Character Discussion Luffy is going to be so cool with his new trio.

Or he didn't want to rile up the insecure Sanji fanboys by letting them know he's close to Sanji..

Maybe Zoro's going to the roof is also for the sake of Zoro fans who don't feel safe
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Agree.
Just reminder, despite Yamato being the 3rd or 4th strongest doesn't mean she's comparable to YC3 like Jack or Smoothie.
Luffy Zoro is Yonko level for sure, while Sanji and Yamato are both YC1+ and Jinbe can even be YC1-.
There is a big gap between yonko and YC1. Zoro will not be on the same level with Luffy or open a big gap with Sanji
 
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Maybe Zoro's going to the roof is also for the sake of Zoro fans who don't feel safe
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There is a big gap between yonko and YC1. Zoro will not be on the same level with Luffy or open a big gap with Sanji
Well then it's just our different categorization.
Top level for me is also span further wide, like Kaido Roger WB as obviously high Top Tier, or some Admirals and Big Mom in mid Top Tier, or old man Garp or Mihawk or Ray in low Top Tier.

Luffy is for sure in the high level, Zoro in mid, while Sanji and Yamato on the low end of Top Tier.
 
There is a big gap between yonko and YC1. Zoro will not be on the same level with Luffy or open a big gap with Sanji
It’s already established there’s a big gap between Zoro and Sanji it’s laughable at this point to even compare the two, especially when it was established in his intro arc that’s he’s supposed to follow in the foot steps of Luffy and Zoro.

It’s also foolish to think Luffy is going to leave Zoro in the dust when Oda established the connection between the two and being conquerors and both having “stupid” dreams.
 
It’s already established there’s a big gap between Zoro and Sanji it’s laughable at this point to even compare the two, especially when it was established in his intro arc that’s he’s supposed to follow in the foot steps of Luffy and Zoro.

It’s also foolish to think Luffy is going to leave Zoro in the dust when Oda established the connection between the two and being conquerors and both having “stupid” dreams.
I don't see a huge gap between Zoro and Sanji. Zoro has COC to beat Yc1, and Sanji can beat YC2 without COC
Luffy and Zoro are at different levels
 
If Yamato does join, Oda will treat her like an outlier like Ace. Marco and Jozu are still Newgate's "wings" even if Ace edges out Jozu or even Marco.
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Captain
  • Luffy
Heavy Hitters
  • Zoro (#2)
  • Sanji
  • Jimbei
"Vets"
  • Chopper
  • Franky
  • Brook
  • Robin
  • Nami * (gadget fighter only)
  • Usopp * (gadget fighter only)
Wildcard
  • Yamato?
 
Post the panels where WW gets "clean hits" on Jinbei because I don't see this in the manga. He took one attack to the arm that made him bleed and nothing else worked on him.

And by your logic Jinbei can never use a stronger move than demon brick since it has ultimate in the name (in some translations). You need to try reading more manga. Saying "ultimate" in the name of an attack doesn't mean shit.

Almost like people just disagree with you about a manga or something. People don't have to have an agenda to disagree with you buddy. And Jinbei>>Franky is not hot enough of a take to start calling bias on.
I never said he cant use stronger move. I said it is 1 of his 2 strongest moves shown. It is you using headcanon to say he has stronger moves which he hasnt shown.








So yeah, Jimbei was having some trouble, yet not enough to call it an extreme diff but it surely was a high diff.[/Spoiler][/Spoiler][/Spoiler][/Spoiler]
 
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I never said he cant use stronger move dumbass. I said it is 1 of his 2 strongest moves shown. It is you using headcanon to say he has stronger moves which he hasnt shown.








So yeah, Jimbei was having some trouble, yet not enough to call it an extreme diff but it surely was a high diff.[/Spoiler][/Spoiler][/Spoiler][/Spoiler]
Yeah, I'm not going to bother with internet arguments once the personal insults start. Have a good day.
 
Good luck not being able to refute the scans.
I didn't actually read the rest of your post after you called me a dumbass, but since you did post the panels I asked for I'll respond before I leave.


First panel is the one clean hit I already mentioned. Arm bleeding is not significant damage though.

2nd panel you skipped the part where it does no damage and WW's fingers break, but good try.

3rd panel, I asked for panels of clean hits and you give me Jinbei dodging. You can't make this shit up. Dodging is still avoiding damage. WW wasn't able to do shit to Jinbei.

4th panel All I see here is WW getting jobbed. He goes all out and Jinbei's defence breaks his fingers. Also there's no mention of a "powerup" here, that's just headcannon.

Now I'm going to stop responding. I made an exception for this because I'm the one who asked you to post this, but I don't make a habit of talking to people who directly insult me if I don't have to. See ya
 
I didn't actually read the rest of your post after you called me a dumbass, but since you did post the panels I asked for I'll respond before I leave.


