General & Others So far Oda's SBS answer about YC bounties has been proven to be right

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#44
King, Marco and Katakuri are different from Beckman, Shiryu, Rayleigh, Zoro etc,.

Those trio are younger than their captains and were either adopted or in Kuri's case the natural child of the Yonkou.

Meanwhile the other group - Beckmann, Shiryu, Rayleigh, Zoro and even Killer - they are all older than their captains and are the Vice Captain/partner figures of their crews.

Regarding Yonkou crews, its obvious that Zoro, Beckmann, Shiryu are a level above Marco, King and Katakuri.
 
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#45
King, Marco and Katakuri are different from Beckman, Shiryu, Rayleigh, Zoro etc,.

Those trio are younger than their captains and were either adopted or in Kuri's case the natural child of the Yonkou.

Meanwhile the other group - Beckmann, Shiryu, Rayleigh, Zoro and even Killer - they are all older than their captains and the Vice Captain/partner figures of their crews.

Regarding Yonkou crews, its obvious that Zoro, Beckmann, Shiryu are a level above Marco, King and Katakuri.
No they are not vice captain confirmed by oda zorotard so sanji is the vice captain
 
#48
Hi everyone, since Marco's bounty reveal, there have been a lot of discussions about other YC's bounties, so I thought to bring back something that Oda REVEALED in SBS back in volume 91. I've already brought this SBS section into the BOUNTY discussions before, but back then people were very sceptical and had a very negative reaction to this, but now we have a lot more information about their bounties, so let's try it again.

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As you can see, Oda says that the bounties of the YCs directly depend on the bounty of their respective captains. The WG cannot determine their individual THREAT or STRENGTH level, so they give them their bounties based their captain's bounty.
And as of right now, it has been proven to be true, and I'm not saying that this is 100% true, cuz you know, Oda is the biggest layer in the world, but still, it has been proven to be correct as of right now. For example:
Whitbeard had the highest bounty amongst Emperors, so his right hand man has the highest bounty amongst commanders.

Now, let's make an experiment, I will show you the bounties of already revealed commanders in RELATION to their captains, and then we'll try to determine the bounties of the others based on the information that we have right now.

Whitbeard=Marco

Big Mom=Katakuri




@Queen
@Zoro
@Van
@playa4321
@Celestia
@Grumpy Zoro
@Ice devil slayer
@KiriNigiri
@Veljko2000
@rednose
@Winsmoke Sanji
@Monet
@Veku
@BigChungus2018
@Crooc
@Reborn
@BossYimz
@Robin swan
@gojo
@Fenaker
@PuckTheGreat
@RayanOO
@ShishioIsBack
@Orojackson Refugee
@Greenbeard
@Dragomir
@Sword God Ryuma
@Sentinel
@IceWitch
@Himura
@DarkWitch
@stormylife
@Mr. Anderson
@yunzabit heights
@Monster trio
@Vonal
@Don DaSlayer
@Xione
@Master OF Haki
@Topi Jerami
@Yukihime
@bennbeckman
@Thabeast
@SaintBellkin
@SinOfGreed
@Zenos7
@Lucas
@JioFreed
@pedxi
@Zowo
@Luslec
@style
@Luffy is the mc
@Guymieux
@Mikail
@KINGKONGGUN15
@RyumaZoro
@worst pirate
@ZenZu
@LuffyMazino
@Im_not_Osama_bin_laden
@HAJIKATA
@Jackteo
@Tamerani
@Marimo_420
@Garp the Fist
@Kejon
@Fukki
@Flower
@Sunita
@RZ.119
@Sade
@Skiddo
@KageyamaShoyo
@Den_Den_Mushi
@Elcadar
@Finalbeta
@Bullet
@Dark Hound
@Patryipe
@Light D Lamperouge
@Enma
@Owl Ki
@ZoroIsOverrated
@ShinmenTakezo
@Jack
@Admiral Lee Hung
@Bogard
@Starbound Beast D. Draig
@Shiroyru
@Camie
@ShadyOjiro
@Benn beck
@SethTrollins
@MarimoHeado
@Foxy Bunny
@Bittersteel
@comrade
@Cyrus the Cactus
@OmegaPsyche
@SHIHI
@Zoro D Goat
@critical mindset
@kurwa
@WillOfMyD
@Jo_Ndule
@Reddot4
@Exodia.
@nik87
@Sakura no Hiluluk
@Usopp Haoshoku Haki
@Gambit
@Monkey D Theories
@TheAncientCenturion
@Haoshoku
@Geo
@Yo Tan Wa
@Izaya X
@Gon’s Missing Arm
@Albino 👑
@MasterD
@SmokedOut
@HeroesNZ
@Cinera
@Murilo
@Dark Knight Sanji
@Afroking
@Rosella.Fiamingo
@Chaves
@Rivaille
@Nidai_Kitetsu
@MonsterZoro
@Gol D. Roger
@Soleus
@Aknolagon
@Emperor Nami
@Constantine
@Gensui Sazid
@K!NG HARA$H!MA
@Hanzo hattori
@Buggy D Clown
@silverfire
@yorosenpai
@Tenshi No Konan
@Guan Yu
@Artorias
@Kiwipom
@zorojurou
@MD Zolo
@Brix
@Chrono
@HA001
@Sadistic Senpai
@bblue
@MarineHQ62
@KenshiraSonata
@Erkan12
@Buusatan94
@Celestial D. Dragon
So wrong
King's canon bounty is 1 390 000 000
Highest known bounty for every Pirate who is not a Yonko



