Powers & Abilities So does everyone agree Enma not a power up now.

Not that I disagree with the overall point of your post.

But Zoro with Shisui pre-training >> Zoro with Enma pre-training, in a fight.

Not being able to control his attacks & dealing with the haki strain is simply too much of a nerf to face against a Zoro who can dish out w.e attack he wants without any strain.

Zoro with Enma after training =/< Zoro with Shisui after training, I agree with tho.
Yeai guess, because he nerfing himself in an intense fight. So you dhould be right Shisui would beat him pre powerup
 
Yeai guess, because he nerfing himself in an intense fight. So you dhould be right Shisui would beat him pre powerup
Right, I mean this is what happened to his arm just from a simple slash, if he does any named attack with 3 swords, I can't even imagine what would happen to his body or both of his arms.



Then he has to concentrate on bringing his haki back and what not, which is just too much time wasted in a 1v1.

Add on top of that it drains out his stamina, while Zoro with Shusui throws mountain busters without any stamina strain


Pre-training Enma Zoro doesn't even pose a threat to pre-training Shusui Zoro. :ronalugh:
 
Right, I mean this is what happened to his arm just from a simple slash, if he does any named attack with 3 swords, I can't even imagine what would happen to his body or both of his arms.



Then he has to concentrate on bringing his haki back and what not, which is just too much time wasted in a 1v1.

Add on top of that it drains out his stamina, while Zoro with Shusui throws mountain busters without any stamina strain


Pre-training Enma Zoro doesn't even pose a threat to pre-training Shusui Zoro. :ronalugh:
You make great points. So Enma Pre training couldn't even beat Shisui Zoro. 🤣🤣 but but power up
 
Zoro with Shusui is clearly superior to Zoro with Enma as it stands. Not even debatable. Unless something about Enma will happen, which I frankly doubt. But it's Oda and you are never too sure.
Zoro already said he was going to get stronger with Enma... the SECOND he uses something he got with Enma that he couldn't have done with Shunsui... Good Game.

Why that is so hard to understand is ridiculous
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
Zoro already said he was going to get stronger with Enma... the SECOND he uses something he got with Enma that he couldn't have done with Shunsui... Good Game.

Why that is so hard to understand is ridiculous
You clearly misunderstood what he wanted to say.

He was clearly saying that the Enma training would have made him stronger, not the sword itself.

Enma doesn't have more AP than Shusui per se, but contrarily.
 
You clearly misunderstood what he wanted to say.

He was clearly saying that the Enma training would have made him stronger, not the sword itself.

Enma doesn't have more AP than Shusui per se, but contrarily.
His next fight is going to be very fun for you lol can't wait.

It's so glaring for those of us who aren't diehard Zoro fans. Your far to close to this to understand what is going on...
 
Because there is nothing to address.
So basically you just come here to talk out your ass. Got it and Zoro doing new techniques doesn't mean he can't do it with other swords. Zoro does the same techniques with Zoro its just more potent woth better swords. He can even do dragon twister with no swords or refer to Arlong park when he had two fodder swords and did techniques with them. You seem like the one who has no clue what he is talking about.
 
So basically you just come here to talk out your ass. Got it and Zoro doing new techniques doesn't mean he can't do it with other swords. Zoro does the same techniques with Zoro its just more potent woth better swords. He can even do dragon twister with no swords or refer to Arlong park when he had two fodder swords and did techniques with them. You seem like the one who has no clue what he is talking about.
But it's taking Enma to SPECIFICALLY unlock whatever he learned... and then he could take whatever he learned and utilize it with other sswords.his new techniques or haki utilization isnt tied to Enma only.

And yes, I will just come her and comment because no one knows for sure until we actually see Zoro in action...
 
But it's taking Enma to SPECIFICALLY unlock whatever he learned... and then he could take whatever he learned and utilize it with other sswords.his new techniques or haki utilization isnt tied to Enma only.

And yes, I will just come her and comment because no one knows for sure until we actually see Zoro in action...
Zoro never said he taking Enma to unlock anything. Only that he will be stronger by mastering/training with it. Zoro does the same techniques with any Sword. Zoro literally does not care about those Swprds has much has Wado. He would give up Enma tommorow for another Sword if the situation calls for it.

We do know for sure. Lol this isn't the first time this happen. Zoro has gotten stringer swords before. 🤣
 
Zoro never said he taking Enma to unlock anything. Only that he will be stronger by mastering/training with it. Zoro does the same techniques with any Sword. Zoro literally does not care about those Swprds has much has Wado. He would give up Enma tommorow for another Sword if the situation calls for it.

We do know for sure. Lol this isn't the first time this happen. Zoro has gotten stringer swords before. 🤣
Like I said... it gunna be fun watching his next fight lol

Can't wait
 
Right, I mean this is what happened to his arm just from a simple slash, if he does any named attack with 3 swords, I can't even imagine what would happen to his body or both of his arms.



Then he has to concentrate on bringing his haki back and what not, which is just too much time wasted in a 1v1.

Add on top of that it drains out his stamina, while Zoro with Shusui throws mountain busters without any stamina strain


Pre-training Enma Zoro doesn't even pose a threat to pre-training Shusui Zoro. :ronalugh:
It's the noodle arm that gets me.

I don't see how someone can look at what a simple attack does to Zoro's arm and think "yes, this has clearly made Zoro much stronger." He'd be useless in a fight with it.

Enma=Shusui, but Enma has given Zoro the means to improve his Haki.
 
He changed swords because he had too, both of his sword broke in the fight between Mihawk and he replaced them in Logue town. He replaced yubashiri because it was broken, he replaced shuisui because the hiyori wanted it back since it's a national treasure, he was offered Enma in exchange for it. You see what I'm getting at? He didn't change swords because he needed a power up, he did it cause he had no choice.
Haha are you serious? Everytime when he changed his new sword was better than ex. I dont care how he changed. He changed bec he was weak.
 
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