General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet

[Peenix]

Characters like Chopper can have gags with OTHER character of the crew, having Carrot here is not a necessity.

Except half the crew was missing. And the characters he usually has gags with (Usopp, Robin, and to a lesser extent Franky) weren't there. So hey, why not include a stowaway on the Sunny so he can have someone fun to bounce off of?

The gags on the beginning off whole cake are with Luffy, not Carrot.

Carrot had plenty of gags at the beginning of wholecake. You might wanna go reread

There is NO NEED for a place holder, it doesn't make sence on a narrative basis. A character must serve a strong purpose or it has no reason to be here. Carrot is an anomaly on that front.

Characters don't need to serve a strong purpose. It makes perfect sense to include a character just cause you wanna have some gags. We didn't NEED to have Bartolomeo for instance, but he was hilarious so no one's complaining

 

[Animangaboy]

bad it was following a subversion dialogue. You still don't understand what it is ? Ahhh.. too bad..

That wasn't any subversion dialogue 😭😭 that's is something is about to happen in the next couple of chapters 😭😭 like Yamato said “she will go out to sea with Luffy but only I drive you out of Wano Kaido ” and now what's funny Kaido see Yamato without the cuff off and asking her if she was about to leave Wano and here you tell us she is staying 😭😂

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From everything we have seen from their relationship, if you can't figure that out, I guess there is no helping you.

There is nothing about their relationship hinting that Momo NEEDS Yamato to be shogun 😭 like there is a reason for The scabbards to guide him just like they did with Oden not Yamato 😭😭

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Yamato who was stuck on that little island most probably don't care about your maps. She was stuck on a skull forced to watch her father be a bully. So yeah.. Wano would be freedom to her

The girl literally said that she wants to go out to seas not go to Wano but to the SEAS to have an adventures 😭😭😭

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agree, that why I think Yamato will be the only retainer of Momo and the 9 red scabbard will become Daymo

Yamato WiLL not be anything to Momo other than a Friend 😭😭 You really think she will have more important than the people who were serving momo at a young age. 😂

 

[Logiko]

Idk see the difference between what luffy is doing with momo and Yamato but hey I guess I am not reading the story

Luffy / Momo = brother relationship
Momo / Yamato = Parent relationship at least symbolically

top lying the Minks were being hunted down 😭😭😭😭 that's crap and you know it

Are you saying that the mink are not hunted down ?

Except half the crew was missing.

And it doesn't matter.

So hey, why not include a stowaway on the Sunny so he can have someone fun to bounce off of?

Narratively, it doesn't justify all the craetive building and treatment, it's not worth spending hours on a cahracter. Pplus like I said, Oda can have that fun already with his main characters with less dificulty.. so AGAIN, it doesn't make sence. THerte is litterally NO reason to introduced a completely new character, build an entire mythos around it SINCE the beginning of ZOU just to have a "fun" character. No sence at all. There is another reason behind it.

Carrot had plenty of gags at the beginning of wholecake. You might wanna go reread

Yes but I'm talking about Chopper here, not Carrot, so read correctly please.

Characters don't need to serve a strong purpose

It makes perfect sense to include a character just cause you wanna have some gags

When they are just in the background yes (Gombe/chimney). When they are crafted like Carrot, with multiple layers of treatment, mythos and symbolism, they NEED to serves a strong purpose or the time spent on them is not worth it. Simple narrative and economic principle for an author. carrot makes ZERO sence on that principle.... unless she need to serv a bigger purpose and become a strawhat.

That wasn't any subversion dialogue

It was. Keep denying and you will be the one surprised at the end :)

she will go out to sea with Luffy but only I drive you out of Wano Kaido

unlikely

Yamato without the cuff off and asking her if she was about to leave Wano and here you tell us she is staying

Yup, she is staying.

 

[JoSeungHun7335]

Yamato who was stuck on that little island most probably don't care about your maps. She was stuck on a skull forced to watch her father be a bully. So yeah.. Wano would be freedom to her.

It’s not my map, it’s the map which is shown in the manga and Onigashima is included in Wano, which means it’s official. Just because you’re blind + dumb don’t make others go as low to your level. You better go back to bed and wank on your underaged rabbit which makes you at least look a lot smarter.

 

[Animangaboy]

Luffy / Momo = brother relationship
Momo / Yamato = Parent relationship at least symbolically

Please give me a chapter where it shows a parent relationship 🤔 not to mention both Yamato and Momo are 28 years old(yeah he's 8 years old in mind) but no

 

[Logiko]

It’s not my map, it’s the map which is shown in the manga and Onigashima is included in Wano, which means it’s official. Just because you’re blind + dumb don’t make others go as low to your level. You better go back to bed and wank on your underaged rabbit which makes you at least look a lot smarter.

"we are not toxic"

 

[Animangaboy]

you saying that the mink are not hunted down

They weren't you just make that up 😭😭

 

[Logiko]

Please give me a chapter where it shows a parent relationship 🤔 not to mention both Yamato and Momo are 28 years old(yeah he's 8 years old in mind) but no

All the chapter with Yamato and Momo

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They weren't you just make that up 😭😭

So you are still denying that the minks are hunted down by slave owners ?

 

[Animangaboy]

was. Keep denying and you will be the one surprised at the end :)

Tbh you're the one who is blind by the facts calling it subversion dialogue

 

[JoSeungHun7335]

"we are not toxic"

 

[Animangaboy]

unlikely

Look what happens in the last chapter kaido is defeated 😭🙈 so what's next for her 👀

 

[Peenix]

And it doesn't matter.