First panel is the one clean hit I already mentioned. Arm bleeding is not significant damage though.

2nd panel you skipped the part where it does no damage and WW's fingers break, but good try.

3rd panel, I asked for panels of clean hits and you give me Jinbei dodging. You can't make this shit up. Dodging is still avoiding damage. WW wasn't able to do shit to Jinbei.

4th panel All I see here is WW getting jobbed. He goes all out and Jinbei's defence breaks his fingers. Also there's no mention of a "powerup" here, that's just headcannon.

Now I'm going to stop responding. I made an exception for this because I'm the one who asked you to post this, but I don't make a habit of talking to people who directly insult me if I don't have to. See ya
1.- Damn dude, the first panel proves that Jimbei cant tank WW attacks. So all the attacks that Jimbei took damaged him. Why do you ignore this? Jimbei even acknowledges this just as WW.
2.- The second panel I didnt skip nothing, I posted it under. And in this same scan, Jimbei even falls to his knees while taking all the finger pistols. How do you dare to ignore this?
3.- The third spoilers states and shows that Jimbei had to dodge WW attacks or endure them.
4.- And finally, just until the end where Jimbei gets pissed and there is black lighting around Jimbei, WW fingers are broken. It was not always, just until the end.

It was a high diff batlte since Jimbei was getting damaged, had to dodge, had to endure hits, was getting spammed and damaged and used 1 of his best attacks shown.

It wasnt an extreme diff since Jimbei didnt take fatal wounds or was taken to his endurance limit, yet had to use his full power to win and his full power to endure.
 
For now yamato >> Sanji and jimbei ; unless jimbei gets adv coc he is nowhere close to yamato lol

Yamato if she joins will be oden where who is jimbei once again?
Jimbei wont grow much since he already reached his prime, he has been the same for many years, so his growth is small.

Seems Jimbei gets downplayed a lot by Sanji fans in response to Zoro fans who start trolling with the Jimbei > Sanji takes

I think the gap between Sanji and Jimbei is bigger than the gap between Zoro and Sanji but not by that much...there's no way Jimbei is being low diffed by Sanji imo
He is if we take Sanji with his new PU.

Dude Marco can't damage a admiral to say it would be high diff. Marco is a extremely good at stalling because he heals. Nobody can easily put Marco down unless you are alot stronger than him and have a way to cancel his regen which only 1 character in the series so far can do. Marco the second he regen wears out is going down quickly to a admiral and the fight would be overall mid diff. Ben Beckman is ahead of Marco the guy is comparable to shanks which Marco isn't.

Sanji isn't much stronger than jinbe and no he wasn't around jinbe without his pu. Without his power Sanji was vet level with the likes of vergo and p1. But getting his exoskeleton and IJ gave him a massive boost past jinbe. Right now jinbe is a high diff fight for Sanji.
Marco can damage Admirals... but it wont be a lof of damage to call it extreme diff, reason it will be a high diff vs fools like Kizaru or Fujitora who are the weakest. And Marco can really be dameged by Haki, Garp hit on Marco was not even Gear 3.

Sanji was Yc3 tier without his PU, just a Vergo. P1 was weaker for sure but not far. IMO Jimbei at best could give a mid diff battle to Sanji with his PU.



Well it’s mostly because oda decided to pair jinbe with Franky and Robin. And yeah I think saying they get low diffed is incredibly fair.

Remember the gap between Sanji and Franky was over 4 times the power pre timeskip. Oda always has the monster trio much much stronger than the next strongest which is what happened here.
Where is it stated it was 4 times?


I will never understand these weird Ussop stans who think he will be as strong as Zoro and Sanji just because he was the 4th strongest member back when there were only 4 members total.
Lol.

Jimbei teamed up with Sanji in the Fishman Island match-ups.

Keep in mind Zoro, Sanji, and Jimbei's fights had the versus title box in the same chapter.



Usopp, Chopper, Franky, and Brook's versus title box was in the next chapter.




Jimbei stood at the forefront with Luffy, Zoro, and Sanji in this group shot.


He accompanied Luffy with Sanji to the rooftop.


As Zoro and Sanji stood side by side with Luffy, Jimbei had his back in this colorspread.


Jimbei was the SECOND most important Straw Hat in Whole Cake Island down to being in an almost similar dilemma to Sanji. If anything, Jimbei had pairings with Sanji.

Fighting a Tobi Roppo (because Jack was taken) =/= Robin and Franky portrayal

I can't fathom how match-ups matter to you when determining Jimbei's power level but suddenly don't when you want to whiteknight the contradictions of Chopper being in the weak trio (who got the stronger opponent over Franky in Enies Lobby).
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Let's not forget Burgess (who had the best portrayal among Blackbeard's initial members and is portrayed as one of his top men) blatantly mirrors Jimbei.
Yeah, Sanji and Jimbei are near the same level when Sanji didnt had his PU which increased his level several tiers.
 
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