And that's when the World Government doesn't know that he is Kaido's right hand man AND a Lunarian survivor
They are going to pay 100 000 000 for just mere infos about a Lunarian, so imagine how King's bounty would skyrocket
 
#50
So why didnt Zoro and wano group get any increase at all when Luffy's bounty skyrocketed into 1.5 Billion :kriwhat:
They have no answer to this. They take Oda's info and fail to put it into Manga terms. The boost people receive for being under a strong captain is very low. And they're trying to argue that if they were their own independent captains their bounties would be lower... like what?
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Ods only said “crew members’ bounties increase with their captain”. He didn’t say “if the captain’s bounty is lower then so are their crew members”. The first being true does not guarantee the second.

There’s a very good chance that Queen has a higher bounty than Jozu even though WB has a higher bounty than Kaido. (And I still think King is likely to have a higher bounty than Marco, but we will have to see on that).

If Beckman is significantly more dangerous/powerful than other top subordinates then his bounty will probably reflect that. There’s a good chance that Luffy’s subordinates are going to come out of Wano with disproportionately large bounties compared to his because Luffy has disproportionately powerful subordinates.

Luffy is weaker than Kaido but Zoro, Sanji, and Jinbe are all seemingly stronger than King, Queen, and Jack respectively. And it won’t shock me if Zoro, Sanji, and hopefully Jinbe all have higher bounties than them EoW. But it would surprise me if Luffy’s is higher than Kaido’s.

Sanji should get a higher bounty than Queen for defeating him. A SH almost never gets a bounty lower than whoever they just defeated at the end of a major arc unless the WG was unaware of it. Drake and CP0 are here to see Sanji v Queen so it’s very unlikely that it won’t be reported. And if Sanji goes over Queen, then Zoro should go over Marco and King since I believe he’s going to get a bigger bounty increase than Sanji this arc and reset the proper SH bounty hierarchy.
Oda always goes out of his way to point out when a bounty is related to measuring somebody's strength strength and when it's not he never connects the two. Consider that WB pirates were very dormant during the Great Pirate Era after Shiki & Roger had left the seas, in contrast to the likes of BM & Kaido who raided Islands and even destroyed them. Hence none of the bounties for WB pirate commanders have ever been connected to strength. Even from Kaido's crew, Queen & Jack's bounties were connected to their strength but not King's.
 