For an """""""analyst""""""""" like yourself that's a very anti-intellectual response

Narratively, it doesn't justify all the craetive building and treatment, it's not worth spending hours on a cahracter. Pplus like I said, Oda can have that fun already with his main characters with less dificulty.. so AGAIN, it doesn't make sence. THerte is litterally NO reason to introduced a completely new character, build an entire mythos around it SINCE the beginning of ZOU just to have a "fun" character. No sence at all. There is another reason behind it.

When they are just in the background yes (Gombe/chimney). When they are crafted like Carrot, with multiple layers of treatment, mythos and symbolism, they NEED to serves a strong purpose or the time spent on them is not worth it. Simple narrative and economic principle for an author. carrot makes ZERO sence on that principle.... unless she need to serv a bigger purpose and become a strawhat.

He spent hours on Bartolomeo and Cavendish and they didn't join the crew. You talk about Carrot's "mythos" yet she had less of that than either of them did. They got whole backstories, unique powers, and a ton of gags. But they didn't need to join the crew to justify the time spent on them. They just had to be fun characters, which they were.
Carrot doesn't need a 'strong' reason to justify the time spent on her. She just needed to be a fun character, which she was. You're totally overcomplicating things

Yes but I'm talking about Chopper here, not Carrot, so read correctly please.

1. You said Luffy, not Chopper
2. Chopper's gags were with Carrot. They were her gags too

 

[Logiko]

Tbh you're the one who is blind by the facts calling it subversion dialogue

Lmao

 

[Animangaboy]

Yup, she is staying

Really in which panel 👀? I never know it was like the same thing with the sanji and luffy WCI without Yamato momo can't be the Shogun of Wano 😰

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All the chapter with Yamato and Momo

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So you are still denying that the minks are hunted down by slave owners ?

All of the Yamato and momo panel were her telling him to make the flames clouds and were watching the fight between kaido and Luffy, and were discovered that Luffy was the man that Both Oden and Yamato were waiting for 😬
And yes the minks weren't being hunted by slave owners

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Lmao

Yeah calling it that because that one panel has you carrot fans surprised that you have to go research to help y'all to denied it 😪

 

[Logiko]

He spent hours on Bartolomeo and Cavendish and they didn't join the crew

They just had to be fun characters, which they were.

Bad take, Bartho and Cavendish are not background character, they served a bigger purpose: being captains of the strawhat grandfleet, and bonded to come back later.

You talk about Carrot's "mythos" yet she had less of that than either of them did

Wrong. When those character are indeed important for the story, their mythos is not that deep and their characterization rather flat.

Carrot on the other hand has a subtle characterization, multiple type of interactions, a lot of symbolims and a transformation. The treatment of carrot is on a completely other level.

Carrot doesn't need a 'strong' reason to justify the time spent on her.

Yes she do, but I guess you need to be an author to understand that.

1. You said Luffy, not Chopper

I talked about Chopper and Luffy.

2. Chopper's gags were with Carrot. They were her gags too

Yup but I talked about Chopper and Luffy. Read again.

Really in which panel 👀? I never know it was like the same thing with the sanji and luffy WCI without Yamato momo can't be the Shogun of Wano 😰

The "I figured you would take me on your ship" is a subversion dialogue which indicate that Yamato won't join. This is the panel you are looking for. ;)

And yes the minks weren't being hunted by slave owners

I guess you need to reread Saboady then, you missed a thing mate.

Yeah calling it that because that one panel has you carrot fans surprised that you have to go research to help y'all to denied it

No need to make researchs. That panel is a subversion dialogue. It's very simple. Only blind Yamato stan don't understand this ;)

 

[Animangaboy]

The "I figured you would take me on your ship" is a subversion dialogue that indicates that Yamato won't join. This is the panel you are looking for

😭😭😭 But did Luffy turn her down thou 👀? Also didn't robin do the same thing 👀, but what did Yamato continue to say to her father that she will leave with luffy (Not to mention Oda is the One making Yamato do this too 😭)

 

[JoSeungHun7335]

Carrot bonding with the crew is a subversion dialogue. Only blind + dumb Carrot stan can’t see it because too busy wanking on the underaged bunny filling their pedo + furry fetish

 

[Animangaboy]

guess you need to reread Saboady then, you missed a thing mate.

We were told how much for minks, not they being hunting like how the mermaid was 😭😭😭

 

[Logiko]

But did Luffy turn her down thou

Look at his reaction

Also didn't robin do the same thing

Wrong. Robin asked Luffy. Yamato didn't ask. She stated. like it was a done deal.

Yamato continue to say to her father that she will leave with luffy

Because she is still thinking on the same lens, thinking that's it's a done deal.

Not to mention Oda is the One making Yamato do this too

Yeah, obviously. That's why it's a subversion.

Carrot bonding with the crew is a subversion dialogue.

Nop

We were told how much for minks, not they being hunting like how the mermaid was

Meaning, they are hunted down regardless..

dumb Carrot stan can’t see it because too busy wanking on the underaged bunny filling their pedo + furry fetish

Can you stop sexualizing Carrot please? You are being very creepy.

 

[Animangaboy]

No need to make research. That panel is a subversion dialogue. It's very simple. Only blind Yamato stan don't understand this ;)

Dude please you were researching it 😭😭 also Yamato isn't going to stay in wano as she says multiple times she wants to leave Wano 😭 but I guess that was also a subversion dialogue as well 😰