[FNZ] Role Madness Game 03: One Piece Dressrosa

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Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
@AL sama I need to ask you something...

There are 16 players. What would be the most probable set up? 11 /4/1 ???

If that's true then there are four confirmed originals
 

Bogard

You can't win
Ok got a break, so have time to reply to this now
Anyway thank for revealing your claim.


I want an opinion from you guys on something very important.

We all Know pantheos played very safely despite knowing mafia game on first two days. There was no scum hunting, no information Sharing.... totally non townie behavior


Then beta took up his role. I will call him beta 2.0. he came up headcannon assumptions against me. He was totally inclined to push case on me. Well it's fine so far...

But after noctis casted fifth vote on tac, he immediately took 180° turn and casted vote on tac...well This is also fine... I mean we can say he wanted to ensure Lynch to help townie...


But then he went on to say this....



In both the above posts it's clear that final is trying to come out clean because he realized or he knew tac is scum. His game play was based on assumptions and was totally inconsistent(keep panther gameplay in mind)

but then this could also be fine as his biggest defense is his claim of pica....


But aren't we overlooking the fact that in this game @Flower got killed by janitor thus her identity was not revealed to us. But we do know that it's likely that janitor knew her identity and it's likely will use it for himself to portray himself as townie.

In short what if flower is pica?

If true then both final and sentinel could be scum
You're welcome, i think claiming is good since it helps to find potential townies

We know so far that

- Residents of dressrosa should be townies(original and executive)
- Anyone who wasn't resident came out to be mafia thus far(Rej was Cavendish, TAC was Law)

Finalbeta claimed to have seen both Playa and Sentinel targetted you, but we don't really know with Playa since he died. However, Sentinel is still alive and he confirmed he used a barrier on you. However Final used the word "visiting" which isn't necessarily viewed as the same thing by Denim

It's also questionable to me imo that there are so many town investigators in the game like i told you in previous phase
Let's look at it this way

- Finalbeta 1.0 was a tracker
- Finalbeta 2.0 seems to be a watcher
- Playa was an investigator(if innocent or guilty)
- All_Red could also investigate about a player's alignment

Don't you think it's far-fetched to believe there could be another investigator in a game of 16players(assuming it's your restricted role)?

With that said, i'm interested in your read. You don't need to claim, but just tell who you think is scum or mafia(or indie)

Assuming you're correct, you got 2nights to check out stuff
So if we count your role into this, it'd make 5 with presumably your own powerful role, which would be far-fetched in a game of 16 players

Another thing that seems strange is that both Finalbeta 1.0 and 2.0 ended up having a role related to tracker or watcher

Imo there was nothing wrong in assuming that someone gained the mera to unlock a new ability considering Denim literally confirmed it, but i find it strange however that Final votes you out right away after it's confirmed TAC was indeed scum, without thinking twice. Not that i don't think it's possible you're scum since as mentioned before it's definitely a strategy scums could do to try to get town cred, but i think it's likier you're town

So taking all these factors into consideration, i think something is wrong with Final's role, so will leave a vote on him before going to eat

Vote Lynch Finalbeta
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
Ok got a break, so have time to reply to this now
You're welcome, i think claiming is good since it helps to find potential townies

We know so far that

- Residents of dressrosa should be townies(original and executive)
- Anyone who wasn't resident came out to be mafia thus far(Rej was Cavendish, TAC was Law)

Finalbeta claimed to have seen both Playa and Sentinel targetted you, but we don't really know with Playa since he died. However, Sentinel is still alive and he confirmed he used a barrier on you. However Final used the word "visiting" which isn't necessarily viewed as the same thing by Denim

It's also questionable to me imo that there are so many town investigators in the game like i told you in previous phase


So if we count your role into this, it'd make 5 with presumably your own powerful role, which would be far-fetched in a game of 16 players

Another thing that seems strange is that both Finalbeta 1.0 and 2.0 ended up having a role related to tracker or watcher

Imo there was nothing wrong in assuming that someone gained the mera to unlock a new ability considering Denim literally confirmed it, but i find it strange however that Final votes you out right away after it's confirmed TAC was indeed scum, without thinking twice. Not that i don't think it's possible you're scum since as mentioned before it's definitely a strategy scums could do to try to get town cred, but i think it's likier you're town

So taking all these factors into consideration, i think something is wrong with Final's role, so will leave a vote on him before going to eat

Vote Lynch Finalbeta
I simply sticked with my line of thought.