#52
They have no answer to this. They take Oda's info and fail to put it into Manga terms. The boost people receive for being under a strong captain is very low. And they're trying to argue that if they were their own independent captains their bounties would be lower... like what?
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Oda always goes out of his way to point out when a bounty is related to measuring somebody's strength strength and when it's not he never connects the two. Consider that WB pirates were very dormant during the Great Pirate Era after Shiki & Roger had left the seas, in contrast to the likes of BM & Kaido who raided Islands and even destroyed them. Hence none of the bounties for WB pirate commanders have ever been connected to strength. Even from Kaido's crew, Queen & Jack's bounties were connected to their strength but not King's.
Calamities = more about being dangerous (creatinh chaos, torturing others) than being skilled/ strong
SCs = more about their skills and strengths than being cruel pirates
WBP trio = more about being associated with WB and also fighting wars
RHP trio = earned their own fame...more about their skills/ strengths.

Compare Cracker with Jack hype
Cracker isn't hyped as a maniac when mentioning his bounty, its all about his skills.
Same with Katakuri being hyped more for skills via bounty while King and Queen are hyped for being calamities to society.

In fact BM commanders don't go around destroying nations, they aren't creating mass murder weapons too.
Even Smoothie who juices others wasn't hyped to be insane like calamities.

Clearly Calamities are worth 1B max power wise! Lowest bounty should be 700 M :

For me Commanders real bounties :
1.2-1.5 B : Benn ?
1B : Katakuri 1.057 B, Marco 1.074 B or 1.174 B.
900Ms : King 939 M, Queen 932 M
800 Ms: Cracker 800 M
700Ms :Smoothie 793.2 M, Jack 770 M

Jack and Pero are relative so Jack can't be worth above 800M or 850 M!
Katakuri matched the luffy who got 1.5 B, he has top tier skills and stats and was twice above <500M Luffy> in power and fame as stated & shown when they fought. So yeah Katakuri is worth his bounty 1B+
Queen & King lost easily once Wings powered up... plus they lack awakening or adhaki ...even just amazing haki.
King being lunarian is his whole hype which makes him powerful while Queen is a mad scientist. They don't deserve more than 1.1B if it is power wise , they do deserve 900M-1B overall tho for threat + power.
Marco is pathetic but he still fought many wars and also led WBP so he deserves inbetween 950M-1.1B bounty
Cracker bounty isn't even correctly done coz they don't know his real face + he deserves more than Smoothie who been useless ao Smoothie should have lower.
 
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#53
Calamities = more about being dangerous (creatinh chaos, torturing others) .
Queen & Jack had bounties used to hype up their strength, and then King with an overarching generalization of "1 billion+ bounty" had bounty used to hype up his strength. Contrast to Katakuri who was "1 billion bounty man" used to hype up his strength. Where as Marco's bounty is never brought up nor is bounty ever used to gauge his power.

On BM's crew. Cracker & Katakuri had their bounties used to hype up their strength. Smoothie on the other hand did not have any bounty related hype for battle prowess.


The Marines only increase bounty of underlings during a hiatus of where the crew has disappeared or in situations where they aren't sure about the details fully but know the member participated then the captain's bounty comes in to elevate the crew's bounty. However, as primarily shown in the manga throughout the series. Whether it's pre-TS with Luffy's bounty increase having no effect on the crew's or whether it's post-TS where Luffy 1 billion bounty increase had 0 effect on the crew's bounties... Marines assigning bounties due to their captains are very rare.
 
#54
Bounties,Pirates and so on are all trash in OP they are not worth a penny downgraded with this arc

Marines are important the rest is shit
 
#55
So wrong
King's canon bounty is 1 390 000 000
Highest known bounty for every Pirate who is not a Yonko



And that's when the World Government doesn't know that he is Kaido's right hand man AND a Lunarian survivor
They are going to pay 100 000 000 for just mere infos about a Lunarian, so imagine how King's bounty would skyrocket
Kid and law got 3b and they aren't yonkos u bozo :suresure:, wg know about king being a lunarian because they expiremented on him , so his actual bounty should be 1.29b
 
#60
this thread was made on the assumption that Oda doesn't lie all the time in the SBS sectione, but he proved me (us) wrong. So fill free to theorize.
Ben is the only person known as the vice-captain...And also he is compared to his captain...Definitely weaker than Shanks, but I can't underestimate him
 
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