Has Kaido been defeated!?


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When actions follow characters words, aka Joyboy beating Kaido on the same fucking page, then yes what they say is true.

Zoro said it. Other samurai said it. And they failed. Luffy then took over. That's it. Get over it lol
The same actions that had Kaido losing 7 times before joyboy reincarnated? or was they also joyboys that defeated him before this wano defeat?

Zoro never had the power to slay a dragon nor AdCoC but he does now. no reason not to believe he won't be getting plot armour no mi like fluffy did
 
Listen it'll be completely idiotic if Kaido/BM are not awakened. Oda knows this. Kaido even gave a speech about awakening.

The most realistic answer is they already used it, Oda just never mentioned it.
 
if anybody is a Gary Stu in One Piece, it's Luffy lol

he gets every power without having to train most of the time

all his "failings" are hand waved by the author without consequences most of the series

the entire universe bends intself to have Luffy succeeded
He is, Luffy is my favorite character, but I fully acknowledge he's not that well written and doesn't really have much character development.

That's the difference between me and you, I can actually acknowledge Luffy isn't some great character even if he is my favorite.
 
WTF is wrong with you? It's a statement from Kaido himself about who can defeat him, the man has been harping about Joyboy and some prophecy for multiple chapters now. It's as factual as it can get.
Read the story buddy. pardon me for not taking Kaido's words at face value. wasn't he the same guy that said fluffy is NOT joyboy? was he right then or nah?

"He's a pirate that tasted defeat (to characters who are not joyboy's reincarnation) 7 times."
 
The same actions that had Kaido losing 7 times before joyboy reincarnated? or was they also joyboys that defeated him before this wano defeat?

Zoro never had the power to slay a dragon nor AdCoC but he does now. no reason not to believe he won't be getting plot armour no mi like fluffy did
You assume those defeats occurred after he became the WSC and ruler of Wano.

This chapter:

Past Kaido: King, I know who…
Joy boy is
King: who is it?
Kaido: the guy who can defeat me in the future!!
King: If so…then it’s unlikely that he will appear



But no, continue to think Zoro is relevant to the conversation
 
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