Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1049 Spoilers Discussion

[Nekomamushi]

So we have a Whitebeard, young Kaido and a mention of Rocks in one chapter?!?!

 

[Shisui]

Can't wait for round 5
Awakened Luffy vs Awakened Kaido, lfg

 

[NikaInParis]

The year is 2035.
One Piece is long finished.
"ZKK any day now. I can almost taste it."

 

[Sentinel]

I don't really see why ZKK can't happen, especially since Zoro's role isn't quite clear rn. Even if Kaido is defeated and has to be killed later on, Zoro is currently the only swordsman with ACoC (and a possible next PU as well) who can do the job, especially against a very halfdead Kaido. I just don't see why BB or some other third party suddenly appears and kills Kaido, it would be just as random, if not even more.

The only issue is that it's hard imagining how a strawhat kills a villain - well, one of the big antagonists in fact - on panel by beheading him. But at the end, Oda can always bring up something to surprise us either way, not to mention that ZKK theory has some really good core elements.

As an alternative, not related to ZKK, what if Kaido gets basically "sealed" by Luffy punching him at the very depth of the country or later throwing him, with seacuffs, at the huge abyss which Law created via Puncture Wille? Would be quite ironic considering Big Mom fell there too. On top of that, Onigashima could even land there to close the abyss. Considering that it wasn't enough to knock him out or imprisoning him - it always failed - "sealing" him away would be a good alternative against the killing option.

 

[comrade]

That's what they want

Zoro gonna beat/kill the stronger version of kaido while Luffy fails to KO normal Kaido for good

These guys really don't understand what they're saying
Imagine thinking Luffy won't get to finish kaido at his best but it will be Zoro
It's like thinking Law will beat awakened Doffy while G4 fails to beat base doffy

Unless Luffy is legitimately claimed the victor, while Kaido after regaining consciousness, will try to take down the flower capital in the fashion "if I can't rule over it, I will take it down".

Luffy beats Kaido, Zoro kills him ultimately.

There is still the question what happens to Kaido otherwise. Will he just retreat from Wano and live a happy life? Will he be jailed?

 

[Albino 👑]

So we have a whitebeard. young Kaido and a mention of Rocks in one chapter?!?!

We need a young linlin flashback 🐐
The elbaf flashback was cool but linlin post rocks pirates would be so hype

 

[uyuu]

I hope he will be simping for some lady

I want to try getting close to a girl and once we become kink factory i wanna try simping for her, but i ended up making her intimidated since the start...any suggestions

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Unless Luffy is legitimately claimed the victor, while Kaido after regaining consciousness, will try to take down the flower capital in the fashion "if I can't rule over it, I will take it down".

Luffy beats Kaido, Zoro kills him ultimately.

There is still the question what happens to Kaido otherwise. Will he just retreat from Wano and live a happy life? Will he be jailed?

Probably satisfied he met joy boy
Becomes newest member of Luffys harem joining Katakuri and Crocodile

 

[Gladwing0]

More Kaido flashbacks about the rocks crew and his motivations >>> ZKK or the Luffy fight continuing

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

ZKK deniers shall explain what happens to Kaido after his defeat. Is he going to Impel Down? Is he going to be jailed in Udon? We all know this ain't happening. The narrative says it's only over when Kaido is dead.

No it doesn't
because kaido himself believes in Joyboy... and he himself believes that Joyboy will be the one to defeat him AKA Luffy
which means after his defeat, he will not stand in Luffy's way or his friends (including Wano)

 

[Kishido]

So Kaidou and his story isn't done. ZKK lives

 

[Sentinel]

Can't wait for round 5
Awakened Luffy vs Awakened Kaido, lfg

Let's hope Kaido shows awakening. Would be trash writing if he doesn't show it at all. I can excuse Big Mom's lack of awakening due to her being a side villain but Kaido is the arc antagonist whose role was highlighted ever since PH. In DR, we've already seen how awakened DF users look like, as well as WCI, basically being treated as foretastes for the big war/battle. I mean, Kaido has maxed out DF stats, Haki stats, even FS, many varieties in his Full Zoan and Hybrid but the same dude apparently cannot use awakening? I refuse to believe this one.

 

[Cregan]

Well Luffy was already dead before he became Nika

Zoro has something to do with Kaido since Kaido is partially responsible for breaking his 30 bones which led him to take that drug which led him to take the drug which put him in life support (And Enma draining his Haki too I think). Zoro also has given Kaido a scar that will never go away

ZKK adds to the character because post TS Oda has build a theme of "Nothing I can't cut" with Zoro and cutting the most durable character/surface/substance in half adds to that

Adding to that
ZKK can lay the ground work for Oda establishing real back ground for Zoro connecting him to Ryuma who is famous for dragon slaying legend. Revealing Ushimaru as his relative would also help that since Zoro will be avenging him.

There are other things too

Nothing you wrote doesn`t answer how will Zoro recover in time to kill Kaido.
Ryuma slay dragon, not Yonko with dragon devil fruit, it`s huge difference.
Big mom is partial responsible for 30 broken bones and I don`t see anyone ever made post about Zoro killing BM.
Zoro already prove that he can cut Kaido.

 

[ivaannom]

ZKK reminds me of when people said that Zoro was going to fight Doflamingo alongside Luffy when the birdcage started moving and they never shut up until the end. I think some things never change

 

[Iaarm]

Luffy vs Kaido so far has over 166 pages.

According to this reddit user who made a compilation of most of the major Wano fights.

https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/tfyqqw

This is crazy. And it is only till chapter 1043 smh.
Kaidos fight having nearly 4 times as much screentime a Big Mom is just pure disrespect. Oda is trippin

 

[BOCCHI]

Momo is fucking an 8 year old (aged 20 years) with no haki you crayon eating moron

Even with ryou you can only do shallow damage to kaido

No amount of the thematic nonsense Is in place for momo to even tickle kaido with a sword

True, but still ZKK ain’t happening lol

 

[Dark Admiral]

So what happens to Kaido if he doesnt die uh?

capture from WG (they're right at Wano's gate), Big Mom takes him and flees in her ship, he himself takes his few trusted underlings and flees from Wano.

 

[BOCCHI]

True.
Just like Sengoku use his during Marineford.

Sengoku having CoC feels like an after thought Oda threw in the VC to hype him up a little.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Nothing you wrote doesn`t answer how will Zoro recover in time to kill Kaido.

Well that is up to Oda to decide. No one asked me for an answer to how Luffy was gonna get up, I didn't tell Oda to create the whole Joy Boy fiasco.

Ryuma slay dragon, not Yonko with dragon devil fruit, it`s huge difference.

Yeah I never said it has to be exact same thing. Dragon is still a dragon right? Or will Wano not accept Zoro as sword God because Kaido isn't pure dragon but Yonko dragon??

Don't get the point here

Big mom is partial responsible for 30 broken bones and I don`t see anyone ever made post about Zoro killing BM.

Big Mom isn't a dragon is she?
I never said Big Mom has nothing to do with Zoro did I?
You said Zoro has nothing to do with Kaido hence I told you what he does

Zoro already prove that he can cut Kaido.

He hasn't proven he can cut Kaido in half can he?
Oden can also cut Kaido so that is just a repeated feat.

Zoro needs to do something unique.

Get my point?

 

[Shisui]

Luffy ate Yamantaka and proceed to overpower Susano Kaido