Powers & Abilities So does everyone agree Enma not a power up now.

kurohime

kurohime

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nik87 said:
Not sure if it will be as much fun for you as much it will be for us. :catpole:
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You sure? I'm in a win win situation...

Zoro gets Stronger with Enma=get strength development with putting him on par with a YC 1 after a difficult fight.

Zoro was already strong enough without Enma = Zoro is a YC+1 fighter that simply got even stronger with some form of haki training

I win either way. Zorotards are the only ones seeming an unfavorable situation here.... That Zoro needs Enema to remain relevant this arc.... Not realizing it doesn't matter in the long run because in the long run he's going to be Yonkonlevel in 2-3 arcs.
 
nik87

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
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Baluzi

Baluzi

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It's not a straight up power up, temporary PU at max perhaps. It's not like G2/3/4, Asura or RS/DJ which factually would increase your power over base.

Simply put, Did it force Zoro to get better and have more mastery over his skill and haki? Yes.

Does that mean he can't do what he does with Enma with other blade of similar or higher grade? No.

In the longer run it'd be just another blade of three in Zoro's arsenal and this takes nothing off Zoro, it just means he's an incredibly skilled swordsman. For now this very moment, it's a catalyst to Zoro increasing his base power. Thus kinda a power up for this arc because if it wasn't for Enma, Zoro wouldn't have found that excitement/motivation he got when he wanted to tame Enma for real.
 
kurohime

kurohime

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Sword God Ryuma said:
No its not that it changes that much. Its that the Sword would nerf him. Even if its 1%. He is still Nerf and would lose to Shisui Zoro.
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Nerfed by change 1 of 3 swords, even at 1% is a joke. Imagine Mihawk weakening because he fights with Enma instead of Yoru lol what a joke.

I guess Zoro is a failed swordsman for sure. He needs a particular sword to not be nerfed... hilarious
 
M944

M944

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ImmaIvanoM said:
Where are you getting that Enma gives Zoro an AP boost? The only thing Enma is stated to do is use too much of the energy Zoro already has.

Are you saying Zoro couldn't cut that cliff if he wanted to?
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I never said he couldn't cut that cliff. However once again the staging doesn't let any doubt. Zoro's AP has increased.

I dont think SH needs to be astonnished about that cliff if zoro hasn't earned any up.

Zowo said:
wrong
shishi sonson against hody with sandai
yakkadori against hody with sandai
daishinkan with shusui against monet
and shishi sonson with shusui against the dragon
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Ittoryu with Shusui ? I dont talk about Ittoryu with other swords.
The first ittoryu with Shusui was against Monet.

Sword God Ryuma said:
never said Enma doesn't train him. Im talking about Zoro right now after the training picks up Shisui he the same. My point is Zoro does not lose anything if he use Shisui. Sanji doesn't.
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Headcannon.
if it's a PowerUp he lose something.

Cyrus the Cactus said:
Both with Haki. The first didn't fuck up Zoro's arm - because he was intending to cut the golem (most likely). The second drained Zoro's arm most likely because of the disparity between the Haki Zoro intended to use and the Haki Enma drained.
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After the first one Zoro was sweating remember.
In the second one he wasn't even trying but he achieve to.
Moreover the second one was with One sword.
They have a lot of factor to take in account.
 
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