Questions & Mysteries Did Zoro defeated Kuma in Thriller bark
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Kuma was just testing the Strawhats loyalty, he had no intentions of killing or capturing Luffy. But the crew passed said test, so really it was a victory for the entire crew. But in no way did Zoro defeat Kuma, it's not like he said "if you survive this I won't kill Luffy", Kuma had no idea Zoro even survived until he saw him again in Sabaody, even then Zoro admits it was only due to Kumas mercy that he is still alive. The crew passed Kumas test, but in no way did they defeat him.
Are you serious?
Until the moment where Zoro showed his willpower to protect everyone, Kuma was an enemy. In fact Kuma was about to catch Luffy until Zoro managed to hurt him. And it's not that it was easy with him either, because he fought against Zoro, he launched an ultra-powerful attack that knocked everyone out, he put a test on Zoro to fulfill his deal.
Precisely, if Kuma had been an ally at that time, he would have acted in a similar way to Sabaody, saving their ass and not putting them in more trouble.
Luffy will be the son of Dragon, but had it not been for Zoro demonstrating his willpower, which in turn serves to demonstrate Luffy's potential, Kuma would have captured him without hesitation.
And why did he go to capture them if they are friends? Why did he put all of Luffy's nakams to the brink of death? Why did he make Zoro take all of Luffy's pain if they're friends?
What a shitty friend, with friends like that, you don't need enemies.
Until the moment where Zoro showed his willpower to protect everyone, Kuma was an enemy. In fact Kuma was about to catch Luffy until Zoro managed to hurt him. And it's not that it was easy with him either, because he fought against Zoro, he launched an ultra-powerful attack that knocked everyone out, he put a test on Zoro to fulfill his deal.
Precisely, if Kuma had been an ally at that time, he would have acted in a similar way to Sabaody, saving their ass and not putting them in more trouble.
Luffy will be the son of Dragon, but had it not been for Zoro demonstrating his willpower, which in turn serves to demonstrate Luffy's potential, Kuma would have captured him without hesitation.
And why did he go to capture them if they are friends? Why did he put all of Luffy's nakams to the brink of death? Why did he make Zoro take all of Luffy's pain if they're friends?
What a shitty friend, with friends like that, you don't need enemies.
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C'est l'hôpital qui se fout de la charité
La prostituée qui se fout du trottoir
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You think Oda will broke all the tension he built around Kuma so easily ?
To act like he's obeying to the WG
To test Zoro's loyalty he even said Luffy found great Nakama
C'est l'hôpital qui se fout de la charité
La prostituée qui se fout du trottoir
Headcannon and more headcannons
You think Oda will broke all the tension he built around Kuma so easily ?
To act like he's obeying to the WG
To test Zoro's loyalty he even said Luffy found great Nakama
I see some having a hard time coping with reality. Regardless of how much you hate to acknowledge it Zoro won. Kuma mission was to capture Luffy he failed. Nothing you say will change that.
Anybody who disagree with it is claiming that if they are given a mission to retrieve something and they fail to retrieve it then they will consider that a win.
Anybody who disagree with it is claiming that if they are given a mission to retrieve something and they fail to retrieve it then they will consider that a win.
well it depends on what you consider a defeat is...
if defeat means zoro beat kuma's ass then clearly no lol.
In general, in a battle manga, defeat = beat someone's ass but you can still defeat someone in other ways.
here kuma's goal was to capture luffy and zoro's goal was to save luffy. Therefore Zoro, by saving Luffy defeated Kuma in that sense.
if defeat means zoro beat kuma's ass then clearly no lol.
In general, in a battle manga, defeat = beat someone's ass but you can still defeat someone in other ways.
here kuma's goal was to capture luffy and zoro's goal was to save luffy. Therefore Zoro, by saving Luffy defeated Kuma in that sense.
How did zoro come out victorious what did Kim’s lose
Kim’s was never taking luffy he is luffy’s dad lackey
Zoro proposed the idea and a lackey of luffy is not his problem as far as he does not harm luffy directly and if luffy won’t have did why would zoro die from taking his pain
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Kim’s was never taking luffy he is luffy’s dad lackey
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Zoro proposed the idea and a lackey of luffy is not his problem as far as he does not harm luffy directly and if luffy won’t have did why would zoro die from taking his pain
What was that tension for? What would have changed to break that tension in Thriller Bark instead of Sabaody? Moreover, it was not even necessary to break the tension, it could have been done in many ways.
The government doesn't know what happened at Thriller Bark, so there's no point in what you're saying.
But your theory holds up to this point:
There your excuse makes no sense, that attack is too devastating to be a mere test.
If we focus on Zoro, it being just a test makes sense so far:
From this point, what you propose is already unjustifiable.
And after this, I think no one with half a brain should doubt how seriously Kuma took it.
You can see how Kuma already had Luffy in his grasp, if it hadn't been for Zoro appearing out of nowhere, he would have taken him.
The government doesn't know what happened at Thriller Bark, so there's no point in what you're saying.
But your theory holds up to this point:
There your excuse makes no sense, that attack is too devastating to be a mere test.
If we focus on Zoro, it being just a test makes sense so far:
From this point, what you propose is already unjustifiable.
And after this, I think no one with half a brain should doubt how seriously Kuma took it.
You can see how Kuma already had Luffy in his grasp, if it hadn't been for Zoro appearing out of nowhere, he would have taken him.
I was wrong Zoro Bros definition of defeat suits my agenda more
So I agree Zoro defeated Kuma
Luffy defeated Aokiji, Fujitora, Sengoku (they couldn't get what they want)
Rayleigh defeated Kizaru (he couldn't capture SH)
Shanks defeated Marines + Warlord (he threatenned everyone to stop the war and they did)
Luffy defeated BM twice (first one for FI)
Vista defeated Mihawk
Daz bones and Crocodile defeated Mihawk too (they all prevent him to capture Luffy)
Even Jozu did
So I agree Zoro defeated Kuma
Luffy defeated Aokiji, Fujitora, Sengoku (they couldn't get what they want)
Rayleigh defeated Kizaru (he couldn't capture SH)
Shanks defeated Marines + Warlord (he threatenned everyone to stop the war and they did)
Luffy defeated BM twice (first one for FI)
Vista defeated Mihawk
Daz bones and Crocodile defeated Mihawk too (they all prevent him to capture Luffy)
Even Jozu did
