Has Kaido been defeated!?


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How do we deal with the anti-ZKK trolling the next weeks/months? Or do we take a vacation?
FYI I'm going to be pretty toxic I'm giving fair warning but the Anti Luffy, Sanji, Kid, Law and any character who's arguably a rival or above Zoro faction of the ZKK cult has had it coming

My first thread will be called the 'The Biggest L in One Piece to date the rise and fall of the incel ZKK fandom'

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define revive and recovery for me pls
cause it doesnt seem crocodile specified awakened zoans had a limited number of those did he?


1. the awakened zoans in impel down had the same form throughout
2. they came back multiple times i.e they didnt stay down for long
3. if thats the case with kaido and luffy, neither should be down for too long.
i don't disagree but obviously to me thats a point for zkk...if luffy and kaido will just continue to keep going because of awakened ability what will stop one or the other we would be stuck in a loop in wano until one dies obviously as well im not throwing out sea prism stone or another means to putting kaido down just zkk is my preferred method
 
Just be honest, we've thought the same with Who's Who, Sasaki, Black Maria, Jack... King and see how it turned out to be? If Kaido shows awakening, that's great. But I'm already moving on with Kaido's defeat.
well for me it is a deafeat anyway and he show so many abilities and insane haki powers so he has enough powers even Luffy's awakening was not the main reason for Kaido's defeat. Haki and Ryo was the more decisive factor and that according to Kaido and to Luffy. Kaido tanked every thing Luffy's awakening offered.
 
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He is, Luffy is my favorite character, but I fully acknowledge he's not that well written and doesn't really have much character development.

That's the difference between me and you, I can actually acknowledge Luffy isn't some great character even if he is my favorite.
Being a Gary Stu doesn't automatically make a character bad lol

Luffy is still a great character in my opinion

just like Zoro

but people going after Zoro like he is the only one, when Oda does this a lot (Law is another example)

i also like the part about Luffy and Zoro that are Gary Stus, after all is great seeing them get stronger and shit on enemies

it's just that Oda has trouble making the villains also feel relevant, because he keeps making the villains the joke
 
I would like to know why though. Even as I character j don't like him. No offense it's just that. If I were to have a person around with luffy similar character I would avoid him at all cost. To be honest I avoid majority of the people. But why do you like luffy so much. Cuz he is the mc? He has ridiculous plot armour.
Because he has qualities I like in people, the never give up attitude, the fierce protectiveness over his friends and just overall being jovial all the time. It's basically a trope most Shonen MCs follow but there is a reason it's used so widely.
 
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