Questions & Mysteries Explain Luffy powerscale by Luffytads

Rmstorm

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Santoryu D Bazooka said:
I am sorry but they do not say Physical Strength at all. They said "Strengthens their Rubbery Body". Strengthens their >> Rubbery << body. Which means that his Rubber Ability has upgraded. It could imply that his Physical Strength has upgraded but their wording is >> Rubbery Body <<. And lastly for Luffy it doesn't matter how if he gains Physical Strength because his ability allows him to bypass that anyways which is why Zoro trains with weights and Luffy does not.

If you have actually read my reply carefully you would have actually seen that i was saying Luffy's ability ignores Physical Strength entirely. But meh lol.
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Luffy has a zoan devil fruit meaning, his Awakening increases his physical stength, durability and endurance
 
LANJI CUCKSMOKE

LANJI CUCKSMOKE

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#62
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thought luffy was around what I would consider an emperor around 1037
but a rather weak one
that is when kaido admitted he could go toe to toe with him
1010 is far too early .



post awakening , I dont even think he has scratched the surface with g5 yet
its still a new powerup ,and one I think has now put him in a much higher position amongst emperors
am sure you can understand these emperors arent exactly equal
and kaido is evidently the strongest one in the story .
 
Santoryu D Bazooka

Santoryu D Bazooka

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#63
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Rmstorm said:
Luffy has a zoan devil fruit meaning, his Awakening increases his physical stength, durability and endurance
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Sure no one is denying that but overall it means nothing because it does not change anything in his original form its still his ability his gear 5. Him making that huge punch isn't related to his Physical Strength its his ability that allows him to be.

Take Sanji for example. His DNA upgrade is for all we know is a permanent buff which means his Physical Strength has upgraded its not an ability unlike Luffy.
 
Sugoi

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Herrera95 said:
Don't hide yourself Luffytard. Is time to explain your unrealistic power scale towards your boy King of hundred defeats Luffy.

How came Luffy being Yonko Level on pair with Kaido on 1010 then again at 1026 then again at 1044 with all those power ups and food supply.
Or if he was Kaido level at 1010 how you explain him getting defeated at 1013 and coming back stronger than Kaido( by your narrative) then losing again on 1043 and coming back even stronger just to have a extreme diff fight against Kaido?
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simple, he wasnt stronger than kaido before, so he lost. Later on he was equal with kaido, and lost because blue scarfs inteference. Gear 5 is stronger than kaido so he won
 
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Herrera95

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King of the world said:
The conclusion of "I can fight a bit longer is figure of speech" is your headcanon.
Then nothing say he is 100 %.
Nothing say he was healing to 100 % after his awakening.
After coming back from dead he can fight a bit longer because of his awakening. :goyea:
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Nothing says otherwise too. Headcanon of yours.
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Sugoi said:
simple, he wasnt stronger than kaido before, so he lost. Later on he was equal with kaido, and lost because blue scarfs inteference. Gear 5 is stronger than kaido so he won
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"Lost because blue scarfs interference" like the same attack would be enough to knock out Kaido after everything he tanked from G5 which by your words is stronger than Kaido.

How G5 stronger and still Kaido overcame it many times?
 
blackjack

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If you guys think about if for a bit Kaido is like Doflamingo 2.0

Doflamingo Fans: Luffy got lucky because Law gamma knifed injuring DD's heart thats why he won
Kaido Fans: Luffy got lucky because the scabbard 9 and worst gen pirates did damage to him previously.

Doflamingo Fans: Luffy got lucky because instead of DD dodging, he took his G4 fist head on with his 16 holy bullet strings.
Kaido Fans: Luffy got lucky because instead of Kaido dodging he took his G5 fist head on with his dragon flame torch mode.
 
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Herrera95

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blackjack said:
If you guys think about if for a bit Kaido is like Doflamingo 2.0

Doflamingo Fans: Luffy got lucky because Law gamma knifed injuring DD's heart thats why he won
Kaido Fans: Luffy got lucky because the scabbard 9 and worst gen pirates did damage to him previously.

Doflamingo Fans: Luffy got lucky because instead of DD dodging, he took his G4 fist head on with his 16 holy bullet strings.
Kaido Fans: Luffy got lucky because instead of Kaido dodging he took his G5 fist head on with his dragon flame torch mode.
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Disagree about Doflamingo, but against Kaido he fought a nerfed Kaido and needed too much plot armor and asspulling to beat him.
 
Kiiro

Kiiro

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#70
Luffy didnt came as strong as Kaido since 1010. Luffy right now has the power for sure, after this fight he can be a solid Yonkou tier, so he wont lose without an extreme diff battle.

But at 1010, with advancent CoA and CoO, he was a clear admiral tier, with his awakenng and adanced CoC, he is Emperor tier.

Luffy lost againt Kaido since he still had to upgrade a new tier and it took 2 more PU to gain that tier.
 
Monkey D Theories

Monkey D Theories

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Herrera95 said:
So Roger can only beat nerfed Kaido?
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bajrang gun, the only serious move Luffy used in G5, 1 shot kaido.
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Oda is setting up the SHs to be a yonko level crew post wano. Just look at Zoro. He is just a right hand and yet he has ACoC. Apart from Rayleigh and Oden, there are no other right hands who are even hinted to have ACoC.