Can't you guys see I always claimed I felt TAC and Reborn were both mafia since last dayphase?

Also Sentinel confirmed me so why are you still so doubtful.
 
I unvote Finalbeta

And I will explain why:

@Reborn @Finalbeta

Guys, at the moment, you are accusing each other because of certain points which do not mean much. Reborn was obviously focused on finding scums, he made his decision very clear against TAC on day 2. And @Finalbeta, you said you are going to accuse Reborn despite of him telling the truth about TAC? You want to lynch him although there are no arguments for Reborn being a scum? This is absolutely wrong, stop that nonsense.

And @Reborn, you clearly waste your focus on irrelevant things. Finalbeta accuses you BUT this doesn't necessarily mean he is a scum as well. And could you explain to me why you accuse Finalbeta being a scum? Except the fact that he argues against you, there are no other suspicious points.

Either way, @Finalbeta and @Reborn, just look at those posts:

Ok vote lynch TAC. We shall see who was right in the end anyway
TAC - 6 Reborn, Beta, Noctis, Kiwi, Neutral, AL
Although it was quite clear that TAC was going to be lynched, Bogard changed his vote on TAC when it was irrelevant anyway and at this point, he simply wanted that user wouldn't believe that he tried to defend TAC.
But at the end, his vote didn't count anymore.

Let's look at day 2:

Rej - 8 AL, Jew D Boy, All Red, Reborn, Finalbeta, Playa, Sentinel, Bogard
Beta - 2 TAC, Rej
TAC - 1 Neutral
Bogard simply went along with the majority since it was obvious that Rej was a scum at this point.

It is usual that scums mostly play defensive and rather go with the majority to prevent that people recognize their mistakes. It is a very safe play.

At this point, I'd rather vote for Bogard. Jew could fit on this description as well but I think we should take out Bogard at first.

Hence I can only advise you, @Finalbeta and @Reborn, to vote Bogard.

I vote Bogard
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
I unvote Finalbeta

And I will explain why:

@Reborn @Finalbeta

Guys, at the moment, you are accusing each other because of certain points which do not mean much. Reborn was obviously focused on finding scums, he made his decision very clear against TAC on day 2. And @Finalbeta, you said you are going to accuse Reborn despite of him telling the truth about TAC? You want to lynch him although there are no arguments for Reborn being a scum? This is absolutely wrong, stop that nonsense.

And @Reborn, you clearly waste your focus on irrelevant things. Finalbeta accuses you BUT this doesn't necessarily mean he is a scum as well. And could you explain to me why you accuse Finalbeta being a scum? Except the fact that he argues against you, there are no other suspicious points.

Either way, @Finalbeta and @Reborn, just look at those posts:




Although it was quite clear that TAC was going to be lynched, Bogard changed his vote on TAC when it was irrelevant anyway and at this point, he simply wanted that user wouldn't believe that he tried to defend TAC.
But at the end, his vote didn't count anymore.

Let's look at day 2:



Bogard simply went along with the majority since it was obvious that Rej was a scum at this point.

It is usual that scums mostly play defensive and rather go with the majority to prevent that people recognize their mistakes. It is a very safe play.

At this point, I'd rather vote for Bogard. Jew could fit on this description as well but I think we should take out Bogard at first.

Hence I can only advise you, @Finalbeta and @Reborn, to vote Bogard.

I vote Bogard
The problem with Reborn is that his claim walks on broken glass.

He claimed that a modifier role restricted his ability to claim and that he was sure of TAC being a scum but TAC is not an ability restrictor, he is a posting restrictor and Reborn could talk all the time.

I can't buy mafia having 2 restrictors. You see man??

Moreover I think Kiwi and Jew must claim because each Town group should be composed by 5 members and so far we know who the 5 Executive are and we got to know 4 Originals. 5 if we consider Flower one, though it is unknown.

So someone is a clear liar.

