating Kaido is more likely than Zoro taking his head. There's a good reason for it.
It's not about taking the spotlight. It's more about being reasonable. Given what we have come to expect.
But no according to you it's about Luffy and Sanji fans not wanting Zoro to shine apparently.
As if Luffy fans have to worry about that kind of stuff.
So when someone says Luffy beating Kaido is more likely than Zoro taking his head. There's a good reason for it.
It's not about taking the spotlight. It's more about being reasonable. Given what we have come to expect.
But no according to you it's about Luffy and Sanji fans not wanting Zoro to shine apparently.
As if Luffy fans have to worry about that kind of stuff.
Well when you see the same thing happen arc after arc after arc from the beginning of the series. You kind of know what to expect by the end of it, right? Oda's knack for keeping people alive. MC beating the bad guy time after time.
So when someone says Luffy beating Kaido is more likely than Zoro taking his head. There's a good reason for it.
It's not about taking the spotlight. It's more about being reasonable. Given what we have come to expect.
But no according to you it's about Luffy and Sanji fans not wanting Zoro to shine apparently.
As if Luffy fans have to worry about that kind of stuff.
So when someone says Luffy beating Kaido is more likely than Zoro taking his head. There's a good reason for it.
It's not about taking the spotlight. It's more about being reasonable. Given what we have come to expect.
But no according to you it's about Luffy and Sanji fans not wanting Zoro to shine apparently.
As if Luffy fans have to worry about that kind of stuff.
It's also that ZKK does have striking evidence and build-up towards it. Denying that because someone "knows how Oda writes" or someone believes "Luffy always shines the brightest" is not really an argument against ZKK, because it barely does anything to dispute the actual evidence that's been proposed in favor of the theory.
An analogy:
If you were used to meeting someone at the same time every day, but one day, you saw in the news that the train they usually take to meet you is out of order that day, would you still be so confident that they're gonna show up on time, just because they've done so every day for a long time?
No. You'd realize that the train being out of order is likely a signal that they will either be late, or they will be unable to show up. You wouldn't sit there and be flabbergasted when they don't show up on time.
Besides, most people who believe in ZKK still think that Luffy will beat Kaido in a 1v1 and get the glory for that. Just because some fans can't think of a way for Oda to have Zoro kill Kaido after Luffy defeats him, and still give Luffy his due credit/shine, doesn't mean that Oda himself can't think of a way to do it.
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@Sentry22 To add on, I think this is the way to counter ZKK:
@ZenZu made this point a while ago if I remember correctly, but basically, you can question whether or not all the "evidence" for ZKK is actually referencing ZKK in the first place. How do you know, for certain, that everything that Oda built up in his head was not in preparation for Zoro slaying King's dragon in 1035? You don't.
However, I do find it unlikely that Oda would make such massive plans for a scene that was not witnessed by anyone, especially one that did not resolve other Zoro-related plotlines in Wano such as black blades or Shimotsuki lineage.
The issue with many ZKK bashers is that they speak in absolutes. Notice how I said that "I don't think" Oda will do XYZ. With a lot of ZKK bashers, it's always, "Oda would NEVER do this" or "This will NEVER happen." It's rarely, "I doubt Oda would do this" or "I don't think it's very likely that this will happen"
That is what pisses off ZKK fans the most...when people refuse to even entertain the notion no matter how many well-crafted threads and evidence they show. Instead, they get treated like schizos. It's fine to disagree, but the way that the disagreements usually play out are often a main contributor for the toxicity
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It's a theory like many others that have come before it. More likely to miss than to be accurate.
Luffy hasn't properly won the Kaido fight even at this point where Kaido has fought a dozen people or more and on top of that has defeated Luffy 4 times.
If Luffy were to knock Kaido out for a few seconds only for him to get back up again for Zoro to kill him. How would that look? Would that be a victory or just Luffy failing countless times?
As for the analogy I would still wait given that the train being out of order is a rare occurrence anyways.
Luffy hasn't properly won the Kaido fight even at this point where Kaido has fought a dozen people or more and on top of that has defeated Luffy 4 times.
If Luffy were to knock Kaido out for a few seconds only for him to get back up again for Zoro to kill him. How would that look? Would that be a victory or just Luffy failing countless times?
As for the analogy I would still wait given that the train being out of order is a rare occurrence anyways.
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Well when you see the same thing happen arc after arc after arc from the beginning of the series. You kind of know what to expect by the end of it, right? Oda's knack for keeping people alive. MC beating the bad guy time after time.
So when someone says Luffy beating Kaido is more likely than Zoro taking his head. There's a good reason for it.
It's not about taking the spotlight. It's more about being reasonable. Given what we have come to expect.
But no according to you it's about Luffy and Sanji fans not wanting Zoro to shine apparently.
As if Luffy fans have to worry about that kind of stuff.
So when someone says Luffy beating Kaido is more likely than Zoro taking his head. There's a good reason for it.
It's not about taking the spotlight. It's more about being reasonable. Given what we have come to expect.
But no according to you it's about Luffy and Sanji fans not wanting Zoro to shine apparently.
As if Luffy fans have to worry about that kind of stuff.
Luffys leaving a 4 year arc with his only w being holdem
It is a mental disorder trait now
When people start thinking every single panel or action or word proves their theory even when Zoro isn't mentioned there
It just shows desperation and delusions
It is tiring and stupid to even believe in such theory
Zoro fans have always been toxic , only a few are reasonable
ZkK is just another sign of their toxicity translating in a delusional theory
When people start thinking every single panel or action or word proves their theory even when Zoro isn't mentioned there
It just shows desperation and delusions
It is tiring and stupid to even believe in such theory
Zoro fans have always been toxic , only a few are reasonable
ZkK is just another sign of their toxicity translating in a delusional theory
Yea i dont deny that currently theres two-way toxicity lol thats why i'm trying to be friendly to all fandoms since i don't like this kind of atmosphere between the factions. Why the heck must we insult / clown each other by default, just due to difference regarding who is stronger between manga chars? That Cult mentality makes no sense for me.
Imo calling others a retard, crayon eater, clown etc is something people should use regarding serious real life problems like defending family's honor or physical or real life verbal assault/abuse or something, not worth fighting between online friends over.
I really think the members with those habit should focus their energy on something else. Banging their pretty gfs, the gym, watching movies and analyzing it, work at the office, sport or hobbies, writing a book or comics, making investments, selling street foods, calisthenics, repairing something at home, streaming, learning how to emergency treatment of accident at living place, etc. Basically anything other than insulting other people
On topic: No, i dont think so. Toxic people is always toxic except if they wanna change their attitude.
Imo calling others a retard, crayon eater, clown etc is something people should use regarding serious real life problems like defending family's honor or physical or real life verbal assault/abuse or something, not worth fighting between online friends over.
I really think the members with those habit should focus their energy on something else. Banging their pretty gfs, the gym, watching movies and analyzing it, work at the office, sport or hobbies, writing a book or comics, making investments, selling street foods, calisthenics, repairing something at home, streaming, learning how to emergency treatment of accident at living place, etc. Basically anything other than insulting other people
On topic: No, i dont think so. Toxic people is always toxic except if they wanna change their attitude.