If we can all admit that Zoro is above YC1 level and near Rayleigh, idk why its so hard to admit Luffy is near roger and above kaido.
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Kaido is the WSC. Bajrang gun not only surpassed kaido's ultimate move, it smashes him so hard into the earth that he reached magma.

How the fuck is any other top tier supposed to be stronger than Luffy?
 
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Herrera95

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Monkey D Theories said:
bajrang gun, the only serious move Luffy used in G5, 1 shot kaido.
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Oda is setting up the SHs to be a yonko level crew post wano. Just look at Zoro. He is just a right hand and yet he has ACoC. Apart from Rayleigh and Oden, there are no other right hands who are even hinted to have ACoC.

If we can all admit that Zoro is above YC1 level and near Rayleigh, idk why its so hard to admit Luffy is near roger and above kaido.
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Kaido is the WSC. Bajrang gun not only surpassed kaido's ultimate move, it smashes him so hard into the earth that he reached magma.

How the fuck is any other top tier supposed to be stronger than Luffy?
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"Only serious move" holy shit... Luffy even lost his G5 once and had to reactivate it. But for sure he wasn't serious at all.
What about Kaido not being serious until G5? Then all times Luffy lost were actually no-shotted KO?

So you don't consider Katakuri as right hand?
Rocks crew had a bunch of CoC users. At least 3 confirmed till now, BM, Kaido and WB.
Ace as 2nd commander of WB also had CoC.

Zoro beated fresh King while being nerfed by Enma. Luffy beated nerfed Kaido while being powered up all the time. Zoro is above YC1 level without doubt. Luffy being near Roger and above Kaido is very questionable.

Again, Luffy beated nerfed Kaido. He isn't even stronger than Kaido.
 
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Herrera95

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King of the world said:
King isn't fresh. He fight Marco before.



And King nerfed his def and just in base when Zoro's attack defeated him.

Dinosuar form defence > Base defence > Nerfed base defence.

Zoro just defeated a nerfed def YC1.




Can doubt that Zoro can defeated King if King didn't nerfed his def. Before his sword will suck his life.
Especially when King is in his Dinosuar form.
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Marco didn't made King bleed. At best he helped to tire his stamina so when he fought Zoro his "flames on" timelimit was already lowered.
All relevants attacks King took were from Zoro. Queen is the same with Sanji.

I agree that Zoro didn't defeated Flames On King or Dinosaur King.
 
Monkey D Theories

Monkey D Theories

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Herrera95 said:
"Only serious move" holy shit... Luffy even lost his G5 once and had to reactivate it. But for sure he wasn't serious at all.
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Have you even read the manga? Luffy hadn't even used G5 with haki at the point when he lost G5. He was using dumbass attacks like this:

God forgive me if I don't consider this fighting seriously. Even after he showed some nameless ACoC+G5 punches, he was still fucking around. Kaido even said so.

Bajrang gun was Luffy's only serious named attack in G5.
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Herrera95 said:
Zoro beated fresh King while being nerfed by Enma. Luffy beated nerfed Kaido while being powered up all the time. Zoro is above YC1 level without doubt. Luffy being near Roger and above Kaido is very questionable.

Again, Luffy beated nerfed Kaido. He isn't even stronger than Kaido.
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Luffy's strongest attack>>Kaido's strongest attack

Luffy>Kaido
Herrera95 said:
So you don't consider Katakuri as right hand?
Rocks crew had a bunch of CoC users. At least 3 confirmed till now, BM, Kaido and WB.
Ace as 2nd commander of WB also had CoC.
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I said ACoC. Zoro is the only one, apart from Oden, who is a confirmed ACoC user.
 
sanjikun

sanjikun

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Herrera95 said:
Don't hide yourself Luffytard. Is time to explain your unrealistic power scale towards your boy King of hundred defeats Luffy.

How came Luffy being Yonko Level on pair with Kaido on 1010 then again at 1026 then again at 1044 with all those power ups and food supply.
Or if he was Kaido level at 1010 how you explain him getting defeated at 1013 and coming back stronger than Kaido( by your narrative) then losing again on 1043 and coming back even stronger just to have a extreme diff fight against Kaido?
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Luffy was not "Kaido level" until awakening. Kaido is the WSC. He reached Yonko level, which is sky splitter level with ACoC.

The disparity between 1010 and 1026 or whatever was explained by Kaido. He was using "ACoC" sloppily, messed up the technique and got clobbered.
 
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Herrera95

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#79
sanjikun said:
Luffy was not "Kaido level" until awakening. Kaido is the WSC. He reached Yonko level, which is sky splitter level with ACoC.

The disparity between 1010 and 1026 or whatever was explained by Kaido. He was using "ACoC" sloppily, messed up the technique and got clobbered.
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He never said his ACoC was sloopy. His ACoC didn't changed until G5.
He sky splitted at 1026.
Your explanation doesn't make sense.

Roger and WB never sky splitted each other.
 
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