Who will be the next Strawhat


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Desire = Wanting to go out to see
Goal = Leave Free like Oden

Desire =/= goal

Goal = Set
Desire = Can change
She has that same dream, goal, and desire at 8 years old if you think she is about to change it you are delusional 😭😭
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We will see who is right in a few chapters ;)
I think we all know who is right already but you won't admit it 😭😪
 
If you think a war can't change a personn's perspective then it's you who are delusionnal
Dude she literally said that she was waiting on the day when someone will take kaido and will leave wano did you read the story? Also if her being abused does not stop her from wanting to be Oden and want to leave wano you think a little war that she has been waiting for going to change her 😭😭😭 Kaido literally said that Yamato tries to escape from the island in chapter 1026
 
What I think carrot4nakama referring is this

The problem that is Carrot was not a liberator alongside the sun pirates like jimbei was. Nor did she face any form discrimination or force into slavery. She was never outcast herself as a character.

what about ogres carrot4nakama., Thery were left out in oden flashback, there were most likely hunted and big mom territory does not seem have them . We do not know of much them. According Kaido when attacking Yamato he doesn't believe they should be friends with humans. I wonder why that is hmm.
Using C4N's logic, humans are also "hunted down"...
 
And i'm not about becoming a main character, I'm mentionning the necessity to have a strong purpose. Strong purpose =/= being a main character.
And in a series as unashamedly goofy and silly as One Piece, comedy is a strong enough purpose in itself

No. In her design, in her characterization, in her interaction and her tretment, Carrot has a stronger relevance in the story that them. There is a reason that Carrot made it to the top 8 and it's not because she is a furry.
That’s just you projecting onto her. Every point you could make for Carrot could just as easily be applied to dozens of other characters.

That's called bad writing. Everything must have a purpose in a story.
Making things more interesting is a perfectly valid purpose. Adding comedy is a perfectly valid purpose. A character’s purpose doesn’t need to be deep. That’s just part of writing a story. Even in legendary works of literature like Crime and Punishment, you have characters like Alyona who were only there to be an asshole, get killed, and then cause the plot to get rolling without any kind of meaningful development.

All Carrot had to do to justify her existence was to be entertaining, which she was. And she also showed off Sulong, so there’s even more justification for her treatment. She doesn’t really need anything more

Still.. every member has a purpose in the story.
Hawkins, Apoo, and X Drake didn’t (they could still be salvaged but it’s looking unlikely).
Oda’s done an impressive job with them overall considering he came up with them on the fly, but you could easily cut out a number of them without losing much

Yup, because I was talking about something else
Except you responded to me talking about Carrot having gags with Chopper :kriwhat:
 
Desire = Wanting to go out to see
Goal = Leave Free like Oden

Desire =/= goal

Goal = Set
Desire = Can change
You asked which panel Yamato said she wants to leave Wano. Set sail to sea = leaving. I know you’re illiterate and still none of your bullshit matters
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Just stop being creepy or I will report you again.
 
In fact at 8 she wanted to take the sea BEFORE taking down Kaido.
And? What's the point now so why couldn't she leave after escaping for the cave?
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Her entire life she thought she was alone. But now, Momo is alive and his becoming the new Shogun and listen to her guidance to have the courage to do wonderfull things. That is something that has the power to change ones mind
What 😭😭 she literally still says that she going to leave Wano after meeting Momo 😭😂
 
😭😭😭 But did Luffy turn her down thou 👀? Also didn't robin do the same thing 👀, but what did Yamato continue to say to her father that she will leave with luffy (Not to mention Oda is the One making Yamato do this too 😭)
To be fair you really can’t equate Yamato to Robin. Robin joining was a legitimate surprise which definitely isn’t the case with Yamato assuming she does join
 
And in a series as unashamedly goofy and silly as One Piece, comedy is a strong enough purpose in itself
Yeah no. Plus Carrot is not even the most goofy character there is.


That’s just you projecting onto her. Every point you could make for Carrot could just as easily be applied to dozens of other characters.
Yes, strong characters. Main arc character and main characters.


Making things more interesting is a perfectly valid purpose.
"make thing more interesting" means nothing without a purpose in the story.


A character’s purpose doesn’t need to be deep
Not when it's a background character like Chimney or Gombey, when the characterization of a character is stronger than random background character, the purpose must follow the line.



Even in legendary works of literature like Crime and Punishment, you have characters like Alyona who were only there to be an asshole, get killed, and then cause the plot to get rolling without any kind of meaningful development.
The difference is, Oda has a very specific pattern with his character. You can almost put them in a box, that's how maniac he is with their role. By creating Carrot Oda pushed himself out of the box, out of his confort zone, and that NEEDS an explanation better than "it's just to had more goofyness", carrot is more than that. And if you don't notice it reread her story and reread it again just to be sure, because you are missing something.

All Carrot had to do to justify her existence was to be entertaining, which she was. And she also showed off Sulong, so there’s even more justification for her treatment. She doesn’t really need any
Yes she does, her whole relationship with Pedro is enough to ask for a purpose for Carrot. Again.. because you are an author but can't understand that: There was NO NEED to create Carrot to show the Sulong.

Plus : The Sulong was not a simple show for the transformation of the mink, it was a full on characterization of Carrot, a full representation of what she can do . HER and noone but HER.

Hawkins, Apoo, and X Drake didn’t (they could still be salvaged but it’s looking unlikely).
Yes they did. reread Wano again. They are not as important as other like Kid or Law but they have a purpose in the themes of the story and in it's development.


Except you responded to me talking about Carrot having gags with Chopper
To show you that Chopper had most of his Gag in the beginning of the arc with Luffy, not with Carrot. So the presence of Carrot was not necessary like you said to create Gags with Chopper.

You asked which panel Yamato said she wants to leave Wano. Set sail to sea = leaving. I know you’re illiterate and still none of your bullshit matters
Where does it mention Wano here ? She wants to leave Onigashima, not Wano. And leaving out to sea does not mean she wants to flee off Wano.


And? What's the point now so why couldn't she leave after escaping for the cave?
Because there is reason to believe, that Momo changed her mind.


she literally still says that she going to leave Wano after meeting Momo
Not anymore.


This dude will say anything to try to justify himself and his views, He is blinded by anything else, this is what we call Tunnel Vision.
This forum calling out my tunnel vision but unable to see a simple subversion dialogue.... :gokulaugh:
 
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