If my reasoning is correct I also think that mafia has no fake claims in this game and not even Flower's role because they never used it thus far (TAC/Rej).
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
3 to 4 mafias and 1 to 2 indie or third party

improve your mafia knowledge beta
Read that post again....
I unvote Finalbeta

And I will explain why:

@Reborn @Finalbeta

Guys, at the moment, you are accusing each other because of certain points which do not mean much. Reborn was obviously focused on finding scums, he made his decision very clear against TAC on day 2. And @Finalbeta, you said you are going to accuse Reborn despite of him telling the truth about TAC? You want to lynch him although there are no arguments for Reborn being a scum? This is absolutely wrong, stop that nonsense.

And @Reborn, you clearly waste your focus on irrelevant things. Finalbeta accuses you BUT this doesn't necessarily mean he is a scum as well. And could you explain to me why you accuse Finalbeta being a scum? Except the fact that he argues against you, there are no other suspicious points.

Either way, @Finalbeta and @Reborn, just look at those posts:




Although it was quite clear that TAC was going to be lynched, Bogard changed his vote on TAC when it was irrelevant anyway and at this point, he simply wanted that user wouldn't believe that he tried to defend TAC.
But at the end, his vote didn't count anymore.

Let's look at day 2:



Bogard simply went along with the majority since it was obvious that Rej was a scum at this point.

It is usual that scums mostly play defensive and rather go with the majority to prevent that people recognize their mistakes. It is a very safe play.

At this point, I'd rather vote for Bogard. Jew could fit on this description as well but I think we should take out Bogard at first.

Hence I can only advise you, @Finalbeta and @Reborn, to vote Bogard.

I vote Bogard
I am not focus on final as sure shot scum...

His gameplay has been scummy and or of he is townie then he is really playing like scummy helping mafia which literally creates obstacles in scum hunting like yesterday and like today the moment he came online..more so his reasoning is based on wild assumptions and not evidences...


But, unlike him I don't keep myself closed minded...even know I am considering all possibilities scenario and I am open to final being Townie and someone else being scum....
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
Alright!

I got confirmation from denim...


He says I can reveal what happened to me last night....

I got post restricted by a role modifier...


Tac is my confirm read..his gameplay isn't as Cool as zoro...and final is my Second sus.. if I get nk please read every interaction happened here...

Al and nw seem to be townie

Also check voting pattern

@Bogard and @AL sama you both sure want to go ahead with final....if yes then I am fine with Final
Here Reborn also claims that he had been post restricted during that night which doesn't even hold sense because he could still post in the game.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
Here Reborn also claims that he had been post restricted during that night which doesn't even hold sense because he could still post in the game.
This is where you are wrong...this is why I keep on saying you are full of yourself because you think you Know better just because you have more experience..... disregarding evidences right in front of you...


Here is the meaning of Post restrictions from wiki

You are viewing the MafiaScum.net Wiki. To play the game, visit the forum.

Post Restriction



A post restriction is a role modifier that restricts what the affected player can post. These range from the objectively quantifiable, such as only being able to post so many times per day, or not being allowed to say a key word; to the subjective, like requiring players to post with a silly accent or so forth.


I already said that my post Restrictions were that I have to say something positive about shs....
 

Kiwipom

Ghost Princess
I know who is mafia now, it’s Bogard. And I have to tell you guys that there is an indie here too. I just woke up, I’ll explain the rest in a bit but for now, everyone unvote Finalbeta. He isn’t scum

And you ask me who I am? Fufufufu

Waka-sama is here
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
This is where you are wrong...this is why I keep on saying you are full of yourself because you think you Know better just because you have more experience..... disregarding evidences right in front of you...


Here is the meaning of Post restrictions from wiki

You are viewing the MafiaScum.net Wiki. To play the game, visit the forum.

Post Restriction



A post restriction is a role modifier that restricts what the affected player can post. These range from the objectively quantifiable, such as only being able to post so many times per day, or not being allowed to say a key word; to the subjective, like requiring players to post with a silly accent or so forth.


I already said that my post Restrictions were that I have to say something positive about shs....
This is what TAC's ability says:

[Active - Gamma Knife] using your overpowered ability, target a player and destroy their organs so bad that they need to go to the hospital. The next day phase, that player will not be allowed to post. [2-shot]

This is pretty clear.

If he targetted you, you wouldn't have been able to post at all!
 
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